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post #31 of 53
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When I got Levi & Jordan one of the vet techs was supprised I was not going to declaw them. The vet looked at her & said something like she works with a rescue group she would never want to declaw. She was my regular vet at the time & knew about how I felt about declawing and never even asked. When I got Isaac, I had to have him checked in for his neuter by one of the other vets. Not only did that vet ask, but he was kind of pushing it, and said well if it ever becomes a problem. I simply said, "It's not a problem with the other 2 cats I have it won't be a problem with this cat." Needless to say I refuse to have any of my cats see that vet. When I got Maggie, I had a differnt vet & I'm sure she never asked either. I guess I just forget what it's like to have a cat without claws, and it only occurs to me now when someone else talks about declawing their cat. As someone else said, cat's just come with claws, now that I'm educated about declawing I just think of it as a fact.
post #32 of 53
After joining this site. Growing up, our cats were front declawed, my friends' cats were all front declawed, and somehow in my mind it became paired with spay/neuter as something that responsible pet owners do. I had my first two cats declawed; one became quite mouthy, but that was the only long-term issue I experienced (thank goodness).

Of my current cats, Griffin and Bastian have kept and will keep their claws (even though they occasionally scratch in some inappropriate places); Sprout came to us already 4-paw declawed. Being a Sphynx with no hair on his feet, you can really see how it changes the toes. We call him "mush foot". Thankfully it doesn't seem to bother him much.

I owe a huge debt of gratitude to this site for educating me on this topic. I feel so guilty about the cats I declawed in the past; at least now, any cats I have in the future will not have to suffer through that.
post #33 of 53
I didn't know it even existed until my family rescued a 4-paw declawed cat when I was a teenager. He was an emotional mess, and his little feet looked like they had been mutilated. The good news was he got to be a "normal" cat at our house and came around. He had been abused and who knows what else before we got him. That was when I decided I hated the procedure...He couldn't even scratch behind his ear if it itched. I couldn't imagine spending your whole life that way.

Of the cats I've had since moving away from home, 3 have been declawed by previous owners. Before it was never really an issue. But last year we had an apartment with steep stairs for a year, then Nabu developed arthritis and has had balance issues since moving to our house (which thankfully is 1 story). The difference is, Lola climbs the cat tree like Spiderman, but Nabu can't catch himself when he slips. We thought he broke his leg about a month ago now. He dislocated his front leg and couldn't bear weight when we woke up one morning. I attribute that to being declawed and not being able to catch himself if he falls. We don't know if his arthritis is due to the declaw, but the x-rays showed he has more than what is normal for his age.

When we took Lola for her spay, they did not push the declaw at all. I was just given info when we were given the paperwork for her spay. If anything I was pushy about making sure she did not get declawed. I have heard stories of cats accidentally getting declawed. I feel sad that Nabu and Stimpy don't get to climb like Spiderman the way Lola does. Cause it sure looks fun.
post #34 of 53
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I feel sad that Nabu and Stimpy don't get to climb like Spiderman the way Lola does. Cause it sure looks fun.
Looking back at my childhood cats I feel sorry for them too. My guys are good at climbing the cat tree, and it really does look like they are thrilled to death to be able to climb.
post #35 of 53
I think I knew what declawing was, but I never gave it a second thought because growing up, all our cats had all their claws (and they were indoor/outdoor, but that's another topic ) I honestly do not think I have ever been around a declawed cat, but I remember thinking that it was wrong because cats have claws, if you don't want to deal with them then get a stuffed animal
post #36 of 53
Growing up my parents always de-clawed to protect the furniture. I don't even think we had scratching post either.

It wasn't until I came here after de-clawing Simon, Trouble and Max that I realized just what I was doing to my cats. Sampson, Vanna, Tigger, Pooh, Mocha, Mia and my Bengal boys all have their claws.

I can tell you all three have issues of some sort another too.

