Ragdoll Grooming?

snake_lady · Mar 5, 2009

Question for Ragdoll breeders or owners.

Do you get your Raggie groomed at all?

I'm thinking of getting Kizzy groomed because of his long "butt fur"

(by groomed, I mean a slight hair cut)

If he has a soft stool, it ends up getting caught in the long fur on the back of his legs, which I refer to as butt fur.

Also, for those that regularly brush their Ragdolls, what kinds of brushes do you have?

Kizzy is not overly fond of being brushed, so I end up doing it in parts. Usually when he's laying down resting, I'll be able to do a quick brushing. I find that his fur gets "scraggly" looking under his chin, armpits, butt fur and on his lower belly.... once I brush it, its as beautiful as the rest of his fur

I have 2 brushes:

an undercoat rake like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg (just bought it a couple days ago)

a slicker type brush like this: http://www.petplanet.co.uk/shop_dev/...cker_brush.jpg

are these sufficient for him (keep in mind, he's not a show cat or anything, I just like seeing his fur all brushed out and he doesn't sit still thru a grooming session).

Thx.

carolina · Mar 5, 2009

Sometimes I wonder about Lucky's butt fur as well... I have pet moist wipes at home for any emergencies...
As far as brushes goes, I have several... The one I like the most is a round large boar bristle brush - for us humans, but since I don't brush my hair......
Bugsy sheds a LOT, so I use this one as a de-shedder: http://www.polycleaninnovations.com/...lon/index.html

ferriscat · Mar 5, 2009

We call the "butt fur" britches

I don't know anything about the texture of a Raggies coat, but we have some Ragdoll experts on this forum and I am sure they will get back with you.

Is your cat matted in that area? If not, I'd find it hard to justify trimming his britches. I'd be more concerned about changing the diet so that you don't have as many soft stools.

carolina · Mar 5, 2009

Originally Posted by FerrisCat

We call the "butt fur" britches

I don't know anything about the texture of a Raggies coat, but we have some Ragdoll experts on this forum and I am sure they will get back with you.

Is your cat matted in that area? If not, I'd find it hard to justify trimming his britches. I'd be more concerned about changing the diet so that you don't have as many soft stools.

I have two ragdolls, and I totally relate with her... the butt fur is just too long... It really doesn't need to be runny poop, they can just poop in a different angle, if you know what I mean

It is also harder for them to clean themselves, especially a female, like Lucky...
I think groomers call grooming for this a "hygienic trim"...

abymummy · Mar 5, 2009

As a person who grooms (read combing, bathing and show grooming) long hair cats regularly (any breed) I personally don't like using brushes or rakes, I prefer a comb. Brushes and rakes are only for "finishing". I'd keep the undercoat rake but would recommend you buy a comb.

If you are finding it hard to keep his britches clean, by all means, do get a sanitary shave

familytimerags · Mar 5, 2009

Wouldn't it be nice if the breeders could figure out a way to make those furry britches, teflon.

I would recommend a trim, to keep him clean.

I agree with abysmummy about the comb, the brushes are for finishing, and would take too much of the coat and undercoat with it. Use a comb first, I like the combo combs that are teflon.

Is runny stool always been a problem, or is this new?
Best Wishes,
Stormi

snake_lady · Mar 5, 2009

Originally Posted by FerrisCat

We call the "butt fur" britches

I don't know anything about the texture of a Raggies coat, but we have some Ragdoll experts on this forum and I am sure they will get back with you.

Is your cat matted in that area? If not, I'd find it hard to justify trimming his britches. I'd be more concerned about changing the diet so that you don't have as many soft stools.

Butt fur sounds funnier

But thanks, now I know what the proper term is.

No, Kizzy is not matted in that area, he hasn't gotten any mats since I've had him.

Originally Posted by Abymummy

I'd keep the undercoat rake but would recommend you buy a comb.

If you are finding it hard to keep his britches clean, by all means, do get a sanitary shave

Thanks for the advice

Any suggestion on a comb? I've seen a few, but I think they are all flea combs.... a pic would be great if you can?

Originally Posted by FamilytimeRags

Wouldn't it be nice if the breeders could figure out a way to make those furry britches, teflon.

I would recommend a trim, to keep him clean.

I agree with abysmummy about the comb, the brushes are for finishing, and would take too much of the coat and undercoat with it. Use a comb first, I like the combo combs that are teflon.

Is runny stool always been a problem, or is this new?
Best Wishes,
Stormi

Hmmmm, I do not find much hair in the brush at all.

re: soft stools.... please note I said soft stools, not runny poo.

