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We have two hamsters over for the Hannukah holiday week. They usually live in my son's kindergarten, but we volunteered to take them over for a week.

I really didn't know anything about hamsters. Only knew I like all furry critters, so why not?

They arrived in a fairly dirty cage, with rodent poop mixed all over the sawdust, and a plastic cup with some disgusting looking pellets for their food. They had no names, and the staff doesn't even know what sex they are. Turns out they were given to the kindergarten but the kids aren't too enthusiastic and neither is anyone else. Basically, the staff just throws in their food, adding the occasional piece of vegetable, and makes sure they have drinking water.

Well, that didn't sound right to me. Plus, no animal can possibly like to live in such a dirty cage... I wanted to take them out and noticed right away that one of them was totally terrified. It would squeal and curl away as I tried to touch it. It didn't take long to see why either
as soon as I put it back into the cage, the other one began chasing it around, literally driving it up on the walls of the cage. You know, it just didn't look like playing...

I checked on the internet and sure enough, hamsters are solitary animals and don't tolerate another hamster in their cage... So, off I went to get them another cage, clean bedding and better food.

A couple of hours and $40 later, they were separated into clean cages, with cool little plastic "homes" and better food. I figured I better introduce the new food gradually, but they just wouldn't touch the old stuff now that they had natural yummy hamster food.

We've been taking them out everyday too, into a makeshift playground I made them, where I hide the yummy food and let them "forage" for it. Once they fill up their cheek pouches, I get them back into their cage, where they apparently stock it up into their little homes.

They're both so much relaxed now. The bullied one is actually fatter already, and lets us handle him or her without a problem (can't tell which, but I now think they're both females).

Made me think just how important knowledge and education are when it comes to pet care. It really isn't that difficult to make a pet's life good, if you know how. On the other hand, you may like animals, but you can easily turn their world into a terrible place just by doing something as simple as putting two loners into the same cage.

Anyway, makes me feel all good and warm inside seeing them so happy now. Here are a couple of pictures (hotlinked from my blog post about them here):



 

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Sounds like you are doing a fantastic job with them! Do you have a wheel in the cage for them? That is the only other thing I would suggest. Oh, and also some type of mineral lick.

Just like in cats, boy hamsters have extra parts.


They are both really, really cute.
 
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Thanks guys
I swear I spend more time with them than the kids do - they really are cute.

By the way, the cats couldn't care less about them. Mishmish was the only one who showed some interest on the first day, sitting on top of the TV next to the cages and keeping watch for about an hour. Then she tired of it and doesn't pay them any more attention. The other two just don't see them, even when we hold them outside the cage. Needless to say, no matter what, there will never ever be any direct interaction between the cats and the hamsters.

It does make me appreciate the company of cats as pets even more though, having a big tabby purring away on my wrist as I type - none of the hamster ever does that!


Originally Posted by AbbysMom

Sounds like you are doing a fantastic job with them! Do you have a wheel in the cage for them? That is the only other thing I would suggest. Oh, and also some type of mineral lick.
Oh, definitely a wheel in each cage! And if we ever get a hamster of our own, it will only be when we can afford one of those huge fancy cages with tunnels too


As for the mineral stone, I read all sorts of things about them. Some hamster experts recommend them while others say to stay away. Since they now have rich and varied food, I figured they would be better off without these. Could be wrong though.

Originally Posted by AbbysMom

Just like in cats, boy hamsters have extra parts.
Well, then just like small kittens, those extra parts can be hard to detect
It's something to do with the distance between the sex opening and the anus, but my inexperienced eye really can't tell with these two.
 

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I love hamsters. I have had many. My last hamster, I had a little litter box. and a scoop. That little guy always used his litter box
. His cage was so easy to clean, and it didn't smell either. I just wished they lived longer.
 

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Originally Posted by Anne

Well, then just like small kittens, those extra parts can be hard to detect
It's something to do with the distance between the sex opening and the anus, but my inexperienced eye really can't tell with these two.
The hamsters in your photo don't look young enough to have difficult-to-detect male parts. Due to that I would guess they are probably females, because trust me you would KNOW if you had males once they hit about a month old...they get quite a bump back there. Here is a site with pics if you need help determining gender: http://www.hamster-heaven.com/sexing.html