Simon hates litter! He will only go outside in the sand. If he just can't hold it to go outside it's the bathtub every time!

Trouble is a nasty biter. She hates for any cat to walk near her and will immediately go on the defense. Great litter box habits.

Max is absolutely perfect with attitude and litter box habits. But my beautiful boy has the most deformed Tootsies you have ever seen. As he gets older the more he walks on the back of his feet past the pads. It looks like he has really long feet.

Of the three he just breaks my heart knowing I did that to him. My cats
were de-clawed by three different vets in three different states and all of them offered the de-claw with the spay.

I will NEVER do that to any cat again.
post #37 of 53
My parents never declawed any of their cats, so I grew up being scratched & still am being scratched! Not on purpose.. things just happen. I keep their nails trimmed the majority of the time.

I have quite a few scars on my hands/arms from cats over the many, many years.. "well this one is from so-&-so from this time.." "and this one is from blahblahblah.." "oh and this time, this was so funny! yadda yadda.." You'd think I was showing a scrapbook!
post #38 of 53
We had Polly declawed when she was spayed at about 7 months, the vet suggested it exactly in the "Would you like fries with that?" tone, and my mom and I didn't really know exactly what it entailed. I, too, felt and still feel awful for doing that to her, even though she's almost 15 years old now with no behavior problems. When she came home from surgery though, she wouldn't pee in a litter box of shredded newspaper, so we put a tiny bit of litter in there and she went right away, and of course her paws got infected soon after too, we had to soak them in iodine stuff a few times a day for a week or so. Our other cat Cleo was declawed already when we got her from the shelter, she was a sweetie (i might be able to make a memorial cat page and talk about her in Rainbow Bridge forum someday).

Genever has claws and I delight in telling her to stop scratching the chair and cutting her nails every week or 2 (are they supposed to grow that fast??)

Scary thing is, a few days before we went to the SPCA to look at cats, we noticed in our lease that they have to be declawed!?!? Well BF and I both were against that, but we didn't want to lie either. We were in our bldg. manager's office when the shelter called to make sure it was ok for us to take home Genever (we picked her out the day before), and they must've said something about no declawing, b/c we heard her say "Declawed? Oh yeah, they have to be declawed. ....What? Really?... They cut off the finger? Oh my god that's terrible!...No, no it doesn't have to be declawed then.." So that issue was settled then. Another human educated about the horrors of declawing. When we went to pick up Genever, I thanked the lady at the SPCA for telling the manager about it.

Thinking about it, I should talk to someone and see if they'll change that part of the standard lease, because other people might not question it and just get their cat's hands chopped!
post #39 of 53
Growing up all the cats I knew had claws. Declawing was never mentioned by anyone. The first time I heard about it wasn't until I was in high school.

The first time I met a declawed cat was when I was in my twenties. A co-worker had two Persians that were front declawed. At the time I thought it was odd but the two cats and the co-worker didn't seem too concerned.

All along I had more or less known it was an operation that removed claws. Silly me I thought that since it was done under anesthesia that it was painless.

It wasn't until the subject came up on another board that I was on that I actually read about the procedure and what it actually was. One woman on that board had all her cats four paw declawed. Claimed it was for her health not the cat's. Thought she was such a good person because after all she was saving the poor homeless cat's life.

Now I am so against it I almost cry looking at cats that I know have been declawed for the convenience of the owner and that owner sees nothing wrong with it.

I do however, have lots of sympathy for the people who were talked into it and had no idea what they were doing and now suffer for it themselves.
post #40 of 53
I didn't have any pets except birds and fish until I was 10 (my dad was in the Navy and my mom didn't want the problems of moving with pets). We got 2 kittens in 1989. My mom asked me if I thought they should be de-clawed. She explained that she never really thought de-clawing was a good thing, but if I really wanted "my" kittens de-clawed, she'd go along with it. Now I'm a little appalled that a parent would allow a 10-year-old to make that choice, but my mom always sought my opinion on everything. Although she didn't give me any choice on spaying! She thought 3 kids was quite enough, she didn't want to deal with kittens. Plus we were all very aware (even at that age) of the difficulty of finding GOOD homes for kittens, and the cruelty that comes along with the bad homes.

