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post #31 of 50
Just ignore it. I get that all the time too. I am going to be quite honest here, I am not into having pets in order to save the world - if I get one that desperately needed a home that is a bonus, but that is not why I choose to have pets in the first place. I have never irresponsibly allowed a pet to breed. I have never put an animal in a shelter or turned one out onto the streets or been responsible for the production of unwanted animals. It is not my fault if other people do not care for their pets as responsibly as I do. It is not my fault if other people irresponsibly allow their pets to produce unwanted offspring. It is not my responsibility to sort out the mess that other people make. I do donate to shelters and animal charities, but the world the way it is - that is NOT of my making and I have not 'contributed' unwanted pets to the population, and I will not be made to feel guilty for making my own choice when it comes to what pets I want.
post #32 of 50
Thread Starter 
I was so mad when I read that.
I would love to show Cleo and I plan on getting another pure bred one day.
Its not easy saving ferals.
I still have the scars from some of them.
Everytime I was going to get a pure bred We would save a feral or a cat that would have gone to the pound.
post #33 of 50
I don't know why we need to keep defending ourselves about the desire to get and/or breed purebreds....but we do. I try to be as brief as possible for the reasons.

I usually wind up saying something like "ethical breeders are not the problem with shelter cats - its the backyard breeders that are the problem"
post #34 of 50
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I don't know why we need to keep defending ourselves about the desire to get and/or breed purebreds....but we do.
Because there is always somone pointing an ignorant, uneducated finger at breeders and those who want breed cats.

Shelter cats exist because of irresponsible pet owners. Period.

Not even BYB of breed cats are at fault because it is exceedingly rare for a breed cat to be in a shelter to begin with. In the rare event that one does show up, in most circumstances a breed rescue will step in and remove the cat from the shelter for re-homing.

I hope that one day soon the folks that run, work and volunteer for shelters will take the blinders off and see things for what they really are. I know a few that see what I'm saying is factual, so don't think I'm lumping everyone in. However it does seem the majority blame the breeders without just cause.

I refuse to let a single one of my clients be an irresposible pet owner and they sign a contract to that effect. No cat of ours is to ever see a shelter. They must be surrendered back to us without protest if the owner can't care for them anymore.
The breeders I know and am friends with all do this.
post #35 of 50
Thread Starter 
I think it is good that the contracts say the cat has to go back to the breeder if they can not be kept.
I agree the pound is not full of pure breds.
I just wish people wpuld not say stuff without knowing the whole story.
I just ignored her post.
post #36 of 50
I would ignore the person who posted that to you! All my cats were rescues in my first years as a cat owner. I feel that I deserve a beautiful purebred in my life too! You deserve a beautiful purebred sphynx too!!
post #37 of 50
Ignore that person. Said person seriously needs to get a life. You have 4 cats in your sig…. Four…. Not many people will provide a happy loving home to four cats.

All animal lovers have a specific breed they love. I have been saving animals for many, many years, rehoming, paying out of my own pocket to fix/get needles/fix wounds to strays, volunteering, etc… like most of you all. Yet, one day, when my boyfriend and I move into a bigger home I will get my purebred German Shepherd. It would be nice if it was a rescue… if its not, well, he/she will still be an animal that I take into my home and love with all of my heart… I will still continue doing what I do now in my efforts to help unfortunate animals.

Anyone who has a problem with that can sit in a corner and freakishly argue with himself or herself… because I don’t care… neither should you. You are a wonderful and caring person who is getting a cat you always wanted. Don’t let some loser ruin that for you.
post #38 of 50
Thread Starter 
I took Oreo because she has fcks.
Not many people would want a cat like that.
post #39 of 50
All I can say is WOW.

Before I read all of this I had mixed emotions of breeders vs. shelters, BUT I never tried to persuade anyone from their personal decisions because I felt like I had no right-I hadn't even made up my OWN mind on the subject, how am I supposed to tell someone else what to do?

This is by FAR the BEST thread EVER. I no longer feel guilty that I eventually want to get a pure bred (from a reputable breeder) Sphinx and Bengal. And I WILL NOT feel guilty when I have said animals. And I no longer have the slight feeling of "do I agree with what they are doing" when I see breeders/pure bred cats.

What set off my euphony was the follow statements:
-Shelters are NOT full of pure bred cats

-Almost every one of them is spayed (I knew this)

-They are NOT contributing to homeless animals

-People who get pure breds are not keeping a homeless cat from getting a home, they were looking for a specific breed, which is NOT a mix breed. Granted there are rescues, but they are not always local/have wait lists/and some are over strict (hopehackers post)
post #40 of 50
Thread Starter 
I never did reply to that nasty post.
What hopehacker said is right.
My Sister was treated that way when she went to adopt.
I asked for a fixed kitten that can be shown.
I have 4 cats all mixes and Cleo is my first purebred.
I also did alot of research before I got her.
post #41 of 50
I have just one thing to say:

People who have and/or want to get pedigreed cats is never a home for a shelter cat (for those particular ones) anyway.

If you're seeking a pedigree cat, it just means that you're seeking a particular type of cat. 99% of the time you wont find the particular type in a shelter or on the roads. Therefore, you were never a home for a shelter cat! This does not of course, preclude the fact that you already have one or more strays in your home anyway!

