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post #31 of 40
I also would be very uncomfortable and you did the right thing, it will be HR that decides what to do. As you stated it was not just the trench coat, or the book but his behavior, put that all together and you have reason to be uncomfortable and should speak up. He may just be looking for attention and gets his kicks by making people nervous but no one should have to work in an environment that feels threatening and uncomfortable. As far as prejudice, he chose to make a statement and what makes his rights any more important than the rights of the others there. If he is an okay guy he will change his behavior when given the chance to do so.
post #32 of 40
Thread Starter 
thanks so much. im really glad some of you see where im coming from. im glad i didnt decide to close my computer and stay away over something so ridiculous, but it kinda sucked waking up this morning to see that i was called prejudice and stereotypical. Maybe i came across the wrong way. I shouldnt have let it get to me, every morning my ritual is coffee and catsite and it totally messed that up, but im better now! thanks!
post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by nekkiddoglady View Post
a green trenchcoat is good.. my brother has a black leather trenchcoat.. so what's that mean? LOL


Maybe its not so much of owning a trenchcoat.. but it sounded like he was wearing it inside at work?
black leather = cool
post #34 of 40
I would not be comfortable with him with the behaviors you've described. What if something did happen; then we'd all be convinced there were warning signs and that someone should have done something before hand! Isn't that what always happens after things like that? The whole hind-sight being 20/20 thing is so true. Remember everything that came out about the young man from the Virginia Tech shootings? More people could have been afraid to speak up when they saw warning signs because they were afraid of comments like those directed at the OP in this thread! As has been pointed out; it is his behaviors that have people concerned. If he were being judged merely on appearances; that would be another story.

I believe you have a right to feel as safe as possible in your workplace! I'm not sure how I would proceed with this if I were in the management/HR's shoes at your company; but I'll say that I'd be keeping an eye on him very carefully. I know in my state, they can hire and fire at will. That guy would have to prove he was discriminated against. Also, I've worked for several companies that had very specific employment policies regarding behaviors that could be seen as threatening. Being in a call center; I would hope the company is large enough to have an established written policy for such occasions. I hope your manager had to document the concerns brought to him about this new employee. I would feel bad about causing anyone to be out of work during difficult times like this; but I think I'd feel much worse if something did happen to my employees because I was afraid to voice my concerns!
post #35 of 40
How can he be fired? He didn't do anything wrong. Wearing a trench coat and a controversial book that is really old does not justify being fired. I work in a call center and honestly I don't pay attention to what people read. It's really none of my business. If someone left that book at a desk I was sitting at and there were no calls I would probably pick it up and read it again out of boredom.

If he is making people uncomfortable with his actions he should talked to by the boss.
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by CarolPetunia View Post
You're absolutely right! But this is not an issue of tolerance... not yet.

This man is not being feared and suspected because of his race or religion -- he's being feared and suspected because of specific behaviors that make some people wonder whether he has some kind of terrorist agenda.

Tolerance will only apply here once we know the man is not, in fact, planning any kind of violence. Once his behavior is proven merely strange, rather than dangerous, then we will owe him tolerance. Do you see the distinction I'm drawing?
Excellent post!
post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by cats4sky View Post

i DONT think i deserve to be called Prejudice,...
No, I don't think you do either.
post #38 of 40
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
How can he be fired? He didn't do anything wrong. Wearing a trench coat and a controversial book that is really old does not justify being fired. I work in a call center and honestly I don't pay attention to what people read. It's really none of my business. If someone left that book at a desk I was sitting at and there were no calls I would probably pick it up and read it again out of boredom.

If he is making people uncomfortable with his actions he should talked to by the boss.
I agree, he can't be fired for his actions but he REALLY needs to be talked to and understand what is acceptible and what isn't in the work place. Hence why she filed a complaint with HR and she wasn't the only one apparently.

I just think some things shouldn't be read at work....a book about making bombs and/or drugs would be one of them. The BOOK may be legal to sell, but the information in the book (bombs/drugs) isn't. If he wants to read it at home, fine. But I really don't think that is work reading material. I'm sorry, but when I'm working in a building with 1000 employees basically chained to their computer, and I see someone reading a book on how to build bombs...on his first day?? Yeah, that would put up some red flags.
post #39 of 40
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Originally Posted by calico2222 View Post
I just think some things shouldn't be read at work....a book about making bombs and/or drugs would be one of them. The BOOK may be legal to sell, but the information in the book (bombs/drugs) isn't. If he wants to read it at home, fine. But I really don't think that is work reading material. I'm sorry, but when I'm working in a building with 1000 employees basically chained to their computer, and I see someone reading a book on how to build bombs...on his first day?? Yeah, that would put up some red flags.
I agree with you. That book is not something you would want to take to work. He definately doesn't show any common sense.
post #40 of 40
we used to have a lot of teenagers trying to special order that book when i worked in a bookstore and i always told them it was out of print. another one i'd also refuse to order was 'The Encyclopedia of Revenge'.
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