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post #31 of 48
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Originally Posted by twstychik View Post
Good point! To him and every one behind him it was the right way.
He was our leader at the time after all......
post #32 of 48
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Depends on where you are standing whether it's backward or not.
Maybe it's a metaphor: It looks right to him, but wrong to the rest of the world.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
God bless George Bush, I think his enthusiasm and getting up hefting that flag at the Olympics was endearing, at least it was to me. Bless his heart, I will miss that man. He followed his conscience.
I agree with this. He has a child-like happiness in this photo, and it is endearing, whatever my yours his or her opinion of him may be.

The same goes for his misstatements- they're funny whatever my yours his or her opinion of him may be.

It isn't a cheap jab at him; he said those things, and they're incredibly silly things for the leader of a world power to have said. If Obama (who has nothing to do with this thread) had said them, they would be equally funny.
post #34 of 48
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Originally Posted by Going Nova View Post
If Obama (who has nothing to do with this thread) had said them, they would be equally funny.
But unfortunately, I believe they wouldn't make the papers, or at least not nearly as widespread.
post #35 of 48
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Originally Posted by emrldsky View Post
But unfortunately, I believe they wouldn't make the papers, or at least not nearly as widespread.
"Green behind the ears" got a lot of print.
post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
"Green behind the ears" got a lot of print.
This is the first I heard of it. And I even read Fox news (don't beat me up!).
post #37 of 48
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Originally Posted by emrldsky View Post
This is the first I heard of it. And I even read Fox news (don't beat me up!).
He said it during the second presidential debate. Green behind the ears
Here it is on YouTube:Obama on Speaking Softly and Pakistan
post #38 of 48
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But unfortunately, I believe they wouldn't make the papers, or at least not nearly as widespread.
If there isn't a thread about his misstatements at the end of his term, I'll look them up and make one! I think he's tried to tell jokes in his speeches, but they aren't really funny.



OK, you got me started... One of the funny things he said was, to a crowd of farmers in Iowa, “Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?†I really doubt the rural farmers peruse the trendy organic food market that caters to yuppies!
post #39 of 48
You might be surprised. A lot of farmers are finding that they can do less work, raise less food, and make more money if they find some sort of niche market.

One big thing I missed about Bill Clinton is that, even when he was speaking extemporaneously, you could diagram his sentences. Not a skill Obama has, by the way. Off the teleprompter, he quickly dissolves into sentences that would embarass Clinton or Bush.
post #40 of 48
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Not a skill Obama has, by the way. Off the teleprompter, he quickly dissolves into sentences that would embarass Clinton or Bush.
That must be a matter of perception. He seemed to do well without a teleprompter during the presidential debates and interviews. It's rather odd than only his hardline opponents parrot that line, while most supporters and neutral parties have praised his eloquence.
post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Yale (Bachelor's in history) and Harvard (M.B.A.), no less. He was a so-called "legacy student" at Yale - it's a lot easier to get in when your father, grandfather, and great-great grandfather are/were alumni.
And his grades at Yale were better than Gore's.
post #42 of 48
And, of course, Obama has done one thing for the entertainers of America. He's given us a Vice President who seems to channel Dan Quayle.
post #43 of 48
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That must be a matter of perception. He seemed to do well without a teleprompter during the presidential debates and interviews. It's rather odd than only his hardline opponents parrot that line, while most supporters and neutral parties have praised his eloquence.
Surely you jest.

(You know,) he's not as bad as (you know) Caroline Kennedy, but I can't bear to listen to him when he's off the teleprompter. He has so many incomplete sentences, he stops and starts as his thought process is completing. And the "uh,uh uh" is a huge no-no in public speaking.

Maybe if he'd actually been a trial lawyer he might speak better. At least Bush wasn't expected to, so I don't see how people are so disappointed in him. He never claimed to be some great speaker, yet BHO should be, since he's made a career of speaking either as a committee member, organizer, etc.
post #44 of 48
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
And his grades at Yale were better than Gore's.
Oh, I'm sure he must have cheated mrblance, he just couldn't be smarter than Algore.
post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
That must be a matter of perception. He seemed to do well without a teleprompter during the presidential debates and interviews. It's rather odd than only his hardline opponents parrot that line, while most supporters and neutral parties have praised his eloquence.
It truly is a matter of perception because in my mind, my dogs can speak more eloquently than Barack. I will admit he got better during the debates though.

But I keep having this sneaking feeling he has a bug in his ear with someone on the other end telling him exactly what to say.
post #46 of 48
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
That must be a matter of perception. He seemed to do well without a teleprompter during the presidential debates and interviews. It's rather odd than only his hardline opponents parrot that line, while most supporters and neutral parties have praised his eloquence.
Of course he did well during the debates. He was well-rehearsed with prepared answers.

I've also noticed the "uh, uh, uh..." thing. Additionally, Obama has a bad habit of drawing out the word "aaaand" and using it frequently.

One of the participants at a dinner Obama gave for a small group of conservative commentators and writers remarked that Obama is more eloquent in private than in public, displaying none of the occasional awkwardness and verbal tics we see in his off the cuff remarks in public. I've heard the exact same thing said about George Bush. At off-the-record gatherings between Bush and commentators, he has been said to speak a good hour without one "uh" or "ummm". They marveled at how articulate he really was.
post #47 of 48
most people speak more easily when not on camera or put on the spot. also, the way in which we speak is, in large part, due to the speech we grew up with, heard around us as children.

my students often have difficulty using correct language, not only in speaking but in writing. they have a tendency to use what educated people would consider poor grammar, etc. this is what they hear, day in & day out [the majority of my students are from the lower socio-economic status families - a fact that, sadly, is often true of those in special education].

when i was in grade school, i rarely had difficulty with creating sentences in which the subject/verb agreement was incorrect. this is not because of formal education, but because my family, for the most part, spoke correctly.

a formal education doesn't change the habits of a lifetime.
post #48 of 48
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
You might be surprised. A lot of farmers are finding that they can do less work, raise less food, and make more money if they find some sort of niche market.
Yes, but here's no Whole Foods Market in Iowa.
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