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post #1 of 34
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Hi -- My kitty is refusing to each anything but tuna and lunch meat, so the vet wants me to try the antacid to see if will help her appetite. Jave any of you used this antacid for your cats? Any luck? My vet is recommending 1/4 of a 10 mg pill. Thanks!
post #2 of 34
Coco takes that because her crf.
I have it compounded into a liquid and it helps.
She started taking it a month ago.
post #3 of 34
Yes I have used it. I have given 1/4 tab 2x a day wheh a stomach is upset.
The vet also has injectable pepcid available but it is a big shot. Make sure it is ac and not plain pepcid
Best of luck
post #4 of 34
many on here have used this drug for the reason your vet suggested it to you... I too found compounding easier
post #5 of 34
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Yes I have used it. I have given 1/4 tab 2x a day wheh a stomach is upset.
The vet also has injectable pepcid available but it is a big shot. Make sure it is ac and not plain pepcid
Best of luck

Hey Ken!

Don't you mean not to use Pepcid "complete" -- that it should only be Pepcid AC (famotidine, which means the generic "famotidine" can be used). The "complete" formula has other ingredients that cats shouldn't have.
post #6 of 34
Coco gets the famotidine compounded.
I paid 33 for it.
post #7 of 34
I give this to my IBD kitty twice daily (1/4 pill at each dose before meals). I have found that when I stop giving it, her appetite declines again so she will likely be on it for life. I don't mind giving it to her at all though as she takes it very easily. My trick is to have her stand in front of me (on a counter) and I gently lift her head back, open her mouth and drop it straight down her throat. It's small enough and falls so far back that she instantly swallows it. I then follow it up with a treat or her canned food so it doesn't get stuck.

I have found that the pepcid works well for improving appetite again, but it takes her about 2 weeks on it to get back to normal. Her symptoms when she doesn't take it are inappetance, hunching after meals and spastic burping. These are all minimized or eliminated when she takes the pepcid twice daily. The other thing I use for naseau is slippery elm bark made into a gruel/syrup. This is basically a liquid bandage for their GI tract, similiar to pepto for us (don't give kitty pepto though!). It works great but since it reduces absorption (give it separately from any meds), I only use it when she's really feeling poorly or completely refusing to eat.

Good luck and I hope it helps your little one as it has mine!
post #8 of 34
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Originally Posted by jem2998 View Post
Hi -- My kitty is refusing to each anything but tuna and lunch meat, so the vet wants me to try the antacid to see if will help her appetite. Jave any of you used this antacid for your cats? Any luck? My vet is recommending 1/4 of a 10 mg pill. Thanks!
I forgot to ask, did your vet do any tests to rule out anything else might be going on with your kitty? Inappetance can mean SO many different things (i.e. CRF, IBD, food allergies) so you want to make sure something more serious than a little extra stomach acidity isn't going on.
post #9 of 34

I had to share this piece of knowledge!!  If your kitty is having issues with his or her Appetite or becoming really finicky eaters; get them a B-12 shot!!  This took the frustration out of our whole world for my kitty and us without having to use drugs!!   

post #10 of 34

I am curious as to why your vet gave her pepcid? Does she have a health issue? If not, medication shouldn't be given just because they're picky. All meds have side effects (although I'm a big fan of pepcid). As some of the others have asked, does she have any health issues at all? Just curious. smile.gif

post #11 of 34
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I am curious as to why your vet gave her pepcid? Does she have a health issue? If not, medication shouldn't be given just because they're picky. All meds have side effects (although I'm a big fan of pepcid). As some of the others have asked, does she have any health issues at all? Just curious. smile.gif


Finn....who are you addressing this question to?  This thread was started in 2008, so the people who were originally posting may not be active anymore!

 

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laughing02.gif I didn't even notice that. Whoopsy! Thanks for telling me. LOL.

post #13 of 34

I am very interested in the B12 option.  My cat too has been throwing up randomly, but frequently.  I have tried about 10 different specialty foods and it only helps for a short time. In fact, he hardly threw up over the winter which led me to believe he may have allergy drainage causing stomach upset.  So then I started giving him allergy meds, but that didn't help.  He WILL NOT take any kind of pill.  I have tried crushing it up in tuna, soft cat food, pill pocket, wrapped in lunch meat, stuffing it down his throat, etc.  I am so frustrated.  What does the B12 shot treat specifically?  Thanks! 

