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post #31 of 40
1/21/09 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by PookieBoy View Post
The following is a video & transcript from the Jon Stewart Show this monday past. It's HILARIOUS!!

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Stewar...exit_0120.html
That was hilarious!!!
Didn't foresee the economic meltdown? Underestimated the degree to which the Iraqi people were downtrodden???
Gee, Mr. Cheney- you were VP of the USA and you couldn't bother to watch "TimeBomb"??? You don't bother to check out alternative media and see the realities of what the Iraqi people are going through now -when before our invasion Iraq had the best medical care system of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries and now is 3rd-World level so, he didn't bother to watch LinkTV or FSTV and get informed.....
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post #32 of 40
1/21/09 at 6:28pm
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That was hilarious!!!
Didn't foresee the economic meltdown? Underestimated the degree to which the Iraqi people were downtrodden???
Gee, Mr. Cheney- you were VP of the USA and you couldn't bother to watch "TimeBomb"??? You don't bother to check out alternative media and see the realities of what the Iraqi people are going through now -when before our invasion Iraq had the best medical care system of the Middle Eastern Islamic countries and now is 3rd-World level so, he didn't bother to watch LinkTV or FSTV and get informed.....
Oh, I know, I know, that Sadaam knew how to treat his people. I'm sure they would love him to be back, raping, torturing, commiting genocide, mass graves. Ahhh for the good old days.

I know, Congress and everyone but the Bush administration saw the economic melt down coming years ago.

Ahh, that hindsight and Monday morning morning quarterbacks, you gotta love them too.
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post #33 of 40
1/21/09 at 6:41pm
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Oh, I know, I know, that Sadaam knew how to treat his people. I'm sure they would love him to be back, raping, torturing, commiting genocide, mass graves. Ahhh for the good old days.

I know, Congress and everyone but the Bush administration saw the economic melt down coming years ago.

Ahh, that hindsight and Monday morning morning quarterbacks, you gotta love them too.
Dick Cheney was is a war-monger:
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1117-22.htm
And if you look past the mainstream media, you will see those crimes still being perpetrated today, including by Americans Look at footage taken of Iraqi newborns dying in hospitals AFTER we took over "rebuilding" their country...it's there, both on satellite TV and in the internet....don't just trust some standard, mainstream media...but be warned, it isn't for the faint-hearted...and unfortunately, it IS very, very real.....this isn't Monday-morning quarterbacking - it's understanding what real life is and appreciating the courage and fortitude of those who go into those awful scenes, despite the horrific sounds, sights & smells, to deliver hope to the hopeless...
I for one, appreciate such kinds of journalism....
there are valid reasons that the Iraqi people resent their "liberators" - ones that have nothing to do with religion.
And I am glad that Cheney is gone out of office
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post #34 of 40
1/21/09 at 6:52pm
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I trust our military, they know, better than anyone what has been accomplished in Iraq. I will take their word over what the drive by's says any day of the week.
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post #35 of 40
1/22/09 at 3:47pm
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I trust our military, they know, better than anyone what has been accomplished in Iraq. I will take their word over what the drive by's says any day of the week.
I'm not sure where you're getting this supposed information, but perhaps you'd better read what people like former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez have to say, among others.
Official History Spotlights Iraq Rebuilding Blunders


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An unpublished 513-page federal history of the American-led reconstruction of Iraq depicts an effort crippled before the invasion by Pentagon planners who were hostile to the idea of rebuilding a foreign country, and then molded into a $100 billion failure by bureaucratic turf wars, spiraling violence and ignorance of the basic elements of Iraqi society and infrastructure.
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The bitterest message of all for the reconstruction program may be the way the history ends. The hard figures on basic services and industrial production compiled for the report reveal that for all the money spent and promises made, the rebuilding effort never did much more than restore what was destroyed during the invasion and the convulsive looting that followed.
By mid-2008, the history says, $117 billion had been spent on the reconstruction of Iraq, including some $50 billion in United States taxpayer money.
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Titled “Hard Lessons: The Iraq Reconstruction Experience,†the new history was compiled by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, led by Stuart W. Bowen Jr., a Republican lawyer who regularly travels to Iraq and has a staff of engineers and auditors based here.
‘Hard Lessons: The Iraq Reconstruction Experience’
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post #36 of 40
1/22/09 at 6:28pm
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Perhaps you should talk to some of our brave men and women who are actually over there "doing" as Skippy likes to put it.
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post #37 of 40
1/22/09 at 6:33pm
Cheney scrapped the upgrades and revamping of the F-14 Tomcat which would have kept it in service for another 25-30 years. He went with that piece of junk known as the F-18 Super Hornet (also called the "Rhino"). I'll never forgive him for sending the best fighter the Navy has ever had to the grave. The Tomcat would eat the "Rhino" alive.

Somebody, somewhere, probably got a fat and juicy kickback.
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post #38 of 40
1/22/09 at 6:48pm
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My brother was in the Air Force, he used to work on F-4 Phantoms back in the day, he said they were the work horse of the USAF.

Then he went to F16's I think it was, I always get the F15 and F16 mixed up, The F16 was like a different century than the F4
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post #39 of 40
1/22/09 at 6:50pm
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Bryan, I don't understand why some politician sitting in an office in D.C. would even be knowledgeable enough to make that decision. Who talked him into that bone headed move?
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post #40 of 40
1/22/09 at 7:06pm
The defense industry is big, big business. When it comes to getting contracts for new weapons approved, defense contractors aren't shy about lining the pockets of the suits in Washington.

Cheney was SecDef at the time. He made the recommendation to not purchase the D model of the fighter and said it was outdated technology. He initially wanted to upgrade the Tomcat, but in the end he wanted some fancy new advanced tactical fighter (which was also scrapped) to replace the F-14. Congress approved the construction of over 30 more Tomcats but Cheney canceled the Tomcat program not long after they were built.

The main role of the Tomcat was fleet defense. It was the only aircraft in the world equipped with the Phoenix missile system. The Tomcat was a very good dogfighter and upgrades improved its capacity for air-to-ground missions.

The Navy also had F-4s. In fact, the Tomcat replaced the Phantoms in the fleet. The F-15, like the Tomcat, is also an air superiority fighter. The F-16 is a smaller aircraft, single-seater, and is a good multi-purpose aircraft.
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