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Same sex marriage taking hold in New England

post #1 of 19
3/24/09 at 3:25pm
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Numerous New England states have either legalized same-sex marriage or are in the midst of proposals to do so. New Hampshire is also considering the "civil unions for everyone" approach.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ver...ls_gain_in_ne/
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post #2 of 19
3/24/09 at 7:01pm


Good for them. I'm very pleased to read this
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post #3 of 19
3/24/09 at 9:19pm
Awesome!!!!!!!!!
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post #4 of 19
3/25/09 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady View Post


Good for them. I'm very pleased to read this
As am I.
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post #5 of 19
3/25/09 at 9:04pm
I hope it passes there! Here in california (we are like the biggest liberal state!) and we couldnt even get Prop 8 to pass. My first year to vote and I was hoping it would pass. I got really heated when seeing the "false" adds against gay marriage....prop 8 was not about teaching children in schools about homosexuals, it was about legalizing their marriage Ayy Yi yi!! And what is sad is people believed this! . People said it was because of their faith they voted against it... hmmm most these people havent gone to church in like 5 or so years? I think they are just homophobic. Sorry this topic really gets to me.
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post #6 of 19
4/19/09 at 1:08pm
this is awesome!!!!!!
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post #7 of 19
4/19/09 at 4:09pm
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The latest twist is almost funny. Congress has been doing their very best to stay away from the same-sex marriage issue. They are too afraid of losing about half their voting base no matter which way they go on it, so they've just been ignoring it.

Well now, the Washington DC Counsel has voted unanimously to recognize same-sex marriages from other states. The interesting thing about Washington DC is, the US Congress has the final say in decisions governing the District.

DC's counsel has literally hung the issue around Congress' necks. Good for them.

Same-sex marriage rights a step closer in District of Columbia
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post #8 of 19
4/20/09 at 11:04pm
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Originally Posted by JuneBugBear07 View Post
prop 8 was not about teaching children in schools about homosexuals, it was about legalizing their marriageAyy Yi yi!! And what is sad is people believed this!
Off topic, but I just found it amusing that someone in CA would use the term......"Ayy Yi yi". We use it all the time in my family, oftentimes shaking our heads,rolling our eyes and maybe waving our hands 'goodbye' [or any combination thereof]! I dunno, it just tickled me.
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post #9 of 19
4/22/09 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by JuneBugBear07 View Post
I hope it passes there! Here in california (we are like the biggest liberal state!) and we couldnt even get Prop 8 to pass. My first year to vote and I was hoping it would pass. I got really heated when seeing the "false" adds against gay marriage....prop 8 was not about teaching children in schools about homosexuals, it was about legalizing their marriage Ayy Yi yi!! And what is sad is people believed this! . People said it was because of their faith they voted against it... hmmm most these people havent gone to church in like 5 or so years? I think they are just homophobic. Sorry this topic really gets to me.
I think you have it a little backwards. Prop 8 DID PASS! But a "yes" vote on Prop 8 meant that you believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

I think there should be civil unions for gays and the term "marriage" should be reserved for man/woman relationships. I totally believe that gay couples should be afforded the same rights as married couples, but I still have issues with using the term "marriage" to define these couples. FWIW I did vote No on Prop 8, even though I don't like "marriage" being applied to gay couples.
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post #10 of 19
4/23/09 at 1:59am
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post

I think there should be civil unions for gays and the term "marriage" should be reserved for man/woman relationships. I totally believe that gay couples should be afforded the same rights as married couples, but I still have issues with using the term "marriage" to define these couples.
I agree
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post #11 of 19
4/23/09 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
I think you have it a little backwards. Prop 8 DID PASS! But a "yes" vote on Prop 8 meant that you believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

I think there should be civil unions for gays and the term "marriage" should be reserved for man/woman relationships. I totally believe that gay couples should be afforded the same rights as married couples, but I still have issues with using the term "marriage" to define these couples. FWIW I did vote No on Prop 8, even though I don't like "marriage" being applied to gay couples.
Haha your right! I wasnt paying attention to what I was typing!! I agree about the Civil union thing though!

