Originally Posted by Dragoriana
Cocoa Cream, i was going to rant, but instead i'll make it nice and quick.
First, It still surprises me that the extreme christians still look down on other christians who don't label themselves as boldly.
Alot of people do not choose to 'reject' god or jesus. Their minds & hearts have probably already been down that path & given it a try. People do not walk around yelling 'we CHOOSE not to believe in god/jesus', because it's something that develops over time & experience. It isn't a choice.
Why do people make a point of saying that their god gave everyone free will, & everyone has the choice to believe or not, but then they have to tell us that we are lost & need to be lead to god? That's kind of a double standard isn't it?
A point i'd like to make is this, those who are 'without god' are just as moral human beings as those who are.
That being said, if being 'lost' in other peoples eyes, means that i am on a path where i have the freedom to express myself without fear or judgment, so mote it be.
No offence. Rant over.
I'm not offended, and I did read your unedited post before, actually. I know that my beliefs can be viewed, even by other professing Christians, to be "extreme." And I was not being judgmental in my observation about the others who call themselves Christians, but do not state their beliefs as boldy as I do mine...I was simply pointing out that I find it interesting how general the term "Christian" has come to be, especially considering the roots of the word. The original term "Christian" meant "little Christs" in Greek and was used to make fun of the Jews and Greeks who believed that Jesus was the Messiah (the Christ, in Greek) and sought to live as He taught. It was used to ridicule the most devout believers, not merely to identify people who belong to a certain denomination or believe in God. I don't look down on other people who do not believe what I do, I simply wanted to clarify what I personally believe, rather than just use a common label.
Perhaps you feel that "reject" is too strong a term, but I think what you said above would still have the same general definition. You say that you and others have "given it a try" but decided it wasn't for you. That sounds like a choice to me, even if made over a long period of time through many experiences. To use a poor analogy, I have "rejected" being a coffee-drinker in that I have tried it many times throughout my life, tried different flavors and different styles, but it just wasn't for me. I could keep trying it, and maybe I'd eventually develop a taste for the stuff, but I "choose" not to. Like I said, it's a poor analogy, but maybe it helps get the idea across.
And I do believe God gave everyone free will to choose, but I don't quite see what that has to do with my belief that people who do not believe in Christ are lost. That's what His Word teaches me, and I am compelled to tell others, whether they want to hear it or not. You do have the choice to listen to what I say or not...but Jesus told His followers not to stop telling people about Him. I could exercise my own free will and disobey Him, or can do as He said and tell everyone I can.
To sum it all up, I don't pretend to be any better or more moral than anyone else. I do things I shouldn't on a regular basis, and I have to go to God over and over again and admit that I haven't followed Him completely. There is no perfection this side of heaven, I know. But I have hope because I know what my future is, and that is something to live for. I know that everyone has to decide what they believe on their own, but that doesn't mean I stop telling other people what I believe any more than you do. I thought that since everyone from pagan to agnostic to atheistic could openly state their personal beliefs here, then I could too...not to debate, but to share my own viewpoint. I hope that's okay!