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post #1 of 51
Thread Starter 
I had lunch today at the "On the Border" restaurant close to the store I was delivering at. I had a lunch chimichanga and a diet coke, which came to $10.37. I gave the waitress a $20 bill, and she brought back 9 $1 bills as change.

So...she assumed she would get at least 63 cents as a tip. I left one of the dollar bills, and called it even.
post #2 of 51
if the waitress did not bring back the full change, I probably would not have left any tip.. just let her have the change she kept. Thats a bit of a pet peeve when a waitress takes it upon herself to keep a tip like that.
post #3 of 51
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
I had lunch today at the "On the Border" restaurant close to the store I was delivering at. I had a lunch chimichanga and a diet coke, which came to $10.37. I gave the waitress a $20 bill, and she brought back 9 $1 bills as change.

So...she assumed she would get at least 63 cents as a tip. I left one of the dollar bills, and called it even.
Hmmmm, this is one of those politically correct/personal character trick situations!
She with out a doubt should not have assumed any tip by returning less then what your exact change was.
In my opinion, the tip amount should be solely based on service. If it sucked, the change they with held just verifies this! If the service was friendly and accomodating, I don't think you would be asking this!
post #4 of 51
Thread Starter 
Actually, the service was fine, and I would have left her $2 as a tip.
post #5 of 51
I would have left a "tip" on the back of the receipt.
post #6 of 51
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Actually, the service was fine, and I would have left her $2 as a tip.
Same here... I can't get myself to give a dollar tip...
post #7 of 51
This is also a pet peeve of mine, when waitresses take it upon themselves to take a tip. I probably would have asked her where the rest of my change was
post #8 of 51
I actually can't even beleive that servers assume tips.
post #9 of 51
the way I see it, if she assumed she was entitled to a 63 cent tip.. then that's what she gets.

Otherwise, had the proper change been brought to me, and I felt I got good service, I would leave $2-3.
post #10 of 51
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Originally Posted by nekkiddoglady View Post
the way I see it, if she assumed she was entitled to a 63 cent tip.. then that's what she gets.

Otherwise, had the proper change been brought to me, and I felt I got good service, I would leave $2-3.
I wouldn't have left her anything. Had she not taken any change, I would have left $2 or $3 if I liked the service.
post #11 of 51
I hate tipping that being said:

several close people in my life have had or do work in the restaurant industry. they rely very heavily on tips because the job itself pays very little on average. I always overtip because its kinda the right thing to do. 15-20% is expected and typical.

on the other hand, most of these people make a killing in tips. maybe 300$ a day in tips alone! and of course not hiving you your change is stealing, unless she forgot the coins and the register only had 1's for change (totally possible).

I would not go back, and if you do, go tell her shes naughty!
post #12 of 51
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Originally Posted by Meowers View Post
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on the other hand, most of these people make a killing in tips. maybe 300$ a day in tips alone!

I think Im in the wrong kind of work!
post #13 of 51
People who assume they are getting a tip, get no tip from me! I posted something similar to this, about taxi cab drivers who round up fares to the nearest dollar and "keep the change".

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=185015

My rule of thumb is if someone is doing something "personal" for me and pampering me, then fine, I'll tip. But I won't tip if the person tries to take their own tip. I'll ask for my correct change and then leave.

More than 20 years ago the required tip was 10%. I remember having gone to an upscale restaurant. The bill for 2 was over $60.00. Back then that was a great deal of money. I remember having given the waiter a $100.00 bill and him saying "Thank you" and never coming back with the change. We sat there for nearly half an hour finishing our coffee. He never once came back to the table, though he was in the area but he seemed to be "ducking" around where we were.

Before I left I sought him out and reminded him that he owed me a substantial amount of change. He looked shocked and then stammered that he had forgotten. He gave me my change and I didn't leave him a tip. He hadn't forgotten. He did he best to avoid coming back to our table, assuming that we wouldn't have the nerve to approach him about it.
post #14 of 51
I probably wouldn't have left her anything. If she automatically claims some of my change as her tip, then fine, that's what she's getting. I am also one of those people who has no problem leaving next to nothing when I get crappy service. One time I had horrible service and left a quarter. Figured it would get the message through more than leaving nothing. A friend of mine thought I was an absolutely horrible person for doing that, but I had to say "to each their own".

On the other hand, when I get good service and good food, we generally over tip. We once tipped 50% on a bill at one of my favorite restaurants because they had great service and great food. Usually we leave a ~30% tip for one of our friends when we go eat at the restaurant where he's a bartender (he usually always gives us free drinks while we're there).
post #15 of 51
Thread Starter 
Tipping in general is a whole different discussion! I personally think restaurants should raise their wages and their prices and just say, "No tipping."
post #16 of 51
Maybe she meant to give you ten back. I used to do that when I was in a rush, just give a dollar back instead of like 78 cents or something. But if I though she'd done it on purpose I would have asked for the 63 cents back and not left her anything. That's very presumptuous of her.
post #17 of 51
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Tipping in general is a whole different discussion! I personally think restaurants should raise their wages and their prices and just say, "No tipping."
I agree. I work in the food industry and I don't get tips, so why should some people that do pretty much the same thing I do?
post #18 of 51
I dont care about the 20 % tipping rule. I base my tipping upon the service i recieve, and if she would have took it upon herself not to give me my change like that, i dont care how good the service was she would have gotten nothing.

One thing i think is totally wrong is when you pay the bill and the waitress says, would you like change??? If i owned a restaraunt i would have my waitresses say i'll be right back with your change. That leaves an open door for the customer to say no honey you keep the change.

I usually am a very good tipper tho. I dont have many problems with servers. If they bring something that isnt right im very polite and thats not their fault. I dont believe in ever being rude because they get enough of that. I usually end up leaving more than 20%.

