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Ayers Breaks Silence on Obama

post #1 of 26
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Ayers distanced himself from Obams. Saying that he hardly knew him and that the work he did with Obama was purely based on things like helping improve the schools and had nothing to do with his political views.
On the omterview on good morning Amercia he also said that he doesn't regret what he did and though more should hve been done but he doesn't agree with the way that it was done. Or at least that is what I got out of it.

http://news.aol.com/article/ayers-br...201x1200865920
post #2 of 26
Here's the video link
The "palling around" was obviously much ado about nothing.
post #3 of 26
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Here's the video link
The "palling around" was obviously much ado about nothing.
Yup, but many of us knew that.
post #4 of 26
I guess this all hinges on whether you think the man is truthful, doesn't it?
post #5 of 26
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I guess this all hinges on whether you think the man is truthful, doesn't it?
Well, over 62.5 million U.S. voters (52%) obviously didn't believe that allegation was pertinent.
post #6 of 26
And 48% is no drop in the bucket either. So you think majority automatically makes someone correct in their assumption? It could make them correct, or it could make them gullible. Time usually tells, not an interview.
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And 48% is no drop in the bucket either. So you think majority automatically makes someone correct in their assumption? It could make them correct, or it could make them gullible. Time usually tells, not an interview.
If that's what you believe, so be it. Provided it's your own personal opinion. McCain got 46% of the popular vote, BTW, not 48%. There were candidates from other parties, e.g., Ralph Nader.
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If that's what you believe, so be it. Provided it's your own personal opinion. McCain got 46% of the popular vote, BTW, not 48%. There were candidates from other parties, e.g., Ralph Nader.
Forty eight percent of the people did not vote for BO no matter how you choose to divide it. And let me just remind you, it is YOUR OWN personal opinion that Ayers is telling the truth too, isn't it?
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Forty eight percent of the people did not vote for BO no matter how you choose to divide it. And let me just remind you, it is YOUR OWN personal opinion that Ayers is telling the truth too, isn't it?
True, but it seems that the majority of voters didn't swallow the argument, either, so why bother beating a dead horse? It didn't work. Period. That type of negative campaigning probably hurt McCain more than it helped him. He's not a bad guy, and has exhibited an awful lot of personal integrity in his lifetime, but - this campaign diminished him, and I give the GOP establishment, rather than McCain himself, the blame:
post #10 of 26
I must have watched a completely different interview. I didn't see him denying any relationship with BHO. I saw him duck and dodge and avoid Chris Cuomo's questions with the same kind of non-answers BHO gives.

He mentions they are family friends in his re-released book, then in the interview says he was "just repeating how he's been characterized in the media." I might be the ultimate skeptic, but how is that denying anything? If you didn't want what the media said to be accepted as true, why repeat it?

And his denial of dedicating "Prairie Fire" to Sirhan Sirhan? What the.... ???? It's in black in white, right there in the book. I'm surprised Chris Cuomo didn't press that harder, since his former sister-in-law is Kerry Kennedy, RFK's daughter.
post #11 of 26
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True, but it seems that the majority of voters didn't swallow the argument, either, so why bother beating a dead horse? It didn't work. Period. That type of negative campaigning probably hurt McCain more than it helped him. He's not a bad guy, and has exhibited an awful lot of personal integrity in his lifetime, but - this campaign diminished him, and I give the GOP establishment, rather than McCain himself, the blame:
It matters if BHO is LYING as well.
post #12 of 26
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It matters if BHO is LYING as well.
Proof? Blogs aren't acceptable (keep in mind that I'm a teacher, and one still struggling with your personal definition of "African-American!"
post #13 of 26
I would hazard a guess that many of those 52% that voted for Barack never even heard of William Ayers, the unrepentant American terrorist.
Not all people that vote really even know what or who they are voting for.
The interview with many in Harlem proved that.

Ayers is a liar, he proved it today by saying he didn't dedicate his book, Prairie Fire, to Sirhan Sirhan. I'm sure many people think that is the only lie he has ever told, I'm just not one of them.
post #14 of 26
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I would hazard a guess that many of those 52% that voted for Barack never even heard of William Ayers, the unrepentant American terrorist.
Not all people that vote really even know what or who they are voting for.
The interview with many in Harlem proved that.

Ayers is a liar, he proved it today by saying he didn't dedicate his book, Prairie Fire, to Sirhan Sirhan. I'm sure many people think that is the only lie he has ever told, I'm just not one of them.
Have you read his book? I haven't, and have no plans to, unless of course I get it as a present.

He's an irrelevant has-been.
post #15 of 26
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Proof? Blogs aren't acceptable (keep in mind that I'm a teacher, and one still struggling with your personal definition of "African-American!"
If Ayers and he are family friends, and BHO's not telling the truth about it, he's LYING.

Sorry for you have to be struggling with any of my posts, I know it's late and probably past bedtime there in Germany.
post #16 of 26
I have seen the screen shots of his book on the internet. Fox News got a hold of an actual copy and Sean Hannity had the copy on this show and showed the dedication page and the book was dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan, I saw it with my own eyes. I also saw some other stuff from the book that would curl your hair, I have posted it in this forum.

Some may not like Fox except when it fits their agenda but this is true.
If it wasn't the biggest lawsuit in this country would have been filed against Fox.
post #17 of 26
http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...&postcount=882

That has a link to quotes from the terrorist manifesto.

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...&postcount=884

There is a few more.

I'm sorry the drive by, biased media did not see fit to cover it, but it does not mean it isn't true.

Fox did and they showed the book.
post #18 of 26
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I must have watched a completely different interview. I didn't see him denying any relationship with BHO. I saw him duck and dodge and avoid Chris Cuomo's questions with the same kind of non-answers BHO gives.