 

 

post #14 of 34

J Steele does your cat have health issues? B12 given usually for anemia, low B12 levels or malabsorption and GI issues.

post #15 of 34

None that can be found.  I had about $500 worth of testing done (blood work, xrays, etc) and everything came up normal.  I was then told he had developed a food allergy and to switch his food.  Which I did, numerous times :( 

 

I am about to take him to another vet, it just doesn't make sense that he has been having these issues for about 2-3 years now and the only thing they can tell me is food allergy. 

post #16 of 34

I wonder if B12 is something that is in the normal blood work test or do I have to ask for a special panel?

post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by J Steele View Post

I wonder if B12 is something that is in the normal blood work test or do I have to ask for a special panel?


It's a separate blood test. Can be a tad expensive (I think I paid around $50) but prices may vary depending on location, etc.

 

I personally don't think testing is necessary. If there are GI issues, B12 injections may help even if serum B12 levels show up as normal.

 

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 I was then told he had developed a food allergy and to switch his food.  Which I did, numerous times :( 

 


What foods have you tried? Sometimes there may be a common ingredient in all of them that you don't notice (like yeast or soy or fish for example) which is triggering a reaction.

 

post #18 of 34

Precious gets 1/4 of a 10mg tablet twice a day when she's not eating well.  Right now she's in her "I'll eat anything" mode, so it's in reserve for when she doesn't feel well and won't eat.  It's a life saver!!

post #19 of 34
A couple of things to keep in mind when using pepcid (famotidine)

It can cause constipation as a side affect and it can cause a vitamin B-12 deficiency.

I agree with trying to find a common ingredient in various brands of food. I discovered I have a cat who cannot tolerate carrageenan. Many canned foods contain this unnecessary ingredient now, and many cats are sensitive to it. Beet pulp is another.

Grains of course are common allergens.
post #20 of 34
Hi J Steele,
I hope your kitty is doing better! I just wanted to share an idea for giving your cat the pepcid, that just worked for my impossible kitty. I have the same problem with cat. She gets super aggressive and stressed when I try to give her any medication whether it's pills or liquid. She's a rescue and has always been very skidish and at times really aggressive, most of the time sweet to me but will not put up with medication of any kind. Anyway , last night I crushed up the 1/4 tablet of pepcid and mixed it with plain yogurt and also added some apricot preserves b/c that's her fav. She's always had a major sweet tooth, lol. But after a week and half of unsuccessfully trying to wrestle the pills down her in several different ways, and hidden in many different things this finally worked and she had no idea she was being medicated! Amazing! She happily licked it up all on her own. I just pray to God she doesn't catch on or lose interest but it's was an exciting victory last night. And I checked with her vet on both ingredients and he said they were both fine, not too much of the apricot preserves cuz of the sugar but in small amounts he said it was fine. And even said yogurt, plain yogurt , is, even good for her b/c of the probiotics, acidophilus in it and said she could have like 2 to 3 tablespoons a day. She's an extremely picky eater too and she easily tasted the pepcid in everything else I tried mixing it with. But the yogurt and preserves hid it well thank God! The other thing I'm going to try in case she's gets sick of the yogurt, which has happened before unfortunately, is a gravy like drink for cats called viyo veterinary for cats , which I first got from her vet a couple yrs ago when she wouldn't eat for a week once. They gave me the viyo b/c it helps stimulate eating or drinking water and it worked immediately, they had me put some over her food and she started eating again rigjt away, you can't also mix it with some water if they aren't drinking enough, she loved it so much I kept ordering it from amazon and giving it to her every night, it also has probitics in it and a lot of vitamins, so its really good for her. You just have to be careful to keep its refrigerated b/c it doesn't have any preservatives and you also wanted to keep the probiotics alive, actually I think it says prebiotics, but anyway. I had, run out and had to order more, but I'm anxious to try it since it's the one things she's never gotten sick of, and it even says on the site that it's good for hiding medicine in for difficult cats. Don't mean to sounds like an ad, she's just never liked anything so much so I really hope it's hides the bitter taste of the pepcid. I hope one of these ideas helps though, I know how frustrating it is! My cat is my baby and she acts like I'm trying to torture her when I'm just desperately trying to help her feel better! Good luck to all of you! And few anyone else has any other ideas or things that's worked for them please share, I never know when I'll needed a new idea! Thanx smile.gif
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post #21 of 34

My girl, Huckleberry has Kidney Disease.  I have had her two year now and she is 6.  This is young for a cat to have the condition.  I give her subcutanious fluids 2/3 times a week.  This last year she gain a little over a pound and the vet was very please.  For the last two weeks she has not pooped very much and she has not had much of an appetite.  I started her on 1/4 tab of pepsid, as suggested my the vet.  I hope it will increase her appetite.  My question is: 

 

I have to stick her at least twice and week and now get her to swallow the pepsid.  Is she going to start to hate me?  I love her more than anything and I cannot heal her.  I don't want her miserable either....but want her alive !!

