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Obama Moves To Legalize Warrantless Wiretapping

post #1 of 10
4/8/09 at 8:54pm
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This is actually from MSNBC, from Countdown with Keith Obermann. In case you live under a rock Obermann has been strongly opposed to all things Bush and campaigned tirelessly for Obama. So hearing his perspective, as well as the notoriously pro-Obama commentators of MSNBC, is interesting to say the least.

I have to say that as a Fox News viewer...I didn't see this story. I don't think it was widely covered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jSUHVUgJFc
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post #2 of 10
4/8/09 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
This is actually from MSNBC, from Countdown with Keith Obermann. In case you live under a rock Obermann has been strongly opposed to all things Bush and campaigned tirelessly for Obama. So hearing his perspective, as well as the notoriously pro-Obama commentators of MSNBC, is interesting to say the least.

I have to say that as a Fox News viewer...I didn't see this story. I don't think it was widely covered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jSUHVUgJFc
Now there is someone I can agree with! Bad is bad, no matter who does it.
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post #3 of 10
4/8/09 at 9:11pm
Our rights mean nothing to anyone in Washington.

Warrantless wiretapping. A turd is a turd no matter how it is dressed.

When it comes it issues like this we, the people, should be able to take the government to court to keep them in their place. It's a travesty that we can't.

Can we start over?
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post #4 of 10
4/8/09 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
Our rights mean nothing to anyone in Washington.

Warrantless wiretapping. A turd is a turd no matter how it is dressed.

When it comes it issues like this we, the people, should be able to take the government to court to keep them in their place. It's a travesty that we can't.

Can we start over?

But who would we vote for?? Ron Paul
The liberals are beginning to call the President "Obamabush"
As Benjamin Franklin put it, those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for the sake of security deserve neither
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post #5 of 10
4/9/09 at 12:35am
I find the stipulation about the government only being liable for public disclosure of information obtained through the wiretaps to be very concerning. That sounds like something that could be used to prevent someone from getting a public trial. Or more of that "we have conclusive evidence, but we can't let you hear it for liability reasons".

Talk about Double Top-Secret Probation.
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post #6 of 10
4/9/09 at 10:17am
This is what Barack said about a year ago when campaigning for President.
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Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me
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For one thing, under an Obama presidency, Americans will be able to leave behind the era of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and "wiretaps without warrants," he said. (He was referring to the lingering legal fallout over reports that the National Security Agency scooped up Americans' phone and Internet activities without court orders, ostensibly to monitor terrorist plots, in the years after the September 11 attacks.)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

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The Obama Justice Department has adopted a legal stance identical to, if not more aggressive than, the Bush version. It argues that the court-forced disclosure of the surveillance programs would cause "exceptional harm to national security" by exposing intelligence sources and methods
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638765474658467.html
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post #7 of 10
4/9/09 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
This is what Barack said about a year ago when campaigning for President.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638765474658467.html
The articles are good, but the WSJ claims that the liberals are being silent on this......don't know what media they're NOT reading, because the public outcry has been loud and clear, esp. from the left
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post #8 of 10
4/9/09 at 7:04pm
This makes me very upset. I am starting to think that he really might be a socialist, I've been trying to say the opposite all this time, but no not for this, this really is a socialist move... Wow....
The constitutional law professor was great I agree with him 100%.
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post #9 of 10
4/9/09 at 8:48pm
Wasn't this something the Dems criticized Bush for? And now Obama want to expand exactly what he claimed he wanted to "change?" I'm confused.
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post #10 of 10
4/9/09 at 9:21pm
Well, I've read what news articles I could find on this subject, and I'll admit, I skipped the hatchet-job blogs, and can't find anything about Obama legalizing warrantless wiretapping. His stance simply appears to be to prevent release of classified material in lawsuits against the Bush administration for the wiretapping that has already been done and over with.

So what's wrong with that? I don't think Bush should be subjected to lawsuits for executive decisions either.
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