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Help me before I strangle him!!

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm just kidding about the title....I hope.
My neutered male cat is very vocal and capable of being VERY loud. he will frequently sit in one specific window and yowl loudly and repeatedly over and over, also pawing at the window glass, sometimes going as far as rearing up on his hind legs to do it with both front paws. usually he does this until i lose my temper and I yell at him, or rush over there etc.... then he'll be back doing it again a few minutes later. he vocalizes for no reason on other occasions too, but it is at its worst when he is sitting in this one specific window. I have never had a cat this vocal before. it doesn't seem to be related to any kind of discomfort (though he often stares at me when he does it). the best I can figure is that when he's in the window he wants to go outside, which is not an option when he isn't on his harness. Sometimes there is activity outside the window, nieghboors or other cats, but usually when he does it there is nothing specific outside to even capture his interest. in the other instances I assume he wants to be fed or just wants attention. While I spend a lot of time with both of my cats I can't realistically devote every second of the day to indulging his every whim.

lately it has been getting even worse, I work night shift and his incessant howling is depriving me of sleep now (i can't just get earplugs because I need to be able to hear my alarm). it is getting to the point where it is making me VERY angry that he won't just shut up. he'll be fine for hours sometime, and sleep on the bed with me, or somewhere else, then suddenly it's like he says "ok gotta go be annoying now" and he heads down to the window.
He also has an aggression problem and launches unprovoked attacks on his sister (who although easily big enough to defend herself, is very meek. whatever defense she does put up, goes ignored and he often corners her and presses his attack anyway seemingly disregarding the possibility of being injured himself.) he bites me fairly often as well.
he is already on amitriyptaline as part of a treatment for a urinary problem that might be partly anxiety-based (feline idiopathic cystitis was a term that was mentioned). all these behaviors were present prior to the medication. although his urinary problem is better (i monitor his litter box usage) his other behavior is the same as before. loud, aggressive, sometimes destructive, and attention-seeking. because of the layout of my apartment i don't even have a separate room i can put him in during the day, and i suspect he'd yowl and tear at the door all day anyway (he tore his front claws nearly down to the quick trying to rip his way out of his carrier during a vet trip)
is there anything i can do here? I love him but he is becoming incredibly hard to live with and it's causing me to go to work exhausted some nights as well.
post #2 of 15
are you in a position to get another cat? he might do better if he had a companion...
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Based on the way he treats his sister already i suspect a third cat would only exacerbate the situation
post #4 of 15
I've never used Feliway, but some people swear by it.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by Kazanlak View Post
Based on the way he treats his sister already i suspect a third cat would only exacerbate the situation
sorry, didn't realize you already had 2 - i thought he was an only cat.
feliway diffusers might help, as might rescue remedy.
post #6 of 15
When my kitty is being obnoxious, it's because she wants us to play with her. You might try distracting the yowling and such by having a wild play time with an interactive toy like Da Bird. (DaBird is da bomb in our house!) If you can do this right before bedtime and then follow it up with a nice meal of canned food, you might get him to sleep through the night.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've already got Feliway diffusers both upstairs and down, dunno if they help or not as his behavior is the same as always.

it's difficult for me to just play with him or feed him every time he gets wound up and loud as he usually does it WHILE i'm trying to sleep or at other totally inoppurtune moments. they are on a somewhat set canned food schedule but have access to dry all day (i've also sometimes noticed him repeatedly going back to his food bowl and eating over and over again in a short space of time, boredom or stress induced eating perhaps?)i have a hard enough time sleeping during the day as it is and his whining and chasing his sister all over the apartment makes it even harder. He seems to be getting progressively more obnoxious and demanding.
I think at the heart of it is that he wants to be an outdoor cat, but I can't let that happen, where I live there is a major roadway nearby, as well as coyotes, and people who reportedly trap cats for use as bait. he's shown me he's a tough little guy but he's not invincible.
post #8 of 15
Suspect that if you invest in a good black light and shine it outside your window at midnight, you will see the source of his angst. Lots of outside cats will visit homes where cats are inside and spray around the outside of the house causing the alpha cat (inside) to go a bit crazy. Cleaning that up with a good effective enzyme remover may alleviate the problem.

If your cat is part Siamese, they are vocal critters indeed and so suggest you buy earplugs.

