Originally Posted by kittymonsters
Kaete I am so glad you posted. I was thinking of you last night as I logged off and was hoping you would join this thread.
I am not gay or religious, so I really have an outsider's viewpoint on this. The whole your a "godless" person doesn't offend me at all because I absolutely don't believe in organized religion.
However, I know many gay people are very devout in their faith and that there are certain religious institutions that do not follow the tenant that marriage is between a man and woman.
This is what I was thinking on as I went to bed last night. Along these lines, just changing marriage to be a religious term and not a legal one would be fine and heres the big IF and only if it was not designated specifically between a man and a woman.
Defining it as between a man and a woman would curtail the religious freedoms of gay people and the religious institutions that believe they are God's children and deserve to be united by him as well.
I am a firm believer in separation of church and state. I am also a firm believer in religious freedom for everyone. I don't think one can force Catholics ( just a for instance as I was raised one) to marry same sex couples as it would go against their religious principles. However if other religions Christian or not don't follow that belief the same would be true that one should not be able to prevent them from following the tenets of their faith which allows same sex marriages.
I agree with you 100%.
To me, this is really a no-brainer. I honestly, HONESTLY - and I'm not saying this to be snarky - don't understand how anybody can profess to believe in the United States Constitution and, at the same time, deny me equal protection under the law.
It boggles my mind.
I am a citizen of the United States. I have the right to equal protection. I'm not asking any priest to marry me against their will (I have a lovely reverend officiating at my ceremony next year, and I didn't have to twist her arm
). I wouldn't want someone like that at my wedding. Gross.
All I'm asking for is the right to sign a legal contract. I am over the age of 18, and I am mentally competent. So is my partner.
Call it a civil union, if you want, if it's not done by a member of the clergy (just make sure you call it a civil union for everyone
not united by clergy). It doesn't amount to a hill of beans to me.
I'm asking for equality. That's ALL. I am asking for my citizenship to be respected and honored.
I pay my taxes. I vote in every election, and I have since I turned 18. I do my duty as a citizen. I want the government to do its duty to me as
This is not an issue that should even be up for discussion. As far as I'm concerned, it's already resolved by the governing document of our country.
Go to a bigoted church. Get married in it. Hate me for no reason other than the fact that I have a female partner. Make your kids afraid to come out to you. Believe whatever the heck you want, and say whatever the heck you want, and teach your kids whatever you want, and be as smug as you want. That's YOUR RIGHT.
And I'd use my last breath to defend that for you.
I don't think I'm asking too much.