Originally Posted by neetanddave
Not sure why you would ascertain that I hate/dislike anyone. Bashing isn't hate, it's drawing attention to something you disagree with. I don't post violent or racist threats, so please don't be accusing me of anything.
The way you've been speaking about other people gives me the impression that you dislike/hate those groups of people. And in my book, bashing is hateful... (Maybe just a vocabulary/definition difference? Perhaps you had another word in mind?) and you can dislike/hate people without being violent or threatening. Personally, I think that a lot of your comments have been pretty racist. BUT interpretations differ, and if you believe that you're just being 'honest' then I may be mistaken.. but I believe that the way you speak about minorities and such is past honesty and into darker emotion.
I really don't want to be accusatory and aggressive- I was just curious about how you defined 'bashing' and how you apply it to, say, white Americans or conservatives or the people you claim you're just as 'honest' about.
Originally Posted by Yosemite
Us "older" folks are able to be honest without being offensive.
I always try to get my point across with calling anyone names or using derogatory terms when referring to them.
You are correct when you say you have the right to disagree with anyone but when that disagreement turns to slander, name-calling and general disrespect then it becomes much more than just disagreeing - it's offensive and that is what most of us are having the most difficulty with your posts.
To some of us, in this thread alone, you have come across as an angry, vengeful person.
Yosemite pretty well summed up what I think. I would like to add, though, that there's a line between honesty and rudeness, and aggressive denouncement. :-S
Originally Posted by ckblv
I didn't ask you to debate about Obama vs. McCain. I asked you to explain what you thought "hope" and "change" meant and why you think Obama is "going to be a wonderful influence on the world". Many people have been caught up in the cult of "personality", but when asked for specifics can't put their finger on any. No problem, I was just wondering.
I'm sorry. XD I thought you were trying to hook me into an aggressive and condemnatory rant about how people are idiots for believing Obama's shtick or whatever.
So, this is why I support Obama:
I think that he's intelligent, diplomatic and charismatic- a HUGE plus in the big bad world we live in. It seems to me that he'll be able to negotiate and deal with other nations and other cultures without immediately having the 'threat' reaction and denouncing, threatening, and invading other countries. Particularly, he's against the Iraq War, which puts him very much in my favour. I hope that that means that he understands that invading isn't always the best action to take when dealing with despots and dictators, and that the US has made itself very unpopular in the rest of the world for it's high handed moral dealings with everyone else.
I agree with his position on things like abortion, education, health, social welfare etc etc as well, but as an Australian citizen that doesn't really affect me. XD
I guess that most of the reason I support him is because he seems sane and rational, and intelligent.... qualities which unfortunately were apparently lacking in Bush. ^^"
The reason I was hoping that McCain didn't win is mostly because of his age. I heard somewhere, (can't find the link) that the average age that US Presidents DIE is 71, and he's 73? (I think?) That worries me, especially with an inexperienced hick like Sarah Palin in position to move into the Oval Office. x.x