Syrian hamsters (the ones you have) were my first non-cold-blooded pets as a child that were actually mine and not a family pet like the dogs. I've had more hamsters than I could count, (probably 100+) thanks in part to my not knowing about them being solitary in the beginning.
The more you handle them the more tame they will be. My first hamster was the offspring of the classroom pets in my science class and after that the numbers went up pretty quickly. I think I had a strange genetic quirk or something in the beginning because I had up to 6 hamsters living together peacefully in my first years of having hamsters. They were all descended from a few hamsters I got from a friend who also had multiple hamsters who lived together peacefully (and the classroom pet offspring). This was very unusual, Syrian hamsters are normally very hostile to other hamsters and will even kill each other. Unfortunately a lot of pet stores won't tell people that which bothers me a lot!
Personally I've only gotten 3 hamsters from pet stores over the years, the rest were either from friends or in more recent years from shelters and rescues. I found out that the animal control in our city will euthanized hamsters they get because they don't have housing for them so there are 2 rescues in the area who routinely take any that animal control gets and find them homes. I've also gotten two from classified ads where people couldn't keep them. I really enjoy them as pets, they are very sweet once you tame them and fun to watch. I haven't had any in a few years because I've had pet rats. My favorite are the tortoiseshell/calico hamsters!
 
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Thanks for all the info and links! Looks like ours are indeed females then!

I think they are sweet and facsinating animals, actually. I know I will definitely push towards us keeping one of them, or possibly getting one of our own. Don't tell my husband, but I actually browsed some local "craiglists" yesterday and saw there are quite a few hamsters in need of good homes out there... so maybe?

I am really pleased with how the cats don't seem attracted to them as prey (or as anything). When they get to the window next to the hamsters, they get busy watching the view and don't pay attention to the rodents. Makes me feel a bit safer about having a hamster. It's not that I intend to ever let them play together, it just feels safer knowing the cats won't bother them while in their cage. The hamsters seem totally cool about the cats too - they just go on with their business and ignore the cats entirely.
 
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Oh, and just had to add. I've seen pet rats in need of a home and I wonder if maybe that would be a good option for us too. I think they are smarter, right? I need to do some reading on pet rats.
 

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The only problem I see with Hamsters is their short lifespan... They live 1-2 years, at the most 3... I had them when I was younger, and it was hard to deal with the deaths
... and oh boy... they bread like crazy!
 

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Yes, rats are very smart. Some people say they are as smart as dogs. You can train them to do tricks and come when called. They can also be taught to use a litterbox which makes cage cleaning easier. My rats love to ride around on my shoulder. Another nice thing about rats vs. hamsters is I can let the rats run around on a table or desk to play and they won't try to jump off. The hamsters will go right to the edge and jump off if you don't watch them (no matter the height!)

My younger cats like to watch the rats but they never bother them, just sit and watch them outside the cage. The rats don't mind. Here's a video of Church watching and the rats checking him out:
 
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Thanks for the link - Lovely critters you have there!

I went on exploring related videos and came across this one -

Is that cute or what? I think I'm going to feature this one on the TCS blog
 

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Aww they are so adorable!! I had one that was the same color as the first one- golden banded. I loved her so much, she was amazing!! It makes me sad that they had put them together in a cage, they could have killed each other from fighting
...But carolinalima is right- their lifespan is too short.. My little Miller lived 2 years, and then she died very suddenly after a trip to the ER vet...It's still better to have them as short as their lives are though..
 
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Well, as often happens, this trigerred a website
I just bought http://www.teddy-bear-hamsters.com and will work on the content over the next few weeks. If anyone has hamster pictures to share (Syrians only, not dwarf), please send them on to me anne at thecatsite.com - thanks!
 

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Oh I have tons of hamster photos!
Feel free to use any of my hamster pics you want Anne as long as you have some kind of note somewhere on the site that they are from me (Lizzi K or chicagocanine.com)

You can find them here:
http://www.chicagocanine.com/hamsters/

Most of those photos are Syrians, I think there are a few of a dwarf hamster, they start with "cinn" because the hamster's name was Cinnamon Bunzz


Here's another cute pic that was not in that directory:




Oh I also have a few with my dog:
http://www.chicagocanine.com/dogtemp/ginham2.jpg
http://www.chicagocanine.com/dogtemp/ginham1.jpg
http://www.chicagocanine.com/dogtemp/ginmarsh.jpg
 
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Thank you! Some good pictures there! I will drop you a note once the site is ready and I'll be sure to credit any of the pictures I'll end up using and link to you from the links page too - thanks again!
 

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We have had 2 hamster both were Russian dwarfs. The first one we got from the local flea market and she was a sweetheart! Her name was Toni:


and she LOVED the little wooden chew sticks. She would go through those like nothing!
And then our second one was a winter white and she was evil. She came from petsmart and liked to chop my fingers... loved my boyfriend though!


I hope you get to keep one or get one for yourselves! They make adorable pets! And ours always had such personality!
Also as for the big cages, we found 2 huge ones at the flea market for $10. We just made sure to clean it out really really well and both of ours loved it!
 
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