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post #1 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hello, It looks to me like Misty has black stuff in one ear. She fights me so much if I try and get a good look in there. Is that normally mites or could it be other things?

She don't seem to be bothered by it to much, she sometimes digs and scratches in it.

I want to take her in but wife complains about the cost of going to the vet. I don't want to wait so long it turns into a big problem for Misty or spreads it to the other cats.

I think I know the answers but I am looking for opinions on this.

Tom
post #2 of 58
is the black stuff easily removed, like w/a swab? in my experience, the black stuff caused by mites is very sticky/tarry stuff - not easily removed.
if it IS mites, they're VERY contagious. also, untreated mite infestations can lead to major ear issues.
post #3 of 58
I have always heard that the black icky stuff is ear mite droppings or eggs. You NEED to get it checked either way, it could be an ear infection. Scratching or digging at the ear also needs to be addressed by a vet. I know its expensive, I am going through many trips to the vet myself. But ear issues are not only miserable for Misty, but don't get better without help

DOES the ear smell?? I know it's weird, but sniff kittys ear, any odor needs to be seen. (((I'm not sure if mite stuff smells or not))) But I am positive that smelly ears are a sign to see the vet!

Good luck
post #4 of 58
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Originally posted by Tom W:
I want to take her in but wife complains about the cost of going to the vet. I don't want to wait so long it turns into a big problem for Misty or spreads it to the other cats.
Please show her this:

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Symptoms of ear mites often mimic other ear diseases. For example, a yeast infection might also produce a black exudate in your cat's ears. Since using anti-mite preparations may aggravate an ear infection, an accurate diagnosis is imperative.
Link to the article where you'll find this info:
http://www.petplace.com/cats/ear-mit...ats/page1.aspx
post #5 of 58
if you can swab some out of her ear and the gook reminds you of coffee grinds(dark in color) you more than likely have mites. if there is also an odor coming from her ear id definately take her to the vet for some meds. if its more waxy and lighter brown its more than likely just waxy buildup. a good ear cleaning could help her a bit. good luck!
post #6 of 58
I agree with mites. Kittens we bring in usually have mites, and their ears are black and icky.
post #7 of 58
Thread Starter 
Misty is going in Thursday morning to be checked out.
post #8 of 58
Dite just had some black stuff in her ear and they said she had an ear infection and gave me some Entederm to put in. Also, there is a solution that you can make for like $1.50 from the grocery store to clean out the ears. It's half white vinegar and half distilled water. Equal parts no matter how big of a quantity you mix. You put it on a cotton ball or gauze and close her ear around it and massage for like 30 secs to a min... then clean out with Qtip. You can't hurt her ears cause her canal is at a 90 deg. angle. Anyways that is something you can do in the mean time. Just some suggestions....the vinegar/water solution won't hurt her. Good luck!
post #9 of 58
My kitty had mites when we first got him, the vet said that it was quite common. The vet gave us some ear drops and it wasn't too expensive. It was like a black gooey type stuff and he was scratching a bit. The ear drops got rid of them really quickly.
post #10 of 58
Please get her checked...would you like to have an untreated infection?

My cats have had both ear mites and Bella had a yeast infection in her ear. With the mites it was sticky, black and looked a bit like used coffee grounds --the vet cured it with one application of ear medicine and they haven't come back.

The yeast infection was treated with a two week course of ear drops (which were ~$20) and a change in diet (no more wheat gluten!).

We now check their ears weekly and periodically we use kitty ear wipes to clean out gunk (gently). that there is a quick inexpensive treatment for your kitty's problems.
post #11 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hi, Misty has a yeast infection in her ear. The vet cleaned it out the best she could and looked in her ear with a scope thing and said it must not have took hold to hard yet because it was not red or irritated in there yet. I have to put drops in her ear two times a day for 10 days.

Tom
post #12 of 58
I had a cat (over the RB now) who had recurring problems with yeast in the ears, poor guy. I had never heard of that problem until he came along (at first I thought he had ear mites). The good news is that my other cat never had an issue. Good luck to you and Misty!
post #13 of 58
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I am little worried about Misty, I called the vet so she knows about it. She is also somewhat stumped as to what is going on. What she did with her ear should not have affected her eyes.

what is going on is a couple hours after I got Misty home I noticed that the pupil in the eye on the same side as the infected ear is about half the size as the other eye. I took a flash lite and shined it in her eyes and both eyes react but one pupil stays way smaller than the other. I was told to watch her close tonight.