You must have because the interview I saw he clearly said that he knew Obama but didn't know him well nor did he ever discuss politics.
post #19 of 26
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True, but it seems that the majority of voters didn't swallow the argument, either, so why bother beating a dead horse? It didn't work. Period. That type of negative campaigning probably hurt McCain more than it helped him. He's not a bad guy, and has exhibited an awful lot of personal integrity in his lifetime, but - this campaign diminished him, and I give the GOP establishment, rather than McCain himself, the blame:
It doesn't matter in the least to me that "it didn't work". It showed me the liar that Obama is.

Ayers said he knows Obama as a "family friend". That's not just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" as BO claimed. Obama is a liar, but many of us knew that.

We are judged by the company we keep and Barack has kept company with some really bad people. The fact that he won the election doesn't change those facts.
post #20 of 26
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You must have because the interview I saw he clearly said that he knew Obama but didn't know him well nor did he ever discuss politics.
And he wrote in his newly re-released book that they are family friends.

The man thinks he didn't hurt anyone with his radical actions in the 60's. He's delusional at best, a homegrown terrorist at the least.
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It doesn't matter in the least to me that "it didn't work". It showed me the liar that Obama is.

Ayers said he knows Obama as a "family friend". That's not just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" as BO claimed. Obama is a liar, but many of us knew that.

We are judged by the company we keep and Barack has kept company with some really bad people. The fact that he won the election doesn't change those facts.
HE also admitted that he only really met him that one time that he was asked to have him over. Did you ever think that his interpretation of family friend might be different then yours. Or maybe his interpretation of what Obama is to him is different then Obamas. Honestly I find no reason for Ayres to lie Obama is already president and a friendship is no reason to take him out of the presidency. HE also said that he hardly knew Obama and never spoke of his political views with him and that he knew him as well as 1,000 other people in chicago. First of all I would have cared less if Obama was good friends with Ayers. I would have still voted for Obama. Actually it would impress me more because it would mean that Obama can talk to all kinds of people and have friends that are different with different views and still be able to fight for what he believes in. I have said this before and I still believe it. I want a president who is willing to listen to people and still have the good sense to know what is right and wrong. I just take a different view on it then you though. Also Ayres didn't have a problem with saying he didnt regret what happened and that he wish more was done. Why would he lie about his relationship with Obama. To me it looks worse on him saying this then it would look on Obama for him to say he knew him well. Again I feel he has no reason to lie especially now that the election is over. There are always going to be people that will do anything they can to disprove that. but oh well Obama is going to be our president regardless and no one can really change that now so we may as well make the best of it and look at the positive rather then try to bring out negativity.
post #22 of 26
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And he wrote in his newly re-released book that they are family friends.

The man thinks he didn't hurt anyone with his radical actions in the 60's. He's delusional at best, a homegrown terrorist at the least.
Well I don't agree with what Ayers did but he really seems like he believed in the cause of ending the war. Maybe not though maybe he is just using excuses and being deceitful. It seems like He really felt thousands of people were being murdered and was trying to stop that. I don't agree with violence for violence I don't agree with his approach. I wish he would have been a little more smart and took a different approach. He could have hurt or killed many which I think that he should have been held accountable for what he did, but their is a reason he did what he did. In his head he was saving thousands of lives. I guess I just try to look at it from his eyes to try to understand why. It doesn't justify what he did but it helps me understand why he thought what he did was helping and his misguided reasoning. Although really don't think violence helps to stop violence.
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HE also admitted that he only really met him that one time that he was asked to have him over. Did you ever think that his interpretation of family friend might be different then yours. Or maybe his interpretation of what Obama is to him is different then Obamas. Honestly I find no reason for Ayres to lie Obama is already president and a friendship is no reason to take him out of the presidency. HE also said that he hardly knew Obama and never spoke of his political views with him and that he knew him as well as 1,000 other people in chicago. First of all I would have cared less if Obama was good friends with Ayers. I would have still voted for Obama. Actually it would impress me more because it would mean that Obama can talk to all kinds of people and have friends that are different with different views and still be able to fight for what he believes in. I have said this before and I still believe it. I want a president who is willing to listen to people and still have the good sense to know what is right and wrong. I just take a different view on it then you though. Also Ayres didn't have a problem with saying he didnt regret what happened and that he wish more was done. Why would he lie about his relationship with Obama. To me it looks worse on him saying this then it would look on Obama for him to say he knew him well. Again I feel he has no reason to lie especially now that the election is over. There are always going to be people that will do anything they can to disprove that. but oh well Obama is going to be our president regardless and no one can really change that now so we may as well make the best of it and look at the positive rather then try to bring out negativity.
So, Barack and Ayers didn't meet when they were on committee's together for Annenberg?
post #24 of 26
I think he'd make a good appointment to the Department of Education, perhaps in the Office of the General Counsel.
post #25 of 26
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So, Barack and Ayers didn't meet when they were on committee's together for Annenberg?
I don't know I assume they did meet which does make me question but at the same time I can't ask him what he meant by meet or ask him how that relationship works within the comittee works.. I mean was he in a large room with a large amount of people. If that is the case it is possible. Or when he said meet did he mean formally meet. Or meet outide the committee. It hard to say. And since I can't ask him nor can you all we can do is assume.
post #26 of 26
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I don't know I assume they did meet which does make me question but at the same time I can't ask him what he meant by meet or ask him how that relationship works within the comittee works.. I mean was he in a large room with a large amount of people. If that is the case it is possible. Or when he said meet did he mean formally meet. Or meet outide the committee. It hard to say. And since I can't ask him nor can you all we can do is assume.
They served on several boards together, held conferences together, and through foundations BHO was able to disperse millions of dollars to groups Ayers was the leader of.

Do some research on your own, there's plenty out there.
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