 

Lee

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My girl, Huckleberry has Kidney Disease.  I have had her two year now and she is 6.  This is young for a cat to have the condition.  I give her subcutanious fluids 2/3 times a week.  This last year she gain a little over a pound and the vet was very please.  For the last two weeks she has not pooped very much and she has not had much of an appetite.  I started her on 1/4 tab of pepsid, as suggested my the vet.  I hope it will increase her appetite.  My question is: 

I have to stick her at least twice and week and now get her to swallow the pepsid.  Is she going to start to hate me?  I love her more than anything and I cannot heal her.  I don't want her miserable either....but want her alive !!

Lee

She won't hate you. Cats adjust amazingly well to the things we have to do to them for their health and well being. Always give a special tasty treat after the fluids. Once you develop skill, giving the pill can be so quick she will barely notice.

For my Mazy cat, who really detests being messed with in any way, when she needs a pepcid I get her meal ready, and just before she is about to eat, I pop the pill in. then she eats right away, and washes it down. But she is an old hand at being given pills.

Here is my suggested method for people just starting out on pilling cats:

use a dot of something soft and wet s/he likes. You can try yogurt, even a little soft butter or cream cheese, or even a little favorite wet food, but yogurt or soft butter works better. Make sure you have everything ready, in a bowl is good. Pill, and spoon with a little yogurt (or whatever)

Use the holding position. Kneel on the floor with your feet crossed behind you, hold kitty between your knees facing out. S/he will try to back away and will not be able to.

With cat in holding position (as described above), put a dot of the yogurt (or whatever) on kitty's mouth to keep her busy and to get the saliva flowing (so the pill doesn't stick).

While kitty is licking her mouth, hold pill in one hand, pry open mouth with other, poke pill in, toward side of mouth and as far back as you can.

You can let go of her mouth at this point, but keep a hand on her to keep her still while you get another bit of yogurt (or ...) on your finger and put a dot on her nose and mouth. She will lick off the yogurt and swallow, pill and all.

this can work with liquids too.

I make it sound easier than it is, at first. It does take practice. And you have to approach it with confidence, kitty will sense if you are hesitant. But once you master this method you'll be able to pill any cat, any time. I know I can!smile.gif
post #23 of 34

I've used 1/4 of a 10 mg pill of Pepcid for two cats, under a vet's advice, and it has always worked well.  I'm not sure why a vet would prescribe it for appetite, though.  It's for an upset, acidic stomach.  Chances are that something else is causing the problem if pepcid doesn't resolve the issue fairly quickly.  My experience is that tuna and lunch meat are very salty and hard on little kitty bodies and can cause some other problems.  Could it be that the regular food is causing a stomach disagreement?

post #24 of 34

Hi Bellaluna -

 

I almost named my cat that. Thank you for being so comprehensive! You said some great things in your post and I appreciate that. On second type opf antibiotics for my senior cat who has UTI. She vomits it up. Giving her acidophilus mixed into her food. I feel the same way you do about giving her pills - I wish I could tell her that I'm trying to help her not hurt her. I'm reminded of when my mom wanted me to take medicine as a child and I had to have the stuff that tasted good. So, we have to do teh same for out kitties. I tried smashing the pill to mix in with tuna (people tuna not cat food) as the smell overrides, but its hard to get the coating off. I have to pick it out. There has to be an easier way. She's restless on the new meds. Tomorrow I pick up something to help her with teh nausea as the 2nd antibiotic Zeniquin goes right to the GI tract. I laid out a seven course meal for her. I'll stand on my head if that works at this point! Whatever helps my furry child fell better!
 

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Hi Bellaluna -

 

I almost named my cat that. Thank you for being so comprehensive! You said some great things in your post and I appreciate that. On second type opf antibiotics for my senior cat who has UTI. She vomits it up. Giving her acidophilus mixed into her food. I feel the same way you do about giving her pills - I wish I could tell her that I'm trying to help her not hurt her. I'm reminded of when my mom wanted me to take medicine as a child and I had to have the stuff that tasted good. So, we have to do teh same for out kitties. I tried smashing the pill to mix in with tuna (people tuna not cat food) as the smell overrides, but its hard to get the coating off. I have to pick it out. There has to be an easier way. She's restless on the new meds. Tomorrow I pick up something to help her with teh nausea as the 2nd antibiotic Zeniquin goes right to the GI tract. I laid out a seven course meal for her. I'll stand on my head if that works at this point! Whatever helps my furry child fell better!
 