Fortunately, not knowing anything about the procedure except that my cats wouldn't have claws anymore, I made the right decision. Mainly because I liked to take one kitten (the other one was too shy to go out) to the park on a leash, and I'd let her climb trees, and I didn't want to stop that. Of course, we also didn't know about scratching-post training, and they just shredded our couch. But oh well. It was just a couch. It had Kool-Aid stains and throw-up on it anyway .

As a teen, I really didn't think too much about it. A few friends had de-clawed cats, and I kind of thought it was mean, but had no particular reason for thinking that. Most of them were allowed outside, and I know I thought that was a VERY bad idea.

Then, when I was 17 or so, I suscribed to "The Whole Cat Journal" and they had an article on de-clawing. Wow! I had no idea how AWFUL the procedure is and how many possible side effects there are. From then on I became the "anti-declawing zealot"!

Unfortunately the vets here are very much into the "do you want fries with that" mentality, and I've had to refuse many de-claws. My vet doesn't push, but he will do a de-claw if the owner asks, without trying to educate the owner about the procedure. Most of the cats I know are de-clawed, although I've been able to influence a few friends not to de-claw their cats, which makes me feel great! Unfortuntely, a couple of them have really had to fight their vets about it, which is not something a new cat owner should have to do.

NO cat in my care will EVER be de-clawed, no matter what! And I will continue to try to convince my friends and acquaintances to reconsider de-clawing their cats. Even if it means fighting with their vets.
post #41 of 53
I just figured, "How would I like it if somebody chopped off some part of my body that is important?"

To be honest, if it weren't for the fact that there are too many cats without homes already, I would be against neutering and spaying.
post #42 of 53
I had never really heard of it until Pushkin came into our lives as a little kitten. Then I noticed all these "neuter and declaw" signs at various vets around here, and I just assumed it was something that everyone did these days, so we were going to when we got him neutered.
I so glad I learned about the process!! I would never dream of it now.
I think that's a big reason why so many people do declaw - they just think it's normal, and they don't realise just how invasive the surgery is.
post #43 of 53
I've always known de-clawing was wrong. I tried to talk my sister out of declawing her cats. The more I know, the more adamant I am about it. One of my friends tried to persuade me to declaw my cats. I offered to remove the first joint of all his fingers since he thought it was such a great idea.

My cats are very kneady and affectionate. I do trim their claws ocassionally to reduce my pain.

Angie
post #44 of 53
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I do however, have lots of sympathy for the people who were talked into it and had no idea what they were doing and now suffer for it themselves.
... same here- so here goes another hug to all of you

Christine
post #45 of 53
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I've always been against it, and it wasn't until I came to TCS that I understood the logic behind my emotion.
Same for me. I was always against it because cats should just have claws. Now that I know how awful it is, I'm even more against it.
post #46 of 53
I grew up in a rural area and all of our cats were part-time barn cats, so they needed thier claws. I never really considered declawing untill much later one of my coworkers had her cats declawed to protect her Mother in Law's furniture during the 2 months she stayed with them. Her one cat had major behavior issues afer the surgery,(still does about 4 years later) so I looked it up and was horrified by what I read. I swore never to do it to one of my cats.

I'll admit we wondered if we'd need to remove a claw or two from Freya, since she's a polydactyl, but thankfully we didn't.
post #47 of 53
I took Libby to the vet this morning for her rabies shot, this was her first vet visit with me. (I got her 3 weeks ago). I made an appointment to have her spayed and the vet immediately asked if I wanted her declawed as well.
I was a little disappointed she asked. I declined her offer- of course.
post #48 of 53
My first cat was declawed by the insistence of my parents if I wanted to keep him. I cried when I brought him home and his feet were bandaged and I had to carry him up and down the steps for him to use the litter box.