If I feed him strictly dry food, his stools are normal... (even then will somehow get caught in his britches...or pieces of litter will). When I do get him to eat some wet food, he will have a soft stool for a day. (doesn't matter what kind of food..... my vet said it is most likely due to the extra moisture... he drinks alot of water, plus adding the water in the wet food and since I'm not feeding him 100% wet food his digestive system doesn't get used to it and reacts by having soft stool, or occassionally runny if he eats wet more than one day in a row. She's not worried, so I'm not worried).

Thanks for the concern though

His britches are quite long.....I'm not exaggerating. I can see how feces would get stuck to it... even the area right outside his anus is very furry. The poo would have to be rock hard to not get on it

I figured getting him a "hair cut" in that area would be better than having to bathe him anytime this happens. (over the last 2wks, I've had to bathe him 3 times to get the poo off)

A friend of mine is a dog groomer, whom I contacted today... she doesn't do cats but recommended someone in town that does

wellingtoncats · Mar 5, 2009

We call them trousers in Persians!

I think once Kizzy is 100% happy with his diet there shouldn't need to be a problem. My Fluffy used to get runny stool and it used to be constant work bathing her butt but now she's happy with her food and there's no problem?!

Are you feeding Kizzy an all raw diet?

abymummy · Mar 5, 2009

Originally Posted by Snake_Lady

Thanks for the advice

Any suggestion on a comb? I've seen a few, but I think they are all flea combs.... a pic would be great if you can?

Did a whole thread on it!

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176260

It's got pictures

snake_lady · Mar 5, 2009

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

We call them trousers in Persians!

I think once Kizzy is 100% happy with his diet there shouldn't need to be a problem. My Fluffy used to get runny stool and it used to be constant work bathing her butt but now she's happy with her food and there's no problem?!

Are you feeding Kizzy an all raw diet?

Trousers, britches and butt fur

I don't know, but I think he's going to always have the softer stool... It doesn't matter what wet food I feed him (have tried many brands) if he eats a 3.5oz tin, I guarentee he will have a soft stool...if he eats more than that, he will have a runny stool.

Maybe he will grow out of it....I hope.

No, he won't touch raw....I've tried, and will continue to try (since I have a freezer full of meeces)... but so far no go. He's on dry, and occassionally wet.

Originally Posted by Abymummy

Did a whole thread on it!

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176260

It's got pictures

great thread..... thanks so much.

wellingtoncats · Mar 6, 2009

Have you tried an all dry diet? Sorry Chris you've probably posted all this before.

I find the cats with sensitive stomachs do better having no wet food at all.

snake_lady · Mar 6, 2009

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

Have you tried an all dry diet? Sorry Chris you've probably posted all this before.

I find the cats with sensitive stomachs do better having no wet food at all.

Yes I have.... when I do that, there's no poo issues whatsoever. (still the odd piece will get stuck in his fur though).

goldenkitty45 · Mar 6, 2009

I don't use brushes on short or longhairs - only use varying types of combs from fine to medium tooth. It really works the best for either coat length. I don't know why people think that brushes will keep a cat groomed properly

snake_lady · Mar 7, 2009

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

I don't use brushes on short or longhairs - only use varying types of combs from fine to medium tooth. It really works the best for either coat length. I don't know why people think that brushes will keep a cat groomed properly

Personally, I got the slicker brush because I have one for my dog. It doesn't pull out alot of hair,just what is loose and Kizzy's coat looks slicky smooth with no lines when I use it, works great on the "armpit" area, and the other troublesome areas..

So from a non-groomer's position, that brush works great. Could someone please take the time to explain what is wrong with the slicker brush?

Also could someone explain the difference between an undercoat rake and a come? I'm saying "undercoat rake" because that was what was on the package. Too me it looks pretty much like a comb, only with a handle.

Keep in mind, Kizzy is not a show cat and will not sit longer than a couple mins through a brushing of any sort. As much as I'd love to have him sit for 10mins for a grooming session, he will not

abymummy · Mar 7, 2009

I don't know how to explain the difference - all I know is that it does make a difference. Most likely the difference is in the length of the teeth.

I am not an "expert" longhair groomer by any means, I know I have a lot more to learn - I have yet to dare show a Persian! However, a teflon comb does work on any long hair cat and yes, I have bathed and show groomed ragdolls before.