Its very rare they get me that mad.
post #19 of 51
I once left a penny for a tip.

Me and my (now ex) hubby were at a truck stop late at nite. We were obviously a couple, holding hands, etc.. but the waitress pretty much ignored me and flirted with my hubby.

So I left a penny..

Funny thing was, it was late at nite.. there was an older guy cleaning floors and bussing tables.. he was abit, er, "slow".. he saw us leaving the penny for a tip and thought it was funny.. he picked the penny up, held it up in the air, and said out loud to the waitress "Here's your TIP! YOU GOT A PENNY!"..

We actually gave the fella a few bucks for a tip.. he was working hard and doing a good job keeping things clean... darn waitress was too interested in flirting with the truckers, and hinting about other ways she could earn some "tips".
post #20 of 51
I think NZ/Australia has the right attitude when it comes to tips - people don't tip here. I've never left a tip nor have I ever known anyone has left a tip.
post #21 of 51
I would have still tipped over that kind of change because you dont know what the intention was at all. It as just .63. If she was assuming that was her tip, she sure wasnt asking for much. I would have tipped her and tipped her good, if her service was good.

Now if if someone kept 40.00 from 100 of a 60.00 tab, I would have certainly asked for my change, without a doubt.
post #22 of 51
I (or my husband) probably would have not left a tip. We also have no problem leaving little or no tip for a crappy server. We tip based on the type of service we get, and I prefer to tip on the heavy side (20%+) so if a server doesn't get a tip at all that says something.
post #23 of 51
If she's a waitress, she knows money and wouldn't 'accidently' give you the wrong change back. I agree, I give tips according to the service. If it's good, 20% if it's not great, a whole lot less and if the waitress is rude or really bad I make it a point to leave my 2 cents for her.


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post #24 of 51
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Tipping in general is a whole different discussion! I personally think restaurants should raise their wages and their prices and just say, "No tipping."
I completely agree with this!!
I would have still tipped though, even tho it's kind of tactless of her to assume she was getting a tip. It wasn't a big amount though...
I had a job as a waitress the summer before going to college and only lasted one week. It wasn't worth getting barely more than minimum wage. I went to work at pizza hut answering phones and got about $2 more than minimum wage (about $7 per hour, minimum wage was $5.15 then)
The thing that really annoyed me when i worked as a waitress was that, some people assumed that I would do a service for free, that i would bring food to their table and not get paid because that's pretty much what happens when they don't tip..If they dont' want to tip they should just go to a self service restaurant. I was making $2 per hour and the way I see it- the restaurant pretty much pays their wait staff for the amount of service they do at the restaurant- such as making coffee, iced tea, little chores waiters have aside from waiting tables. The customer pays for their service through the tip, and for it to be voluntary is totally unfair. Now that i've had the experience of being a waitress, I tip about 25% and a minimum of $5 no matter how much my bill is. My boyfriend is even more generous, he used to be a manager at a restaurant. Yesterday when we ate out he gave a $15 tip for a $45 bill.
post #25 of 51
I forgot to mention: I saw that a lot of people wrote that they would not tip if the service is crappy. Don't forget though, a lot of times the crappy service is not the waiter's fault. A lot of people get mad that their food arrives too late, but that's entirely the kitchen staff's fault, and not giving a tip only hurts the waiter while the cooks still enjoy their hourly salary. Again, totally unfair.
post #26 of 51
I would have left her another couple of dollars for a tip so she'd have $2.63 because that is easiest. I don't really care if she assumes some change as a tip, that doesn't bother me at all.
post #27 of 51
i'd've done the same as you, Mike - i hate it when assumptions of what i want to tip are made!
that said - i usually write in the tip on my receipt - i usually pay by card, not cash.
post #28 of 51
Thread Starter 
I know truck stop waitresses who make more than the truckers they're serving. And I know some who are starving, deservedly.

When we go on vacation, we usually go on a cruise. When we come back, we feel like standing on the table and shouting, "What's the problem here?!? You give us good food and good service, and we'll voluntarily give you money, even extra money! Don't you want our money?"

But I HAVE had to call waitresses over and explain that if the restaurant is giving her $2 an hour, and she expects to make another $8 an hour in tips, she's working for the customers, not the restaurant, and any lame excuse over anything will cut into any tip she might have earned. Some of them just flat need to starve out of the business, the sooner the better.
post #29 of 51
Things have changed recently, when I was working as a waitress we were charged taxes on an extrapolated amount of tips we supposedly made- and a lot of times i made less than that. It used to be, declaring taxes was up to the individual, the restaurant let their staff deal with it on their own because it's the waiter's responsibility not the restaurant. I dunno how this law came about but it's senseless, and that makes it impossible to make anything above $7-8 per hour. I cant imagine a waitress making more than a truck driver, unless it's at a fancy restaurant that is very busy and includes gratuity in the bill. Places where on average, people pay $10-$15 for their lunch, being a waitress is a minimum wage job, unless the waitress gets special treatment from managers, giving her more tables, etc. Because not having enough tables is the major problem.
post #30 of 51
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
I forgot to mention: I saw that a lot of people wrote that they would not tip if the service is crappy. Don't forget though, a lot of times the crappy service is not the waiter's fault. A lot of people get mad that their food arrives too late, but that's entirely the kitchen staff's fault, and not giving a tip only hurts the waiter while the cooks still enjoy their hourly salary. Again, totally unfair.

Oops, sorry I said 'service'. The tips I give are meant for the waiter/waitress service only. If the food stinks but the waitress is good, I will still tip 20%. I have been served by exceptional waitresses and also some really rude ones.
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