Pookieboy----lol I say Ayy Yi Yi all the time!! And I do the roll the eye thing when i say it haha it drives my parents crazy!!!
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post #12 of 19
5/4/09 at 1:14pm
Came across an interesting website that I found linked to my hometown newspaper in Iowa.

http://massresistance.org/

Not all in New England are happy about this or in Iowa. In fact the people in Iowa are pretty much up in arms about this.

I am not in favor of redefining marriage. I wouldn't fight against a civil law permitting same sex marriage but I will always define wife = female and husband = male
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post #13 of 19
5/4/09 at 1:33pm
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I am not in favor of redefining marriage. I wouldn't fight against a civil law permitting same sex marriage but I will always define wife = female and husband = male
I'm curious as to why this is. Yours is a fairly common statement, and I'd like to know where its origins lie. It rings of, "I'll let you be similar to me but not the same", perhaps out of fear of defiling the sanctity of "true" marriage(?)

I'm sure that's not the case, just a jaded impression on my part. But I am curious.
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post #14 of 19
5/4/09 at 1:59pm
Glad to see that civil unions between same sex are finally being recognized. Who's business is it anyway to stop people from doing this?


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Now that's a very scary site!
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post #15 of 19
5/4/09 at 6:19pm
Well, personally, it seems to me that the difference between civil unions and marriage is one of semantics. Regardless of what it's called, 2 consenting adults who want to form a permanent relationship need to have the same legal rights as far as the government is concerned. That said, I understand that there is a lot of emotion tied up in the term 'marriage'.

Since almost all of the heartache over the term marriage is coming from the religious front, I recommend that the government (and this needs to be the federal government) stops marrying anyone and only performs civil unions in the future. Existing marriages would be grandfathered in, but they would have no distinction from the civil unions as far as the law is concerned. Churches/mosques/shrines/etc could then, should they choose, 'marry' their congregants in a purely religious ceremony. And since the marriage ceremony would be purely religious with no legal bearing, the government would have no interest (and no right under the 1st Amendment) in interfering with who can and can't get married.
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post #16 of 19
5/4/09 at 6:55pm
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Well, personally, it seems to me that the difference between civil unions and marriage is one of semantics. Regardless of what it's called, 2 consenting adults who want to form a permanent relationship need to have the same legal rights as far as the government is concerned. That said, I understand that there is a lot of emotion tied up in the term 'marriage'.

Since almost all of the heartache over the term marriage is coming from the religious front, I recommend that the government (and this needs to be the federal government) stops marrying anyone and only performs civil unions in the future. Existing marriages would be grandfathered in, but they would have no distinction from the civil unions as far as the law is concerned. Churches/mosques/shrines/etc could then, should they choose, 'marry' their congregants in a purely religious ceremony. And since the marriage ceremony would be purely religious with no legal bearing, the government would have no interest (and no right under the 1st Amendment) in interfering with who can and can't get married.
I think that is a totally great idea.
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post #17 of 19
5/4/09 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
Glad to see that civil unions between same sex are finally being recognized. Who's business is it anyway to stop people from doing this?



Now that's a very scary site!
I didn't see anything scary on it. There are not promoting violence.
People are still allowed to not be in favor of same sex marriage, I don't think can be considered "scary". Scary, why?
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post #18 of 19
5/4/09 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I didn't see anything scary on it. There are not promoting violence.
People are still allowed to not be in favor of same sex marriage, I don't think can be considered "scary". Scary, why?
The way the truth is twisted to meet their agenda.
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post #19 of 19
5/7/09 at 5:53am
Looks like Maine has just become the 5th state to legalize gay marriage. The governor signed the law yesterday:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30602151/

The law doesn't go into effect until September though, and it sounds like if they can get enough support opponents can have the law suspended pending a state-wide vote. It's described as a 'public veto' process, so that may mean it requires 2/3 of the vote to overturn.

In New Hampshire, the legislature has passed a similar law and it's now headed to the governor's desk for his signature or veto.
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