So don't feel guilty about getting a pedigree cat, you were never a home for a non pedigree.
post #42 of 50
Thread Starter 
I ignored her post.
I was not going to look for a spyhnx in the pound anyway.
It is rare to have one there.
post #43 of 50
Just out of curiousity I did a search on Petfinder - currently 4 Sphynx are needing homes - one in Utah, one in Arizona and two in California. All are purebred hairless Sphynx.

Its rare to find them in a shelter but apparently these 4 had horrible owners if they are sitting in there. I'm not sure if there is a sphynx rescue group (probably is) but they should be made aware of these 4 cats and get them out of the shelters.

I know the Ocicats do have several people that look for the real Oci's in shelters and try to get them out and rehome them.

http://www.petfinder.com/search/sear...location=56277
post #44 of 50
I myself have a Heinz 57, my wonderful Tuxedo boy, and a purebred Siamese girl. I love all cats--it matters not whether they are purebred or not. I worked in adoptions (human children, not kittens!) for 5 years, and you wouldn't believe how many negative comments other people would make to our adoptive parents about their decision to adopt! The world would be a lot happier place if all of us were more "live-and-let-live"!

I think your Sphynx is just beautiful--she certainly seems like a precious little kitty girl! Enjoy her, and pay no attention to others.
post #45 of 50
Thread Starter 
I hope someone saves those other spyhnx from pet finder.
Mine is already in trouble.
She took my dinner.
Knocked the plate on the floor.
post #46 of 50
I know you have several cats so anything I could add I'm sure you've thought of. But, I usually try to feed newcomers at the same time as when we eat so that they aren't so determined to eat off my plate. It has worked on all my cats and they just need time to learn the ropes of manners LOL.
post #47 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Just out of curiousity I did a search on Petfinder - currently 4 Sphynx are needing homes - one in Utah, one in Arizona and two in California. All are purebred hairless Sphynx.

Its rare to find them in a shelter but apparently these 4 had horrible owners if they are sitting in there. I'm not sure if there is a sphynx rescue group (probably is) but they should be made aware of these 4 cats and get them out of the shelters.

I know the Ocicats do have several people that look for the real Oci's in shelters and try to get them out and rehome them.

http://www.petfinder.com/search/sear...location=56277
What I don't understand is why are they asking 550.00 for the one in Utah. I understand this is a purebred but if it's in a shelter I would think they would be more concerned with finding these poor cats a loving forever home.
post #48 of 50
Thread Starter 
I am very confused about the last 2 sphynx on there.
I wrote taht lady and she wrote me back a few weeks ago.
I was thinking of fostering them.
On there it says Glendale which is So Cal.
The lady wanted someone to foster them in the San Francisco Bay Area or someone within 100 miles from
there.
I wrote a few people in this group asking if they want to foster them but no one replied.

Here is what I wrote on Nove 28th.
On Fri, November 28, 2008 4:55 pm, Jacky Chapman wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
> I am seeing if any of my friends can help you. I would like to help but doubt my husband would let me.
> I have a few friends that foster in the Bay Area.
> I took 4 fosters from Modesto to my friend in Castro Valley last Aug.
> Jacky

This is her reply on Dec 1
Hi Jacky,

Thanks! That would be great. These girls are going to need the extra
care that Sphynx require. Our group pays all pre-approved vet expenses
and has a great track record for getting cats placed in wonderful homes.
We do not force our fosters to look for homes for the cats, we do all of
that legwork. We want our fosters to be able to concentrate on taking
care of the kitties.

Thanks again,


Lisa Marie Kuta
Cornish Rex Friends
http://www.cornishrexfriends.org
lisa@kuta.net


post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by Epona View Post
Just ignore it. I get that all the time too. I am going to be quite honest here, I am not into having pets in order to save the world - if I get one that desperately needed a home that is a bonus, but that is not why I choose to have pets in the first place. I have never irresponsibly allowed a pet to breed. I have never put an animal in a shelter or turned one out onto the streets or been responsible for the production of unwanted animals. It is not my fault if other people do not care for their pets as responsibly as I do. It is not my fault if other people irresponsibly allow their pets to produce unwanted offspring. It is not my responsibility to sort out the mess that other people make. I do donate to shelters and animal charities, but the world the way it is - that is NOT of my making and I have not 'contributed' unwanted pets to the population, and I will not be made to feel guilty for making my own choice when it comes to what pets I want.
All I can say to that is
post #50 of 50
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Originally Posted by twokatz View Post
All I can say to that is
You know I was SO worried that I would get slated for saying that. Even though it is in Breeders Corner which should be a haven for those of us with purebreds So thank you.

Of my 3 cats, 2 of them were brought into this world as part of a breed specific breeding programme by someone who showed their cats to make sure they fit the specified look for the breed, their parents' backgrounds were researched thoroughly to make sure there was no sign of genetic problems including heart disease which is common in cats, they were tested for FIV and FeLV before they were mated, and they had known good temperaments.

As kittens, my cats were fed the best quality diet, they were weaned, socialised, health-checked (including heart monitoring just in case), and vaccinated before coming home with me. In the US, you can add spay/neuter to that list of things that are done before rehoming although we don't spay/neuter that young in the UK just yet. And they were loved and cherished for every moment of their existence, from before they were even conceived. If I have any problems, I can contact their breeder and expect full support and an advice service, throughout the whole of their lifetime.

Isn't that how ALL kittens should come into the world? It's not the good breeders at fault, or the people who opt for purebred kittens - it's the people who don't spay and neuter their pets that are responsible for the shelter population.
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