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Pelosi overturns century-old house rules

post #1 of 14
1/8/09 at 3:33pm
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Looks like the Democrats are set to take away all our rights. This country is going down the tubes for good now
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/pel...07/168712.html
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The move, which Pelosi engineered, “silences the voices of tens of millions of Americans by further shutting down open debate on the House floor and taking away the minority’s right to offer substantive policy alternatives on behalf of the millions of Americans they represent,” Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio complained.
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post #2 of 14
1/8/09 at 3:58pm
Pelosi is, was and will always be a turd. It's a shame the minority party can't filibuster in the House like they are able to in the Senate. She's an arrogant, power hungry, vindictive witch.
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post #3 of 14
1/8/09 at 4:50pm
Honestly, I am so fed up with our government. We pay these politicians to take away our rights and steal our money. The people of this country really need to stand up and take their Country back before it's to late.
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post #4 of 14
1/8/09 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
Honestly, I am so fed up with our government. We pay these politicians to take away our rights and steal our money. The people of this country really need to stand up and take their Country back before it's to late.
Government by the people for the people, is slowly turning into government by the government, for the government. I'm waiting for the "Let them eat cake." comment. Which sounds like something Pelosi would say.
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post #5 of 14
1/8/09 at 5:32pm
There are things happening that are pretty scary right now. I work at a company that supplies guns and ammo I have been noticing that bulk ammunition is almost impossible for customers to get and is on backorder until unknown date. I had a customer ask me the other day if it was the government doing this, don't take away the guns but make ammo impossible to get. It's a good question..

Please, I didn't bring this up for a gun debate so lets not start on that.
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post #6 of 14
1/8/09 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
There are things happening that are pretty scary right now. I work at a company that supplies guns and ammo I have been noticing that bulk ammunition is almost impossible for customers to get and is on backorder until unknown date. I had a customer ask me the other day if it was the government doing this, don't take away the guns but make ammo impossible to get. It's a good question..

Please, I didn't bring this up for a gun debate so lets not start on that.
That is indeed possible, but commercial muntions manufacturers are also suppliers to military ammuntion contracts. And the military is no doubt burning through ammuniton at an astounding rate. My guess is that they are seeing to their most lucrative (military) contracts first.
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post #7 of 14
1/8/09 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
There are things happening that are pretty scary right now. I work at a company that supplies guns and ammo I have been noticing that bulk ammunition is almost impossible for customers to get and is on backorder until unknown date. I had a customer ask me the other day if it was the government doing this, don't take away the guns but make ammo impossible to get. It's a good question..

Please, I didn't bring this up for a gun debate so lets not start on that.
Certainly works around the Second Amendment, doesn't it? You can own a gun, just no bullets.

Pelosi is a power-hungry loon. And this Country just got handed to her on a platter. Anyone who didn't vote to stop this gets whatever they deserve, unfortunately people who voted against it will suffer right next to them.
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post #8 of 14
1/8/09 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
Certainly works around the Second Amendment, doesn't it? You can own a gun, just no bullets.

Pelosi is a power-hungry loon. And this Country just got handed to her on a platter. Anyone who didn't vote to stop this gets whatever they deserve, unfortunately people who voted against it will suffer right next to them.
If there is anything to it, that is. Ammunition manufacturers are trying to supply the US military, probably the Israeli IDF, and a nation full of deer hunters in the middle of deer season at the moment. Primers, propellants and components can only be made so fast. Being unable to order case lots of ammuntion doesn't keep people from buying a 20-50 round box of ammuniton at every store in town that carries it, every day. A significant number of shooters load their own as well.
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post #9 of 14
1/8/09 at 9:03pm
The cost of .308 and 7.62mm ammunition has been going up for a while with the M14 rifle seeing more and more service in Iraq and Aghanistan. Hasn't the price of .223 ammo (M-16, M-4, M249 SAW) also gone up? Some of it has to do with military need.

I bought a couple of 400 round ammo cans with .30-06 a while back for $200, but the military doesn't use .30-06 anymore.
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post #10 of 14
1/9/09 at 4:25am
The price has been going up big time. The .223 ammo in bulk has been hard to get for awhile. Now it's pretty much across the board that all bulk ammo is on back order. It's going to interesting to see if the supplies for reloading start getting difficult to get. I don't get many calls for powder because my company charges a 20.00 hazard fee for shipping. You can buy little boxes of ammo but the cost is terrible if your a sports shooter.

Neetanddave:I agree, making ammo impossible to get will work around our 2nd ammendment rights!

It's scary...
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post #11 of 14
1/9/09 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
There are things happening that are pretty scary right now. I work at a company that supplies guns and ammo I have been noticing that bulk ammunition is almost impossible for customers to get and is on backorder until unknown date. I had a customer ask me the other day if it was the government doing this, don't take away the guns but make ammo impossible to get. It's a good question..

Please, I didn't bring this up for a gun debate so lets not start on that.
How would the government restrict the manufacture of ammo? Not trying to debate but I really don't see how they could do it. If there is a demand and profit to be made that I am sure the manufacturer are working as hard as they can to fill the orders. I don't see this as a government thing as much as it is a supply thing.
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post #12 of 14
1/9/09 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
Certainly works around the Second Amendment, doesn't it? You can own a gun, just no bullets.

Pelosi is a power-hungry loon. And this Country just got handed to her on a platter. Anyone who didn't vote to stop this gets whatever they deserve, unfortunately people who voted against it will suffer right next to them.

Yep, who penned the saying, "In a Democracy, we get the government we deserve"? or something like that.
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post #13 of 14
1/9/09 at 2:29pm
Every time she's on TV she has that air of smug arrogance around her. It makes me want to put my foot through the screen.

Same with Harry Reid and Barney Frank. Frank has no business railing on anybody regarding the economic mess the country is in. He's part of the problem but that's a different thread.

Buffoons, all of them.
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post #14 of 14
1/9/09 at 3:03pm
I agree, those three are the absolute worst, Pelosi, Reid and Barney Franks.
They make my head explode.
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