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Legal drinking age?

post #1 of 37
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Does anyone else find it ridiculous that an American person can fight in a war legally before they can legally buy a beer?
post #2 of 37
Yes. I think if someone is adult enough to defend his country, he is adult enough to have a beer if he wants.
post #3 of 37
I agree with you guys. In NZ, the legal age for drinking alcohol is 18....
But there are some downsides as well.....

But I agree, why send someone to fight in a war before they can legally drink?
post #4 of 37
Might cut down on college boozing too, if it weren't "forbidden". A lot of the people I've known weren't a heck of a lot more responsible at 21 than they were at 18, not to mention that an 18 year old can also smoke, vote... but not drink?
post #5 of 37
Back in the mid-seventies to early eighties, the drinking age was lowered to 18 in many states, without any major problems arising, but during the Reagan administration states were told they had to put it back up to 21 if they wanted federal funds for highways. I don't think the 21-year-old limit does much of anything except prevent kids from getting into some clubs, etc.. Face it - it's easy enough for even a 16-year-old to get alcohol. I'd put the limit back down to 18 - for some kids, if it's not illegal, it's not any fun. The drinking age is 16 here, but you have to be 18 to get a driver's license.
post #6 of 37
Yes , That IS how young our legal drinking age is BUT alot of people drink under age and why not the fines are not hefty

I agree I think this is stupid,It's more manly to fight in a war than to drink a beer GET A GRIP
post #7 of 37
The legal age to drink in Canada is 19. When I was at the university of Windsor all of the Michigan university students would cross the border to drink all weekend. Some got mighty rowdy!
post #8 of 37
Here, the kids go to Mexico, get drunk and drive home. Near some of the border towns, law enforcement sets up checkpoints and cards carloads of kids. It is illegal for anyone, under 18, to leave the country without parental permission. Every weekend, they turn back loads of kids - you'd think that they'd learn!

Some bars and restaurants aren't too careful, about carding either. A few weeks ago, Liquor Control agents went into a Japanese restaurant and found that EVERY customer in the place was underage and was drinking. They have now lost their liquor license.
post #9 of 37
Typical, Cindy! The young alcoholic in our family was never refused or carded in any bar he ever entered, from the age of 16 on. He is now a young father, with another baby on the way, and is on house arrest. Since he has had several DWI's now, this is his last chance to avoid prison. I hope the drinking age is kept at 21, but enforced for a change. Send some young looking shills into the bars and see if they're carded. If not, take away the liquor license of the owner, and fine him/her heavily. Too many young teens are killing themselves and others. They lack the judgment at 18, and probably older. That's why the government prefers to send kids to war; they think they can't die!
post #10 of 37
I'm not really concerned with the drinking age. Before I was of legal age, I drank A LOT more then I do now. I would drink almost any chance I could get, but now and for the past three years I just take it as it comes, and pass it up more often then not.

I don't care about a drinking age, it really depends on the person who's drinking it, regaurdless if they are 18 or 21, if your a stupid drunk, then your a stupid drunk at 16 or 50.
post #11 of 37
Many years ago when I lived in Texas, the legal age for drinking was 21 UNLESS you were a member of the armed forces. If you were a soldier you could drink no matter how old you were!
post #12 of 37
My sister made the grandfather clause where she could drink at 18, before it was raised by blackmail of highway funds up to 21. 18-21 year olds could only legally drink 3.2% alcohol (mainly beer), nothing hard or even "real" beer until 21. I think that system worked well, personally. At that age they are going to drink a lot just to drink a lot. At least they weren't getting as drunk as if they were drinking the same amount of hard stuff. Also, in the clubs, the bouncers and owners (theoretically) could see better if they were OK to drive home. Obviously illegal raves and house parties generally don't care if you are OK to drive.
post #13 of 37
Sorry gang, but I am old enough to remember the drinking age at 18. I am glad it is 21. There are waaaay too many irresponsible teens to lower it to 18 again. As to this argument of being sent to war, but not drinking, let's not forget that every one of these soldiers has joined the military voluntarily. Nobody has been drafted, to my knowledge. Back in my time, NJ caved to the 18 drinking age because it was 18 in NY. In my area, many drove upstate so they could drink. We lost quite a few kids in high school to drunk driving fatalities. Statistics prove that teens are already a higher risk behind the wheel. No need to add alcohol to the mix.
post #14 of 37
At least, with the military, one is trained to handle situations. There's no "boot camp", for drinking responsibly.

