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Has anyone heard of this movement. Its all the talk here in San Diego. Granted I live in a predomantly gay neighborhoon and most of my friends and coworkers plan on participating. It should be very interesting to see if it happens and what the implications will be.
I also posted this for those who may not have heard about it and want to participate or know someone who would.

http://daywithoutagay.org/

From what I have heard if the entire GLBT comunity accross the California stopped supporting things the state would fail even more. What do you guys think? The main point is to go and volunteer somewhere and give back to the community not just take off work and do nothing. I just don't know what it will prove but it should be good.
post #2 of 14
No doubt we should all call in sick when we don't get our way. December 11th can be the *I didn't vote for BO day*.

The more the state fails, well....that's good news for gays too? Doesn't seem like the right way to go about it to me, but I'm not on that side of the fence. But before you start trashing me, this is very close to where I live, and I like this guy.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6211839&page=1
post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by KarmasMom View Post
Has anyone heard of this movement. Its all the talk here in San Diego.

I'd never heard of it, but it sounds like an interesting way to make a statement.



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Originally Posted by Cinder View Post
No doubt we should all call in sick when we don't get our way. December 11th can be the *I didn't vote for BO day
I like the sound of that one too If you can get it organized, let us know, I'm in for a day off.
post #4 of 14
I will be at work December 10th.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Cinder View Post
No doubt we should all call in sick when we don't get our way. December 11th can be the *I didn't vote for BO day*.

The more the state fails, well....that's good news for gays too? Doesn't seem like the right way to go about it to me, but I'm not on that side of the fence. But before you start trashing me, this is very close to where I live, and I like this guy.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6211839&page=1
No offense but that dude is kind of scary looking. I hope it all works out for him though.
post #6 of 14
I understand the thinking behind it. You need aggressive tactics sometimes to get noticed. Only thing is it could backfire.
I think a lot of gay people were hurt to think their fellow Californians would deny them the right to express love and commitment to their partner.
But I think they missed the boat by not educating socially conservative church going minorities about their movement.
When a white gay man is comparing their plight to the plight of blacks I think it offends them just as when people compare something to the holocaust for Jewish people. You can't compare oppression and expect an instant bond with another group. Anyway it is not the same.
Black people and Native Americans were segregated and given inferior educations and denied the right to vote. Gay people have never been segregated. I am not diminishing the true horrible experiences that happen everyday. Mathew Shepard comes to mind. Nor am I diminishing the suffering but it is its own brand of bigotry that allows people to behave the way they do.
However, I am not sure if this will have the desired affect. A large number won't do it because they are not 'out' at their workplace for whatever personal reasons. Or in the closet with their families. Then I question the number of gay people. I was told it is 2 % of the population.
Factoring in that California probably has a higher average and with other variables this could have little impact. This could hurt rather help.
post #7 of 14
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No offense but that dude is kind of scary looking. I hope it all works out for him though.
Stu's only problem is his fashion sense. He dresses like a streetwalker. (sorry Stu) Aside from that he is intelligent, community minded, etc. But man, those miniskirts and black hose...
post #8 of 14
I think it's kind of risky. Any time any one doesn't show up for work, regardless of the excuse, it's an opportunity for their boss to see if they can get along without them. If they can, well, ......... (bye bye, collect your severance on the way out)
post #9 of 14
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I was told it is 2 % of the population.
That will be participating, or that is LGBT? 7% of men and 4% of women do not have heterosexual-only sexualities. Less conservative estimates are usually around 10% of the US population. Regardless, the number is much higher in cities because many people are forced out of less-populated areas or move to cities for the same reasons straight singles do. Since California is so densely populated, it's safe to say the number is considerably more than 2%.

Besides, the walk-out is for LGBT and straight allies, which means the number of the gay population does not matter, it's the number of people who want to show support.

Likely, the only people who will be able to do this are people who work for progressive companies. I imagine my old boss (who has a non-legal husband and an adopted son) will probably take part and have the company's full blessing. People who get hourly wages maybe won't be able to afford to go on strike for a day.

The point of this is to get people to stop and think about how we ask this group of people to pay the same taxes as everyone else and follow the same laws, but then refuse to give them equal rights. It's probably also an opportunity for all the people who maybe weren't out at their workplace because it never came up to demonstrate that gay people aren't scary, don't want to do all the things the Mormon/Catholic ads said they did, etc.

Notice it's one day-- not really enough to make or break the economy. It isn't a gays-quit-their-jobs-and-go-on-welfare day.
post #10 of 14
Remember when Hispanics did this same thing? It didn't work out to well for them.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
No offense but that dude is kind of scary looking. .
I've seen scarier looking females in town
post #12 of 14
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I think it's kind of risky. Any time any one doesn't show up for work, regardless of the excuse, it's an opportunity for their boss to see if they can get along without them. If they can, well, ......... (bye bye, collect your severance on the way out)
I'm sure that it's kind of risky. But, most efforts to effect social change have risks, and the degree of risk that is acceptable has to be determined by those taking the risk. Many may feel that it's well worth it.
post #13 of 14
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I think it's kind of risky. Any time any one doesn't show up for work, regardless of the excuse, it's an opportunity for their boss to see if they can get along without them. If they can, well, ......... (bye bye, collect your severance on the way out)
I agree! Especially if they call in that morning rather than giving some notice.
post #14 of 14
A long time ago I was seeing someone who worked in an insurance office. She complained to me about her job, saying that they relied on her too much; there wasn't anyone she could delegate some of her extra work to. Finally, they hired someone and she was so happy that she scheduled some vacation time as soon as she had the new hire trained. I asked her how things had gone in the office while she was gone and she said they'd gone just fine; no problems; her assistant handled everything quite well.

Within two months she was out of her job and the assistant took her place. I don't really know what happened; she wouldn't tell me. But I'm willing to bet she wished they had never hired the assistant and she had never gone on vacation.

It's always better to be indispensable.
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