Are you saying this pill you are trying to smash is in a capsule (when you say it's hard to get the coating off).  If it's a capsule, you should be able to twist it open at the seam.  I've encountered some pretty difficult ones to twist, but eventually they give in wink.gif.  Otherwise, if it's in pill form, have you tried putting it between two spoons (nestle the pill in the bowl of one spoon,then lay the back of the  other spoon right on top of the pill, then apply pressure.  That should crush any pill.  OR, is it in some other variety?  How big is this pill?  Is thee any way to hide it inside a treat whole? (I;m guessing not...it was hard enough for me to hide 1/4 of a Pepcid A/C!)

post #26 of 34

I'll try the spoon trick. I've been using a hammer to smash her Zeniquin, brushing the pill powder into the food, then picking out the pink shell coating. We have 7 more days to go on this. Oy vey. Just picked up Cerenia today to help squelch her nausea. Thanks for the spoon tip! I'm also giving her pet acidophilus to offset the antibiotics killing off the good bacteria.
 

post #27 of 34

Don't forget, when giving the acidophilus during a course of  antibiotics, don't give them at the same time.  The acidophilus is really a probiotic, so you should give that half way in between giving the antibiotics.  For example, if you give the antibiotics at 8 a.m. and 8 p.m., give the acidophilus around 2 p.m.  Or if you only have to give the antibiotic once a day, say in the morning,then give the acidophilus in the evening.  Otherwise they counteract each other to some extent. 

post #28 of 34

I've been giving my diabetic cat, Clark (who will be 13 in August this year) a 1/4 of regular strength Pepcid AC at night; it's really helped his stomach from taking all the insulin.

post #29 of 34
Regular Pepcid is what vets recommend, NOT the AC variety (Pepcid Complete). The AC formula has other things in it not recommended for cats. I give this to one of my cats when she vomits often, especially vomiting white foam and bile before breakfast is even given. I stopped giving it for awhile, when she was on an antibiotic for a stubborn UTI. My vet said he didn't know if it would interfere with the medication, so to be on the safe side, I should stop the Pepcid. She was on the antibiotic for over a month, once a day in the morning, right before or after eating her wet food breakfast. With her evening meal, I would mix in Proviable (a pre and probiotic combo). She's been off the antibiotic for a few weeks, but I'm continuing the Proviable for at least another month. Have just put her back on the Pepcid twice a day too, and the vomiting has stopped again. I'm seeing some hairballs in the vomit too. With warmer weather moving in, she's probably shedding more and thus accumulating more hair in her stomach. So, I'm going to brush her out more often as that helps prevent hairballs.

B-12 shots won't hurt your cat, well except for giving the shot itself. I used to give daily B-12 shots to an old cat (who's long gone now) while he was also on subQ fluids, to help him feel better. It did work, but he was in the later stages of renal failure anyway by then. I would administer the B-12 through a special port in the tube of the fluids. However, unless tests show it's necessary, I wouldn't give your cat anything they don't need. It's a waste of money and the daily shots might just stress out your cat more too. Also, injection sites can get very tender and other issues can happen where shots are given regularly.

If I ever need to put a cat on subQ fluids again, I'll have a port surgically attached to the cat to make it easier on them.
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Originally Posted by Jill-E View Post

Regular Pepcid is what vets recommend, NOT the AC variety (Pepcid Complete). The AC formula has other things in it not recommended for cats..........

 

OMG !

 

Jill-E.............

 

Please have a read of this:

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 ...there are quite a few Pepcid products available these days so make sure you buy the correct one. You need Pepcid AC 10mg but not the chewable type, and not Pepcid Complete, both of which have some ingredients which make them unsuitable for CKD cats. There is also a new version called Pepcid Maximum Strength, which is the same as Pepcid AC except that it contains twice as much famotidine, so be very sure you have the correct strength (10mg tablets).
 

 

If you're wondering about drug interactions with Pepcid AC, scroll down a little at that link to "Famotidine Side Effects and Interactions".

 

And, "surgically attached" ports for fluids....?

 

Perhaps that entire site could benefit you.

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