In years past, military personnel could drink, on post (Enlisted Club, NCO Club), regardles of age. Now, military posts comply with whatever the local drinking age is.
post #15 of 37
Deb's post reminded me of Prom night about ten years ago. I remembered a whole car full of drunken teens dying in an accident on Prom night when I was in high school. The students thought it was funny that I even suggested that they not drink and drive that night. They were all so sure it couldn't possibly happen to them!
post #16 of 37
The first day of senior high school we all sat in the auditorium, and the principal opened by saying that not all of us would make it to graduation day, three years down the road. He wasn't referring to academics or dropping out, but to dying. Sadly, he was right. Every class lost at least one member before graduation, and all too often to a drinking and driving related incident. Teens already think they are invincible. No sense to me in stacking the deck against them.
post #17 of 37

As soon as I turned 21 they lowered the drinking age to 18 in Maryland and Virginia. In DC it was already 18 to buy wine and beer. It didn't stay 18 for long. They turned it back to 21 and I don't remember the reason. I lived in Maryland but worked in DC so it was no problem for me to get beer or wine in DC. The teenagers that drank drove into DC to get their booze. I always looked older than my age. When I was 18 I could buy any kind of booze and was never carded.

post #18 of 37
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As soon as I turned 21 they lowered the drinking age to 18 in Maryland and Virginia. In DC it was already 18 to buy wine and beer. It didn't stay 18 for long. They turned it back to 21 and I don't remember the reason. I lived in Maryland but worked in DC so it was no problem for me to get beer or wine in DC. The teenagers that drank drove into DC to get their booze. I always looked older than my age. When I was 18 I could buy any kind of booze and was never carded.


 You've just revived a 14 year old thread, @Muffy :)

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 You've just revived a 14 year old thread, @Muffy:)

I apologize. I did not mean to do it. I clicked on the last section of the thread (101) out of habit and did not notice  the dates. I'm about ready to quit this forum. I just keep making mistakes. I guess I'm getting senile.  

post #20 of 37
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 You've just revived a 14 year old thread, @Muffy:)

I apologize. I did not mean to do it. I clicked on the last section of the thread (101) out of habit and did not notice  the dates. I'm about ready to quit this forum. I just keep making mistakes. I guess I'm getting senile.  


  It's absolutely fine, @Muffy.. I think it's quite brilliant!  And I haven't seen a single mistake.  hugs.gif

post #21 of 37
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 You've just revived a 14 year old thread, @Muffy:)

 

I'm sorry. When I went to IMO thread I must have click on the last number instead of the first one accidentdly 

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  It's absolutely fine, @Muffy.. I think it's quite brilliant!  And I haven't seen a single mistake.  hugs.gif

Thanks, Mani.

 

I did make another mistake but since you did not notice I'm not going to mention it.

 

I have a question on the thread about asking questions. Would I have to go back and check every question already posted to make sure it has not been asked before?

post #22 of 37
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I have a question on the thread about asking questions. Would I have to go back and check every question already posted to make sure it has not been asked before?

That would be asking way too much in such a long thread. You could use the "Search this thread" function, but once a thread has reached several hundred posts, most people aren't going to recall the questions or replies already posted.
post #23 of 37
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That would be asking way too much in such a long thread. You could use the "Search this thread" function, but once a thread has reached several hundred posts, most people aren't going to recall the questions or replies already posted.

OK. Thanks for answering. I always wondered about that.

 

Ellen

post #24 of 37

The debate continues!

 

They raised the age to buy tobacco in California to 21. Seems like backer is worse than booze, at least booze in moderation. (But what fun is that?)

post #25 of 37
I think, in general, they need to pick an age at which someone is a legal adult and make that consistent in regards to all adult activities. Is it 18? Is it 21? Pick one and stick with it.

I do think that lowering the legal drinking age would take a lot of the fun out of it for college students tongue.gif.
post #26 of 37
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I think, in general, they need to pick an age at which someone is a legal adult and make that consistent in regards to all adult activities. Is it 18? Is it 21? Pick one and stick with it.

I do think that lowering the legal drinking age would take a lot of the fun out of it for college students tongue.gif.


Gee 18 seems a bit arbitrary.

 

Why not 16? Like in Iceland?

post #27 of 37
When it comes to the drinking age, and maybe voting, 16 would probably be good age. The American attitude toward alcohol is terrible, and leads to a lot of problems. If people knew their kid could legally buy alcohol at age 16 they might be more inclined to teach them about responsible drinking. But I don't think 16-year-olds ought to be considered legal adults. At any rate the drinking age shouldn't come after legal adulthood, that's just nonsense.
post #28 of 37
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When it comes to the drinking age, and maybe voting, 16 would probably be good age. The American attitude toward alcohol is terrible, and leads to a lot of problems. If people knew their kid could legally buy alcohol at age 16 they might be more inclined to teach them about responsible drinking. But I don't think 16-year-olds ought to be considered legal adults. At any rate the drinking age shouldn't come after legal adulthood, that's just nonsense.


You should go to Europe

 

As should I

post #29 of 37
And I don't even drink! tongue.gif
post #30 of 37

I think that anyone who is considered old enough to go to war should be considered an adult and have all the legal entitlements that that entails. 

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