I think I made up my mind then I would NEVER declaw another cat. I did research about it later and cried and told Mitten I was so sorry I did it to him. He was one of the rare cats that was not affected psychologically or physically with the declaw (he was an adult when done).
post #49 of 53
I was never really okay with declawing...I had a family cat when I was young who seemed constantly unhappy and she was 4 paw declawed. I always as a kid thought that that must be why, (and it might be).

That's not to say I don't own cats that are declawed. Bast has been front paw declawed by her previous owner.

I would never condone it and have actively refused to do it when asked to by people I've lived with, (no cats have habitually torn up anything besides the scratching post in all my experiences, most people are exceedingly paranoid about it though). I'd rather move than ever consider declawing...

Cats are living beings, NOT STUFFED ANIMALS! :P
post #50 of 53
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Here in Germany declawing has always been illegal as it is seen a case of severe animal cruilty and a vet caught doing it would probably face a heavy fine the first time and loose his or her licence if caught repeatedly.
Same thing here in Finland. I've never seen a declawed cat. I was very shocked when I heard that they really do that in USA and that it's legal!
post #51 of 53
To all who were lied to or misinformed by their vets about this "procedure" I am so sorry for you. I think declawing should be made illegal in the US. It is a horrible thing to do to your cat. If you cannot accept the fact that cats come with claws.....GET A FISH!!!! Again this is NOT to the people who did this and now feel regret, but to the people who have or will do this,knowing that it is a mutilation, to save their precious couch or whatever. I had a cat that I fostered once and she was front declawed...it made me so sad to see her feet all flattend out. She never came out to hang with the other cats and if she did come out at all she would bite you as soon as you went near, or hiss like crazy and run when any of the other cats came near. I hate to say it, but when her owners were ready to take her back I was happy to have her go So i guss I never changed my mind about it. Sorry about the long post, but I admit I am a bit fanatic abot decalwing.
post #52 of 53
We have had cats my whole life, my mom got every cat declawed & I just thought that's what you do - UNTIL YESTERDAY...I was PM'ing another cat member about a totally different topic & there was a link in his/her signature about declawing - I have to back track to last Sunday - I watched an episode of Extreme Home Makeover edition & it was about a family that took care of rescued tigers & other kinds of cats (there were other issues on why they were taking care of these animals but I can't remember right now), basically the majority of these poor animals were abused & injured, some of the tigers having been declawed & at the time I didn't understand why they were injured just from being declawed other than maybe the vet did something wrong. Anyways to make a long story short, after seeing that episode, that's what sparked something in my mind to click on that link to find out more about it. Now that I know the details & what's entailed to declawing an animal I will NEVER declaw another cat again.
post #53 of 53
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We have had cats my whole life, my mom got every cat declawed & I just thought that's what you do - UNTIL YESTERDAY...I was PM'ing another cat member about a totally different topic & there was a link in his/her signature about declawing - I have to back track to last Sunday - I watched an episode of Extreme Home Makeover edition & it was about a family that took care of rescued tigers & other kinds of cats (there were other issues on why they were taking care of these animals but I can't remember right now), basically the majority of these poor animals were abused & injured, some of the tigers having been declawed & at the time I didn't understand why they were injured just from being declawed other than maybe the vet did something wrong. Anyways to make a long story short, after seeing that episode, that's what sparked something in my mind to click on that link to find out more about it. Now that I know the details & what's entailed to declawing an animal I will NEVER declaw another cat again.
Thank you for sharing that with us. When I grew up our cats were declawed & just like you I just thought that is what people did. The only cats I knew that weren't declawed were cats that also weren't spayed or neutered. So, like many of you I thought it was standard. I'm so thankful that I have been educated about the truth. Every time I look at my cats paws I'm thankful that they have their claws. I do not regret my decision to let them keep their claws. I just can't imagine them without claws.
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