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Originally Posted by Leporine

To Sharky (sorry, not sure how to directly reply to someone on these forum doohickies yet): I'm currently feeding my cats Wellness, though I won't be able to continue that for long simply because of the price.
yes good food but $$$... what is in your budget and how many cats are you feeding ?? Do you have access to big box pet stores ?? small mom and pop>>?? feed ??
 

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Originally Posted by Leporine

To Sharky (sorry, not sure how to directly reply to someone on these forum doohickies yet): I'm currently feeding my cats Wellness, though I won't be able to continue that for long simply because of the price.
To reply directly you click on "quote" on the bottom right of the post you want to reply to

Are you open to cooking at home, instead of feeding commercial brands?
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

yes good food but $$$... what is in your budget and how many cats are you feeding ?? Do you have access to big box pet stores ?? small mom and pop>>?? feed ??
My budget iiis... I'd like to go as cheap as possible while being healthy without having to store loads of raw meat in my freezer (for a while I wanted to do raw, but because I eat so much frozen food myself, I just found there was no room in my house). I have access to all three store types, but I'd prefer something I could find at the local Petco/Petsmart, because the others are pretty far away.
I'm feeding two cats, both are oddly small girls. One is 9 years old and the other is 3, if that makes any difference.
 
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Originally Posted by carolinalima

To reply directly you click on "quote" on the bottom right of the post you want to reply to

Are you open to cooking at home, instead of feeding commercial brands?
Thanks-
I'd prefer to avoid cooking for the cats at home, since I already have to cook most of my meals for myself and my schedule's pretty hectic.
 

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Brands to look at

Nutro ( you likely will like the max line as it has more than one grain

Natural balance

Halo

Solid gold

Petsmart Authority

Blue spa ( high veggie and grain )

By nature ( one is organic the other is not ... high grain and veggies )

all are premium foods ... IMHO quality similar to wellness


Needing really affordable look at Purina natural s ... lots of meat , grain and veggies and about 1$ a lb ( wellness here is about 3$ a lb
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

Needing really affordable look at Purina natural s ... lots of meat , grain and veggies and about 1$ a lb (wellness here is about 3$ a lb)
here, Authority's not much more than that - maybe $1.25 a pound [just got a bag today].
 

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Originally Posted by laureen227

here, Authority's not much more than that - maybe $1.25 a pound [just got a bag today].
thank you ... so a 16 lb bag is still under 25 ish??
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

Brands to look at

Nutro ( you likely will like the max line as it has more than one grain

Natural balance

Halo

Solid gold

Petsmart Authority

Blue spa ( high veggie and grain )

By nature ( one is organic the other is not ... high grain and veggies )

all are premium foods ... IMHO quality similar to wellness


Needing really affordable look at Purina natural s ... lots of meat , grain and veggies and about 1$ a lb ( wellness here is about 3$ a lb
Thanks a lot. I'll look at these next time I go shopping (I'm amazed some Purina food could actually be good for them!). I've had them on Natural Balance in the past but saw that my 3 year old's fur wasn't looking real great, so that's why I switched to Wellness. Her fur's been better since, but wow, I eat cheaper than that stuff!
 

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Originally Posted by Leporine

Thanks a lot. I'll look at these next time I go shopping (I'm amazed some Purina food could actually be good for them!). I've had them on Natural Balance in the past but saw that my 3 year old's fur wasn't looking real great, so that's why I switched to Wellness. Her fur's been better since, but wow, I eat cheaper than that stuff!
if the coat was not great on NB and better on wellness , look at solid gold and nutro ...
 

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Originally Posted by Leporine

Thanks a lot. I'll look at these next time I go shopping (I'm amazed some Purina food could actually be good for them!). I've had them on Natural Balance in the past but saw that my 3 year old's fur wasn't looking real great, so that's why I switched to Wellness. Her fur's been better since, but wow, I eat cheaper than that stuff!
If you are on a budget, I would personally recommend Authority (PetSmart brand) - lots of people here feed it with great feedback - it is a quality food, yet very affordable...
Also note that Sharky said Purina "Naturals" - the other ones are pretty bad
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

if the coat was not great on NB and better on wellness , look at solid gold and nutro ...
Sharky: would Nutro Max fit the bill as well,or only straight Nutro?
 
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Originally Posted by carolinalima

If you are on a budget, I would personally recommend Authority (PetSmart brand) - lots of people here feed it with great feedback - it is a quality food, yet very affordable...
Also note that Sharky said Purina "Naturals" - the other ones are pretty bad
Yeah, I did my research on normal Purina foods for my dog a while back and saw that it was pretty grody stuff. His fur, smell and teeth were terrible when he was being fed it.

Oddly, I don't think I've ever seen Authority at my Petsmart.
 

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Originally Posted by Leporine

Yeah, I did my research on normal Purina foods for my dog a while back and saw that it was pretty grody stuff. His fur, smell and teeth were terrible when he was being fed it.

Oddly, I don't think I've ever seen Authority at my Petsmart.
Yeah, that's odd - Authority is their own house brand, so if you don't find it, ask someone who works in there, and they will be able to show you.
 

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both nutro max and natural choice are higher in fatty acids than most foods ... thus aiding in skin and coat
 

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omg please dont' do this to your kitty. The problem is not that meat has stuff that cats need- the problem is cats cannot digest mostly anything besides meat. I guess you could put your cat on a KMR diet if you want to limit meat that will be the healthiest meatless diet I can think of.
 

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Hi Leporine! I am vegetarian (was once vegan and raw vegan) and I understand how you feel. Regardless of my beliefs, though, my cat does not choose to be vegan, so I feed her 25% wet food and 75% low-grain kibble.

The way I see it, if you do not consume any meat or secondary animal products at all, you have the carbon footprint of about 1/3 of an average person. Thus, by your cat (who consumes less than you) eating meat, you could think of raising your carbon footprint to maybe 1/2 of an average person. This way, it doesn't seem so bad.

Now I'm not sure if you are mostly concerned with animal welfare or the environmental problems with meat. But if animal welfare is your thing, just remember the welfare of your own pet. Hope this helps!
 

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Originally posted by Leporine
Does anyone have experience with vegan food and their cats- not just conjecture/"you-can't-do-that-because-you-can't"? I know it's safe for dogs, but I'm just a bit more wary about it with cats. I wouldn't do anything that might risk their health (not that meat-based food is always safe either).
Hopefully this article from Debra L. Zoran DVM will be helpful to you

http://home.earthlink.net/~jacm2/id1.html


This is information about Dr. Zoran

http://www.gbvma.com/zoran.htm


(I sent you an easy to read version of the article in a PM just now.)


Another good article that talks about the unique nutritional requirements of cats:

http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/catsaredif.html

Hopefully, after examining the facts you will realize that feeding a diet that does not contain any kind of animal protein would endanger the health of your cats.


By the way do you know (know of) Christina Pirello?
 

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Originally Posted by Leporine

Humans also evolved to eat meat, yet countless studies show we're fine without it as long as we get appropriate replacements for the iron, protein, amino acids, etc.
And what about the many years before the appropriate "replacements" were widely available?

I only eat fish as far as meat goes, rarely some chicken (a few times a year). But I feed my animals a meat based diet based on my research. And I only have to look in the wild to understand what nature intended (if you will) for my species of animals.
 

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