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Friends, we seem to be stuck on a discussion of faith vs lack of faith, the nature of God in the Christian faith, and assorted similar faith issues, largely Christian -- ummm, not the issue presented in the OP "Most religions in USA losing ground". Do you suppose we could get back to that topic? Or should we declare it dead and close the thread?
post #212 of 216
Well, I for one am glad to see such a distinction between faith and religion; it's what I've been saying all along, that the two aren't the same, and furthermore that it's the decline of faith and even the lack of faith in American churches and American religion that is at the root of the problem of the decline of religion in American society and until faith gets back into religion (perhaps brought back by another Billy Graham) I fear that religion will continue to decline in American society. If faith without works is dead, then religion without faith is just as dead. And so I think now we're back on the topic of the decline of religion, and not one more word about faith need be said.
post #213 of 216
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Actually, it hasn't been going anywhere for some time. Apparently the frustration of not having any facts has people completely overlooking questions concerning religion, and repling with something somewhere between faith, myth and out of the blue. So as it seems it's going to continue to be responding about religion with faith, and then complaining about faith being involved, I don't see any reason to keep it open.

But, I'm more than happy to keep asking till there answers.
post #214 of 216
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Originally Posted by coaster View Post
Well, Mike, first you say that God changed, then you say He didn't. Can't you make up your mind? Or ...... I have another thought ...... maybe it's that your concept of god takes after you ....... ya!! That's it!! Mike created god in his own image!!

Actually, you seem to have gotten the point. That's all there is. This whole thread is exactly what Linda was talking about in the religious decline in the US. When young people ask questions today, they don't get answers. They get quotes! Quotes from people who were only separated from the insane by their ability to write. They will constantly hear "God says...". Well, mule muffins! If any God says anything, it's going to be all over the news. A prophet is merely someone who writes down what the voices in his (or her) head tells them to, which is generally accepted as being a literate lunatic by today's standards.

eta: 20 years ago, when a child asked their parents about a higer power, they may have been told stories from the religion that the family had "always been part of". Or, they may have been handed the religious text that sat on the family's coffee table. The idea that yesterday's young “had a choice” in their religion was largely “bull hooey”. They were only given that choice after spending all their adolescent years being indoctrinated into the family religion, and the formative years have a great deal of bearing on choices that will be made later in life.

Today, though there are still no answers, there is far, far, far more information available. While the parents are watching TV and having a beer, the child types “god” into Google, and ends up at the Wikipedia article...and starting from there, they learn of the thousands of other gods, other religions, population of world religions, religious populations by country, etc etc and so forth. I honestly believe it's a safe bet that the people who complain of religions, or lack of religions, in schools don't pay very much attention at all to what the children are researching on the internet. They get the kids Sidekicks, Blackberry's and web-capable phones and send them on their way. It appears to me that the decline of religions in the US is because the kids are realizing that the family tradition isn't the only tradition anymore.

And to be honest, some traditions are better off being allowed to fade away gracefully.
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I know one thing, Christianity will never fade away.

There is ebb and flow in everything.
post #216 of 216
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I know one thing, Christianity will never fade away.

There is ebb and flow in everything.
Perhaps. According to The US Center for World Mission, a Christian organization, the percentage of the world that is Christian has been in steady decline for years. It's ebbing, but it doesn't appear at the time to be wanting to flow.
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