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Earl was shown this article by a friend of his who is Canadian.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...t_crisis_world

I'll be honest, I really don't know a whole lot about Canadian politics. Yes, that makes me one of those American egocentrists, I guess. But I do want to learn and understand, especially since what happens here affects Canada and vice-versa.

What's going on up there in the Parliament that they are expecting inquiries about the stability of the government from the incoming US Administration?
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You might find this article useful, as it gives a reasonable overview of what has gone on, and what might, under what circumstances. Some of the comments are interesting, too.
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So long as I don't have to run out and vote again, I don't care what they do. Personally I think a coalition government is exactly what this country needs. I'm fed up with single party politics and if 3 parties can put their differences aside and come together, they stand a very good chance of being a very effective government because each party has their pros and cons and essentially brings a great deal to the table and not just as on opposition to block the ruling party, but as a party that actually has some weight behind their efforts.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

To the original poster, here is essentially what has been happening:

1. Stephen Harper heads the Conservative Party. When his party was elected to office, it was as a minority government. Meaning they had more seats than any other part, but not if the other governments put their votes together. A majority government has enough votes that can still trump the other parties combined votes.

2. A minority government is a very good thing. Because it means that they have to watch their P's and Q's and don't have free reign to do whatever they want because they always have to take into account the other parties and what they have to say and whether they will allow or block the bill/policy.

3. Apparently Stephen Harper hasn't been instilling confidence on Parliament Hill and the other parties are fed up with him and don't have confidence in his ability to run the country. The Liberal Party (the opposition) had planned on taking a "non confidence vote", or maybe they did...I can't remember.

4. As a result a couple months ago, completely fed up with the opposition party, Stephen Harper (our Prime Minister) went to the Government General (the Queen's representative) and asked her to dissolve parliament and call an election. His hopes were that he would win the election with a majority government instead of the current minority that he had at the time. She did and an election was called immediately and six (6) weeks later we were voting ... again!

5. Stephen Harper's Conservative party won another minority government, but this time had more parliament seats than they did before. But it was still a minority government and really didn't put them in a much better position than before.

6. Now instead of just the opposition party giving Stephen Harper and his party problems, the Liberals and the NDP got together and put their parties together into one (for the time being) in order to form a "coalition" and they have the Bloc Quebecois' support (another political party) to do it.

Now it's up to the Governor General to make a decision as to who is going to run our country. In the meantime we really don't have a government in charge because they are all too busy fighting amongst themselves

No wonder our dollar is taking a nose dive!
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Personally, I think the more time they spend maneuvering and the less time they spend legislating, the better off all Canadians are.

Any coalition that depends on the Bloc is a castle built on sand.
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Personally, I think the more time they spend maneuvering and the less time they spend legislating, the better off all Canadians are.

Any coalition that depends on the Bloc is a castle built on sand.
You have a good point re the maneuvering.

There are 2 schools of thought on the Bloc issue. Having the Bloc onside could have a positive effect for Canada by having the Separatists come together for the good of Canada. The green party has decided to also support the coalition. The green party didn't win any seats in the last election but I think they have a bit of a future. They'll never be a serious contender just as the Bloc won't be but as they say, every little bit of support helps.

Steven Harper has never been good at "playing with others" and I don't think having a coalition government right now would be a bad thing. Other countries have had them and they've done just fine from what I understand and I admit I don't truly understand a lot about politics.

Our Governor General has cut short her holiday to come home and referee the boys.
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I'm just about to watch harper and dion speak.

This coalition thing is ridiculous. I wish they would all just go away, the 4 leaders are a bunch of clowns and this whole thing is almost laughable (if it wasn't so depressing). I didn't even vote for harper, but he is PM, leave it alone.
The coalition picking dion for 'leader' takes away all their credibility as far as I'm concerned seeing as the reason most liberals swung their votes to another party was because NOBODY wanted him to run the country..... he also is going to step down in May? so it juts makes him look like a sore loser trying to take the back door way into leadership. shameless.
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
.....In the meantime we really don't have a government in charge because they are all too busy fighting amongst themselves
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
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Our Governor General has cut short her holiday to come home and referee the boys.
Just what we need - instability in the local and world economy and now a government with no one at the helm.

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This coalition thing is ridiculous. I wish they would all just go away.............

The coalition picking dion for 'leader' takes away all their credibility as far as I'm concerned seeing as the reason most liberals swung their votes to another party was because NOBODY wanted him to run the country...
I agree. I'm not a fan at all of this coalition. If they get in, they will be fighting in no time once the dust settles. I can't stand Dion at all and making him 'leader' right after Canada had an election makes me sick.

I could understand this happening IF we didn't just have an election. But we DID just have an election, and the country voted. Harper had a minority, but at least he was voted in by the country.

Just like a schoolyard fight. Gang up and take down the vulnerable one until an adult walks by. It's just so pitiful we're not talking about a schoolyard and this is our government.

Shining example of a democratic process in action.
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For anyone who would like a little more reading about the current political situation in Canada...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...r-general.html
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...overnment.html
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I am not in favour of a coalition so soon after an election, further down the road maybe but to say they don't ave the confidence of the people over one speech on the budget is laughable when they say they want monumental change and that is impossible minutes after a speech.

I am also appalled that they chose Dion who has some of the lowest approval ratings ever for a Liberal leader, someone like Ignatieff would have been a better choice and less baggage after the election.

As for proroguing Parliament, it isn't heard of in economic times like this to be able to come back with a new budget and throne speech in order to bring about changes that may have to go against the original throne speech, but to do it for political reasons to me is stupid - however, I do think Harper should be given more than a day to prove his budget can work for Canada.

Some interesting facts from the paper this morning:

Number of days Parliament has sat since the last election 12 out of 7.5 weeks
Number of days until Parliament resumes: 53


Yeah, 12 days of making decisions is definitely enough time for 'monumental change'

Personally, I don't need an economic stimulus cheque, it would go to paying off bills and I am not willing to see an expensive election fought with tax paying money when just 12 parliamentary days ago we chose a government.

Harper's dumbest move this week: insulting the Bloc who had no power under the coalition and could potentially have been swayed to vote against the coalition for a Ministerial position
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