Anyone have any ides on what might be going on?
post #14 of 58
I'm looking for info on this for you. So far I found this:

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Uneven pupils after an ear cleaning can indicate that there is something going on in the middle ear cavity. This is common in something called Horner's syndrome. There are nerves that go to the eye that go through the middle ear of the cat. Usually, this will go away on its own, but certainly let your vet know about it.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Ask-Veter...r-cleaning.htm
post #15 of 58
Thread Starter 
That sure sounds like what is going on with Misty, as of right now there is no improvement in her eye, and she seems to have a little problem with balance, when she shakes her head because of her ear bothering her she sometimes falls down on her side. If she don't seem any better in the morning I will call the vet again.
post #16 of 58
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Hi Again, I just put the med in Misty's ear and she immediately started foaming at the mouth and can hardly walk. I am so scared for her right now. I am calling the vet on call for tonight.
post #17 of 58
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Originally Posted by Tom W View Post
Hi Again, I just put the med in Misty's ear and she immediately started foaming at the mouth and can hardly walk. I am so scared for her right now. I am calling the vet on call for tonight.
Sending mega prayers and vibes for speedy healing out to Misty
Maybe nausea caused by ear problems is making her foam at the mouth! I have had inner ear infections, and they make the room seem slanted. The first time I had one, I was a receptionist - when I pushed my wheeled office chair away from my desk, the world "angled" and I immediately & without warning, yakked in my trash can. My boss had to carry me to his car & to the dr. they thought I was having a stroke Miserable experience
post #18 of 58
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Originally Posted by Tom W View Post
Hi Again, I just put the med in Misty's ear and she immediately started foaming at the mouth and can hardly walk. I am so scared for her right now. I am calling the vet on call for tonight.
that sounds like the right approach - maybe she's allergic to it?
post #19 of 58
Thread Starter 
The Dr on call got back to me, I told him the story and he wonders if she has a ruptured ear drum and not to give her any more of the drops.

Misty was really hurting when when the vet was digging in her ear, I hope she didn't do any damage to the inner ear. Misty was fine before I took her in this morning, just had black stuff in her ear and now all this. I am going to call first thing in the morning and get her back in.
post #20 of 58
Oh God, how awful. I hope and pray Misty doesn't have a ruptured ear drum. That would be terrible. Sending heartfelt prayers for her.
post #21 of 58
for Misty. Those are some scary symptoms!
post #22 of 58
Thread Starter 
I talked to another vet from the same place this morning, He also thinks its a ruptured ear drum and/or the infection is deep inside the ear so I have to give her antibiotic by mouth now. I don't understand why she didn't show any problems before they worked on her ear.

Am I wrong to be upset with the whole deal right now??
post #23 of 58
prayers for Misty to be ok.
post #24 of 58
Thread Starter 
I just gave Misty the antibiotic in her mouth and the same thing, she foams at the mouth real bad right away so it looks like this won't work either. I called the vet again, waiting to hear back from them.
post #25 of 58
Quote:
Originally posted by Tom W:
I talked to another vet from the same place this morning, He also thinks its a ruptured ear drum and/or the infection is deep inside the ear so I have to give her antibiotic by mouth now. I don't understand why she didn't show any problems before they worked on her ear.

Am I wrong to be upset with the whole deal right now??
I think you have every right to be upset.

I found something in an article that makes me believe the vets should want to see Misty again to determine whether the ear drum is ruptured or intact. Here is the info I found:

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Since these symptoms are similar and usually mean an infection, can I just buy some medication without an examination for my cat?

There are several kinds of bacteria and at least one type of fungus which might cause an ear infection. Without knowing the kind of infection present, your veterinarian will not know which drug to use. In some cases, the ear infection may be caused by a foreign body or tumor in the ear canal. Treatment with medication alone will not resolve these problems. Also, the cat must be examined to be sure that the eardrum is intact. Administration of certain medications can result in loss of hearing if the eardrum is ruptured. This determination is made by the veterinarian and must be done in the office.
Link:
http://chai-online.org/en/companion/...ng_cat_ear.htm

If the vet who saw Misty yesterday didn't say anything to you about a ruptured ear drum, then the ear drum must have been all right. So if the vets are speculating about a possible ruptured ear drum today, you should be able to find out what the situation is.
post #26 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hi, Thanks for all the good vibes for Misty, she really needs them today.

Misty's eyes are close to even again but her balance problems are getting worse. The vet that first worked on her ear said that she didn't see a ruptured ear drum or any tumor in her ear.

Misty is throwing up early this morning also. She can't even walk along the top of our big couch to look out he front window without major problems now. She also don't want to eat either, I got her to eat a few cat treats last night but if I give her some of the cat food she normally eats she puts it in her mouth and then spits it out. I don't know if she has drank any water either. She laid by me most of the night so at least she don't think I did this to her, I was afraid she would start avoiding me.