As for not being able to groom your cat for any length of time - you have to take control - get very alpha. I know it sounds easier than done but you can do it! Have faith!

snake_lady · Mar 7, 2009

Originally Posted by Abymummy

I don't know how to explain the difference - all I know is that it does make a difference. Most likely the difference is in the length of the teeth.

Hmmm, ok. I will take your word for it and see if I can find a comb

I just did a quick search, google apparantly does not know everything

but what I "think" is this: the undercoat rake has teeth that are thicker at the bottom, thinner up top. Here's a pic, works better than trying to explain. http://www.petownersgroomshop.com/fr...oat%20rake.jpg

Whereas a comb just has straight teeth. I don't know what difference that makes...but that's the difference I've found in the rake vs comb.

I am not an "expert" longhair groomer by any means, I know I have a lot more to learn - I have yet to dare show a Persian! However, a teflon comb does work on any long hair cat and yes, I have bathed and show groomed ragdolls before.

As for not being able to groom your cat for any length of time - you have to take control - get very alpha. I know it sounds easier than done but you can do it! Have faith!

I have tried on occassion, by grabbing his scruff to hold onto him....it works for a minute or two

I will keep trying though, I really like his fur when he's fully brushed out.

presouz · Jun 26, 2016

Snake_Lady said:
Question for Ragdoll breeders or owners.

Do you get your Raggie groomed at all?

I'm thinking of getting Kizzy groomed because of his long "butt fur"

(by groomed, I mean a slight hair cut)

If he has a soft stool, it ends up getting caught in the long fur on the back of his legs, which I refer to as butt fur.

Also, for those that regularly brush their Ragdolls, what kinds of brushes do you have?

Kizzy is not overly fond of being brushed, so I end up doing it in parts. Usually when he's laying down resting, I'll be able to do a quick brushing. I find that his fur gets "scraggly" looking under his chin, armpits, butt fur and on his lower belly.... once I brush it, its as beautiful as the rest of his fur

I have 2 brushes:

an undercoat rake like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg (just bought it a couple days ago)

a slicker type brush like this: http://www.petplanet.co.uk/shop_dev/...cker_brush.jpg

are these sufficient for him (keep in mind, he's not a show cat or anything, I just like seeing his fur all brushed out and he doesn't sit still thru a grooming session).

Thx.

Yes that's called a Brazilian we get that on our kitties but I have pet trimmers for years now I used on my dogs in the past and now I use it to trim the bums of both my rag dolls. I was getting my recent 2 rag dolls groomed but the groomer insisted on washing my cats every 6 to 8 weeks and every time I resisted she get ticked off even though I had her out every two months to trim their nails and brush them she would get upset when she said oh they need a bath and I would say no. I don't want to because I don't want to put my cat through that stress every two months but because I can't afford $90 times two whenever groomers whem decides! My other two rag dolls never were groomed I did brush them but not as often as I should have. And they were fine one lived to be 17 and one unfortunately ended up with cancer and passed at 12 , anyway my groomer uses a medium cat steel comb, so I bought one and have been using it my kitten is actually a little over year now actually purrs when I brush her with the comb but if she gets too antsy I come back in a couple hours to finish.

Bottom line I've had cats for over 50 years in a couple times I did give my kitties Bathes for reasons because they were dirty or because they had poop on there butt other than that they did not get baby regularly why my groomer now decides I need to do it every couple months is beyond me. Anyway she got mad at me the last time because I wouldn't grew my kitten who just was grand less than two months earlier and she told me she can't be my groomer anymore. What a tantrum! Oh well I can trim the nails, just not as short as she does and I definitely can comb I just got in the habit of being lazy and having her out to do it Because she was pretty reasonably priced and I thought I was helping her in her business. We are her only clients with ragdoll she doesn't realize that rag dolls have little to no undercoat so it is very easy to keep a ragdoll's coat brushed. At the age my kitty is she says she is greasy oh well I had a 17-year-old that was greasy almost every day of her life. So if I put a little dry shampoo or some cornstarch on the kiddies the grease will go away no need to wash them and put them through all that drying hair dryer stuff. OK done with my rant lol[emoji]128008[/emoji][emoji]10084[/emoji]️

neely · Jul 5, 2016

Although not a Ragdoll I presently have one Persian, and have had Persians in the past as well. Several people recommended the Greyhound comb to me and I swear by it. It's absolutely wonderful.

Here's a link in case you want to check it out (I bought mine on Amazon):

or

https://www.petedge.com/zpetedgemai...P_TR&itemKey=005056A633791ED2B586411AA5854FB3

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