Another alternative is to provide him a safe way to be outdoors-either with an attached cat enclosure or something along the lines of these products

http://www.meowhoo.com/Basic_Pet_Sup...ges/index.html


It doesn't even have to be elaborate. We initially screen off a section of our porch with lattice (such as you find in rose gardens) and chicken wire. Only when we started accumulating a large number of cats did we resort to an outside enclosure to accomodate our clowder.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by hissy View Post
Suspect that if you invest in a good black light and shine it outside your window at midnight, you will see the source of his angst. Lots of outside cats will visit homes where cats are inside and spray around the outside of the house causing the alpha cat (inside) to go a bit crazy. Cleaning that up with a good effective enzyme remover may alleviate the problem.

If your cat is part Siamese, they are vocal critters indeed and so suggest you buy earplugs.

Another alternative is to provide him a safe way to be outdoors-either with an attached cat enclosure or something along the lines of these products

http://www.meowhoo.com/Basic_Pet_Sup...ges/index.html


It doesn't even have to be elaborate. We initially screen off a section of our porch with lattice (such as you find in rose gardens) and chicken wire. Only when we started accumulating a large number of cats did we resort to an outside enclosure to accomodate our clowder.
ha ha i'm not sure what his pedigree is, he's a big (about 13 pounds) and long legged cat with large ears and a loud and often guttural voice. His sister is also big but isn't quite as rangy (and a bit chubby actually) and her ears are average sized.
here he is

the other cats spraying outside is a good point.....this apartment complex is FULL of cats that do go outside, as well as a couple strays and i've sometimes noticed the odor of cat urine outside the door before now that you bring it up. he has a major alpha streak. when being walked on his leash and harness i've had to really restrain him a few times to prevent him from attacking other cats.
I do like the outdoor enclosure idea if i didn't live in an apartment complex and had a yard or anywhere to put it i'd have already bought or made one a while ago. I think he'd enjoy it.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Kazanlak View Post
I do like the outdoor enclosure idea if i didn't live in an apartment complex and had a yard or anywhere to put it i'd have already bought or made one a while ago. I think he'd enjoy it.
Does your apartment have a balcony, or a window with a wide ledge?
post #11 of 15
It might be worth a try to remove the tree from before the window and see if he settles a bit. I love the idea of a black light to find the source of his angst and clean up to see if that can simmer things down. How long has it been happening? I know that my cats get spring fever also.

I fostered a cat that was MISERABLE inside. She got adopted by people who owned a farm and was quite happy as their resident mouser for the barn. I believe some cats have very strong instincts and need to be out to be truly content. Doesn't happen often but does happen.
post #12 of 15
lately it has been getting even worse, I work night shift and his incessant howling is depriving me of sleep now (i can't just get earplugs because I need to be able to hear my alarm).

I'm a very light sleeper and have used earplugs for years and I can still hear the phone, clock alarm, fire alarm, etc.
post #13 of 15
I have a siamese that does this. He didn't used to. He has a deep inner ear infection that caused his ear drum to burst we are still fighting the infection so the vet is thinking that his is still in some discomfort and that's the reason he's still yowling. I've resorted to putting him in a room at night, sometimes with his little buddy Chasca and sometimes without. I put a rug in the crack under the door, go in my bedroom close the door and put another rug under that crack AND I use earplugs. I don't hear him but I still do hear the alarm in the morning.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by fifi1puss View Post
It might be worth a try to remove the tree from before the window and see if he settles a bit. I love the idea of a black light to find the source of his angst and clean up to see if that can simmer things down. How long has it been happening? I know that my cats get spring fever also.

I fostered a cat that was MISERABLE inside. She got adopted by people who owned a farm and was quite happy as their resident mouser for the barn. I believe some cats have very strong instincts and need to be out to be truly content. Doesn't happen often but does happen.

That actually isn't the window he yowls in. it's a different one upstairs. this behavior only manifests itself in one downstairs window.
This has been going on for months. I think it just stems from a desire to be outdoors mostly, we spent over an hour outside today with him on his harness, he had a good time. Now however he's agitated agin and wants to go back out. with my work schedule I can't spend all day outside and I won't let him out by himself.
I really with I had somewhere to put one of those outside enclosures but I don't, and to tell you the truth he'd eventually most likely end up getting angry he was confined there as well.
His behavior is the most like that of a spoiled human toddler i've ever seen in a cat.
post #15 of 15
one thought, dunno if it would work...

If its only that one window, can you try blocking it off (covering it with cardboard or something) and see what his reaction is? (i'm sure you'll know pretty fast if it infuriates him....)
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