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Thread Starter 
Has anyone tried this? It's Canadian made, wheat and potato free. What are your thoughts?
post #2 of 12
do you have a website or ingrediant list??
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
http://www.horizonpetfood.com/

Ingredients:Fresh chicken meat, chicken meal, salmon meal, turkey meal, pea starch concentrate, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary, citric acid), green split peas, whole eggs, flaxseed, salmon oil, dried alfalfa, carrots, apples, broccoli, bok choy, cabbage, cranberries, Saskatoon berries, dried kelp, dried pumpkin meal, colostrum, sea buckthorn, fenugreek protein meal, dried pomegranate, dried astragalus root, dried milk thistle, glucosamine HCl, chondroitin sulphate, garlic, enzymes (dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried aspergillus niger extract, pineapple, dried trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation product, rhizopus oryzae), probiotics (dried enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation product, and dried lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product), taurine, yucca schidigera extract, mannan oligosaccharide (MOS), burdock root extract (FOS), vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, vitamin B12, riboflavin, niacin, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, vitamin C (ascorbyl phosphate), ferrous sulphate, iron proteinate*, zinc sulphate, zinc proteinate*, manganous oxide, manganese proteinate*, copper sulphate, copper proteinate*, calcium iodate, sodium selenite, seleno methionine, magnesium oxide.

Nutritional Information
Protein (min)41%
Fat (min) 20%
Fibre (max) 3%
Moisture (max)9%
Omega 3 1%**
Omega 6 3%**
post #4 of 12
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Originally Posted by Angelwing View Post
http://www.horizonpetfood.com/

Ingredients:Fresh chicken meat, chicken mealGREAT imho , salmon mealfish is ??able to many I prefer it not this high in the ingredients , turkey meal, pea starch concentratecould be GMO and many are allergic , chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary, citric acid)first can cause tummy upset the second can be chemically based , green split peaspeas are high allergens , whole eggs, flaxseed, salmon oil, dried alfalfaallergen and can be laden with chemicals , carrots, apples, broccoli, bok choy, cabbage, cranberries, Saskatoon berries, dried kelp, dried pumpkin meal, colostrum, sea buckthorn, fenugreek protein mealused in humans for things like milk production really wondering about how it is a protein meal, dried pomegranate, dried astragalus root, dried milk thistleHERBS in general should be used with caution... this one is for liver function, glucosamine HCl, chondroitin sulphate, garliccan cause anemia that has resulted in death, enzymes (dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried aspergillus niger extract, pineapple, dried trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation product, rhizopus oryzae), probiotics (dried enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation product, and dried lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product), taurine, yucca schidigera extract, mannan oligosaccharide (MOS), burdock root extract (FOS), vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, vitamin B12, riboflavin, niacin, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, vitamin C (ascorbyl phosphate), ferrous sulphate, iron proteinate*, zinc sulphate, zinc proteinate*, manganous oxide, manganese proteinate*, copper sulphate, copper proteinate*, calcium iodate, sodium selenite, seleno methionine, magnesium oxide.

Nutritional Information
Protein (min)41%
Fat (min) 20%
high yet moderate protein and fat
Fibre (max) 3%
Moisture (max)9%
Omega 3 1%**
Omega 6 3%**
3 to one ratio is NOT ideal , 5 to 1 to 10 to 1 generally accepted as best

it is a good food IMHO by reading it but lots of ??ables as with most holistic type foods
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
3:1 ratio of what? I would also prefer that fish be listed farther down or excluded but I haven't seen any grain free foods that don't contain fish around here...

How would you compare this to Orijen, which is what I'm currently feeding? I know that the Orijen scare is apparently only in Australia (government to blame) but I'm not sure if I should be a bit wary or not...

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs,deboned turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.

TONIC HERBS AND BOTANICALS

Chicory root, licorice root, tumeric root, funugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, zea mays, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosehips.

ORGANIC MINERALS

Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate.

PROBIOTIC MICROORGANISMS

Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.

PREMIUM VITAMINS

Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Also, what do your colour codes mean?
post #7 of 12
http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=140038

that explains it

basically blue = IMHO great

orange = caution fine for some but not others

magenta = real caution
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Alright thanks. I'm going to the store tonight so I may try out the horizon legacy and see if it works better for my one kitty that I believe has an allergy (to what, I'm not sure). He's doing pretty good on the no grain food, but his poops are still soft sometimes. Especially if he gets treats or wet food.
post #9 of 12
That ingredient list sounded bad to me. There should not be any vegies, fruit, berries, seed oils. Please try to find food that is mostly meat and meat by products.
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
That ingredient list sounded bad to me. There should not be any vegies, fruit, berries, seed oils. Please try to find food that is mostly meat and meat by products.
farleyv- I'm hoping that, at the very least, you're meaning a specific meat's by-products....as in "chicken by-products" versus "meat by-products"......

Batten down your hatches for sure, after your post and my reply....I'm sure the storm is coming on!

Folks, before you start in on specific by-products.....does anyone think their cats would do poorly on mouse "by-products"?
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by BLAISE View Post
farleyv- I'm hoping that, at the very least, you're meaning a specific meat's by-products....as in "chicken by-products" versus "meat by-products"......

Batten down your hatches for sure, after your post and my reply....I'm sure the storm is coming on!

Folks, before you start in on specific by-products.....does anyone think their cats would do poorly on mouse "by-products"?
mouse by products eaten vary by cat though.. ... here no one will eat the brain yet many cats will... mine prefer liver ,kidneys...

Meat by products and Meat is oh too General as BLAISE pointed out ... that could by some definitions = cat , dog or horse
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'm not buying any commercial food with by-products in it. And why do you think the ingredients list sounds bad, farleyv? You aren't going to find a food that doesn't contain ANY sort of veggies/fruits unless you go raw, which is not what I want to do. What I'm feeding now (Orijen) is very high in meat protein as it is. The Horizon Legacy doesn't look bad at all.
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