It's real hard for me to not blame the vet who first worked on her ear, but when she was not having all these problems before I took her in and then have all this come up right after the vet visit I think most people would be upset also. I also don't know why they don't want to see her to double check her ear again. We are tight for money but I still want everything that can be done to help Misty to be done. I wish my favorite vet had worked on her in the first place, but she was not in the day Misty went in, and every time I call I get someone different calling me back who didn't work on her. I have never had a problem with this place before but I am not to pleased with them right now. Its probably not there fault but like I said before she was acting fine before I took her in.

I was told the foam is extra saliva from stress and bad taste of the meds. I was told she has to have the antibiotic and to take a extra syringe with water to give her right after the med to help wash away the taste and they can put flavoring in the med to make it taste better if need be.

I am really scared for her and she is such a nice well behaved girl who never hurt anyone, she don't deserve to be put through all this. Maybe if I had taken her in earlier it might not have come to this but I never seen her act like she was having problems, I just happened to see the black stuff one day in the bright sun light so I figure I would have it checked out.

After what I went through with Tuffy I am a little gun shy that a simple problem with Misty will snowball into something real bad and I will loose her too.

I am sorry to be ranting a little and whining on here but I guess I just need to vent a little. It won't take much more and I will be telling the vets office what I think of this whole deal also.

I love this site, everyone goes out of there way to help me out when I am having trouble.

Tom
post #27 of 58
Tom, I'm so sorry you and Misty are going through this.

Like you, I also don't know why they don't want to see her, I absolutely can't understand that. The vets at the hospital I go to would have seen a cat in Misty's condition immediately. I'm wondering, can you possibly call the place and get in touch with your favorite vet, or would that be impossible on a Saturday? I do believe Misty should be seen again since she got so sick after the vet visit. Please, if at all possible, give them a call this morning, try to get Misty back in for an exam.

I'm sending many, many prayers and get well wishes for Misty. I hope she starts feeling better very soon.
post #28 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hi, Well I called the vet's office first thing this morning, and I ran her in right away and a different Dr looked her over. Her ear drum is not ruptured but he said it is bulging out from pressure behind it. He injected a bunch of fluids in her, injected a couple different meds into her, I think one was a antibiotic and the other was a pain/anti-inflammatory med and also gave her a pill antibiotic. The vet is hoping to get the pressure down behind her ear drum before it ruptures or what ever the term is. He told me to watch her ear for any wet looking stuff, he said if there is a bunch of it then the ear drum probably ruptured.

The vet who looked at her today is a young guy who I never met before, but I was impressed with him and everything he did for Misty this morning, he even offered to keep her there till Monday morning ,but he said if they kept her they would do the same things they did to her anyway and after talking it over we decided it would be less stress-full for Misty {and me} to be home. They always have someone on call in case of emergencies so if something would happen on Sunday she would be seen if need be.

After I got her to the vet I noticed her eyes were going from side to side like she was having trouble focusing her eyes, The vet said with the pressure in her inner ear it was like the room was spinning to her so she was trying to focus on something.

I went away for a few hours today, when I got home she was still resting under the bed where she was when I left. Yvonne was going to go along with me today but she stayed home to watch Misty till I got home again.

Right now her eyes are not going side to side like they were but she is still having problems walking because her balance is still all messed up. She finely walked out to the living room and managed to jump up on the couch by herself and is resting.

The lady I got Misty from answered the phone this morning and I told her what was going on and she said to bring her in right away and they would see her. She is as upset as I am about the whole deal, she was even crying a little when she was talking to Misty. She can't understand either how she could be fine and just have her ear cleaned and meds put in it and then end up with all these problems. I asked the new vet the same thing and he gave some lame answer about her being worse off than it looked at first, but if that was true why didn't she show any problems before I took her in?? Maybe I shouldn't say that on here in case people that work there happen to read this, but every one I talk to about this all think it's strange that she was OK before and get so bad so fast after the first visit.

Sorry for the long post, Probably more stuff than most need or want to know about all this, but I want to tell all that is going on with Misty and she is being taken good care of now.

Tom
post #29 of 58
What are you giving her?
My cat foams from most antibiotics and can only take a few kinds.
post #30 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hi mews2much,

At first it was Tresaderm drops in her ear, what's real odd is she foamed at the mouth from the ear drops almost instantly. Then they tried Clindamycin Hydrochloride liquid in her mouth, she foamed at the mouth real bad the first dose and then foamed real bad and then threw up the med on the second dose. I was told to try and squirt water in her mouth right after the med to try and wash the bad taste from her mouth but she still foamed real bad and threw up.

This morning they gave her a shot of Metcam, I think that is the pain/anti-inflammatory med that is good for 3 days, and a injection of Baytril and a 22.7 mg pill of Baytril, I have a bottle of the Baytril pills for her, must be the antibiotic. Also injected fluids in her because she has not been eating or drinking since Thursday afternoon, at least I have not seen her eat or drink. He said I should put butter on the pills before I give them to her, it will make them easier to swallow and taste much better.

Tom
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