Woo hoo! Figured out multi-quote!
Originally Posted by Natalie_ca
And it takes just as long for the mom to get up and go and find a quiet corner away from people and do it privately and discretely.
I work in women and child and have to help some new moms learn to pump. So far I've never not had someone be able to pump enough milk.
I still don't approve of public breast feeding. Never will no matter how people try to rationalize their reasons.
*Raises hand* I'm not able to pump enough milk. I can easily meet my sons need if he drinks right from the breast, but with pumping... well, it would have been an uphill battle. (My son was exclusively breastfed until he was 7 months old. It wasn't until he turned 1 that he started eating any substantial amount of solids. Now, at 20months of age, he nurses 4 or 5 times a day (in public, too!) and once or twice during the night. He *NEVER* took a bottle, as many babies won't.)
I feel bad for the women you work with. You obviously don't understand the milk-making process. Some moms can pump with ease and are able to make bfing work w/little trouble. Others, like I imagine would have been my case if I had had to go back to work full-time, will struggle to pump enough milk for their children. Pumping just isn't as effective as nursing... I imagine that's b/c one occurs as is naturally intended and the other is an artificial replication.
Originally Posted by Skippymjp
I've learned a lot following this thread myself
I was always under the impression that the "feeding zones" some places have was for the sake of the mother's privacy and a having a quiet, comfortable place to feed their baby. I never realized that some of those zones were created just to "get them out of sight"...and that is just sad.
I think babies are cool
Babies *are* cool. And, in most instances you're right."Mothers' Rooms" or "Nursing Rooms" are there to provide a quiet, comfy place for mom to feed her baby if she chooses. The end of the sentence is key though, Mike..."if she chooses." In most states it's illegal to require/force a woman to retreat to a back room or to cover herself while breastfeeding her child. It's a protected right.
Originally Posted by calico2222
And everyone else in the restaurant has a RIGHT to enjoy their meal and not be made to feel uncomfortable because someone is too rude to take other people's feelings into consideration. 1 person breastfeeding, 20 people complaining. This is a democracy, majority rules at least in that case.
As I said before, even descreet breastfeeding makes me uncomfortable but that is MY hang up, and I would never say anything. BUT, IMO there is NO excuse for someone to bare their entire breast in the middle of a restaurant. If she knew she couldn't cover up she should have gone to a corner or a private place to feed her baby. There is no reason for an 11 year old boy to see that if his parents didn't want him to. Does society have hang ups? Yes, but that comes with living in a society.
Well, it's not really majority rule, is it? Me and 20 of my bfing friends can't go out to eat and insist that the formula feeding mom go someplace "private" b/c the sight of her feeding crap to her precious child makes us uncomfortable, can we? And, as I stated, in all but 10 (?) states, breastfeeding in public is a protected right and asking the mom to move or cover up is against the law.
Your opinion that there is NO need for a woman to expose her breast while bfing shows you neither have any experience in the area, nor have you ever given the issue much thought. Some women *Need* to have a clear view of themselves to get their babies latched on. And again I say, this is *especially* true for new bfing moms-the ones who need the most support.
And, perhaps if said 11 year old boy saw more women bfing, he would grow up w/an appreciation and respect for women's bodies instead of growing up and oogling women and their breasts.
Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I'm not comfortable with it, and my reasoning is hard to explain. Or should I say my explanation will probably be misunderstood or might be taken as an insult. Perhaps I like to see the world through Rose Coloured Glasses, but I don't like to be reminded that we are mammels or just mere animals. I like to think of humans as something different from the the animals. To see a woman breast feeding just shows me that we are basically no different, and not superior in any way. I personally would never breast feed at home or in public. I just don't want to think of myself as no different from a cow. Now please don't take offence because I don't mean it that way. It's my own personal hang up, and you asked opinions, so I'm trying to be honest. I could lie and be politically correct, and say it doesn't offend me at all, or I could be truthful. I'm trying to be truthful here, and give my honest feelings. I just don't like the thought of breast feeding anywhere, any time. I don't know why it doesn't bother me when I see animals do it, except maybe perhaps, they are animals, and I don't like to think of we humans as animals. I like to think of us as being above nature, not a part of nature.
I also don't see how one can bond more with a baby by allowing it to suckle on the breast than by feeding it a bottle, and having it look loving up in to your eyes while it feeds. I've bottle fed babies before and I've seen that loving look, and I just don't understand why breast feeding is so necessary. I do understand however that breast milk is supposed to be healthier for a baby, but I'm sorry, I wish I felt differently, but I'm just not comfortable with it at all.
Well, in this case, Hope, the human race is a bit worse than animals. You don't see cows supplementing their calves w/cat's milk, do you? And, while I do respect your opinion (if not find it a bit ridiculous), comparing breastfeeding mothers to cows is pretty far off the mark. Women aren't "milked" the way cows are. We're not pumped full of hormones and attached to machines all so that a *different* species can enjoy our milk. We feed our children w/our breasts. It's what they were intended to do.
And, no one said that you can't bond with a baby who is bottle fed. You can. It happens all the time. However, the bonding that comes with breastfeeding is different. Babies and children suckle not only for food, but for comfort. It's a great way to reconnect after a particularly rough day or a nasty fall. And "spposed to be healthier" might just be the understatement of the year
... And that's just one source.