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post #1 of 15
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For After he wins next week.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5051118.ece


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Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve. The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair".

The aide said that Mr Obama himself was the first to realise that expectations risked being inflated.

I'm sure this can be explained away by Barack with a simple wave of his hand.
post #2 of 15
I think it's unrealistic to expect either McCain or Obama to be able to quickly clean up the mess that George W. will have left them. I believe that no matter which of the 2 gets elected, there will be disappointment and promises broken because until they actually are in office and privy to real facts of how much mess there is to clean up, they are just making assumptions during this campaign. Reality will set in once they see first-hand what they have to deal with.
post #3 of 15
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Sounds to me like Obama's campaign realizes full well that he has been lying through his teeth for quite awhile.
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I think it's unrealistic to expect either McCain or Obama to be able to quickly clean up the mess that George W. will have left them. I believe that no matter which of the 2 gets elected, there will be disappointment and promises broken because until they actually are in office and privy to real facts of how much mess there is to clean up, they are just making assumptions during this campaign. Reality will set in once they see first-hand what they have to deal with.
100 days is not much more than 3 months. No one can be expected to straighten out all these problems in such a short time. I don't recall either candidate promising that these problems would be solved that quickly.
post #5 of 15
I feel sorry for whichever one gets into office, because there is no way either one of them can change this country overnight..it's impossible. I think some Americans might think that once one or the other is elected things are going to suddenly change. No. Things have been messed up for years, long before GWB got into office.

Neither candidates are "god", they can't part the Red Sea, and they can't solve the countries problems in a week, a month or a year. Each candidate makes promises that he can't keep. That is the nature of an election. This is what I'm going to work for. No one actually thinks changes are going to happen overnight and anyone that they are highly misinformed.

I'm not for Obama (you know that) but I don't see anything wrong with them warning people that the "change" is going to take more time than they originally thought. Hey, it might even work in our favor and people may want someone more experienced to deal with this.
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Originally Posted by ConsumerKitty View Post
100 days is not much more than 3 months. No one can be expected to straighten out all these problems in such a short time. I don't recall either candidate promising that these problems would be solved that quickly.
If he didn't promise anything, why is he lowering the bar.

I know why he is lowering the bar. He is going to do exactly the same thing all Democratic Presidents do, raise taxes in this first 100 days.
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
If he didn't promise anything, why is he lowering the bar.
I don't think that he is. Reading that article gave me the impression that this is a play for undecided voters. Most of them have been hearing the rumors about Obama. And even though a lot of them don't have any substance, they have them concerned anyway. This is, IMO, a hint of reassurance to them that if Obama is elected, things won't really change all that much and maybe it will be alright after all.

post #8 of 15
"Obama lowering the Bar already"

how can he lower the bar, when he has not set one yet?
when you dont say anything, there is nothing to hold up.

gee i guess this women is in for some real heart break
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by ConsumerKitty View Post
100 days is not much more than 3 months. No one can be expected to straighten out all these problems in such a short time. I don't recall either candidate promising that these problems would be solved that quickly.
Just for funsies, you might want to check out what Nancy Pelosi promised would happen in her first 100 hours.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100600056.html

You'll note almost none of it got done, even when she changed it to the "first 100 hours in session," which for the senate is about a month.
post #10 of 15
I really like Thomas Sowell. He puts pen to paper in a way that resonates with many people.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...GY1Yjg0ZTVkMmY

After the big gamble on subprime mortgages that led to the current financial crisis, is there going to be an even bigger gamble, by putting the fate of a nation in the hands of a man whose only qualifications are ego and mouth?

Barack Obama has the kind of cocksure confidence that can only be achieved by not achieving anything else.

After the big gamble on subprime mortgages that led to the current financial crisis, is there going to be an even bigger gamble, by putting the fate of a nation in the hands of a man whose only qualifications are ego and mouth?

Barack Obama has the kind of cocksure confidence that can only be achieved by not achieving anything else.

Anyone who has actually had to take responsibility for consequences by running any kind of enterprise— whether economic or academic, or even just managing a sports team— is likely at some point to be chastened by either the setbacks brought on by his own mistakes or by seeing his successes followed by negative consequences that he never anticipated.

The kind of self-righteous self-confidence that has become Obama’s trademark is usually found in sophomores in Ivy League colleges— very bright and articulate students, utterly untempered by experience in the real world.

post #11 of 15
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My mother heard some young, female, ardent Obama supporter being interviewed on why she is voting for Obama.

She was just gushing, "Obama is going to give me money, I will be able to buy a car, Obama is going to pay my college tuition and get me good paying job, etc. etc, etc"

Good grief.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
My mother heard some young, female, ardent Obama supporter being interviewed on why she is voting for Obama.

She was just gushing, "Obama is going to give me money, I will be able to buy a car, Obama is going to pay my college tuition and get me good paying job, etc. etc, etc"

Good grief.
Not quite. Your mother probably say a conservative blogger's, Mark Impomial, post about a young Obama supporter which he claims says I won't have to work pay my mortgage or work to put gas in my car. What she really said was I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage etc. See this link for the video.

http://news.aol.com/political-machin...ut-a-low-blow/
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Originally Posted by peachytoday View Post
Not quite. Your mother probably say a conservative blogger's, Mark Impomial, post about a young Obama supporter which he claims says I won't have to work pay my mortgage or work to put gas in my car. What she really said was I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage etc. See this link for the video.

http://news.aol.com/political-machin...ut-a-low-blow/
i guess you did not check out the link i posted.
give it a shot.
post #14 of 15
It's Obama. The bar can't go any lower unless you start scraping the bottom of slimy rocks.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
i guess you did not check out the link i posted.
give it a shot.
I have no idea what you are talking about. The lady said she won't have to worry, idealistic but she isn't looking for a hand out which I was responding to someone else about. I think no matter who get elected there are alot of campaign promises are not going to meet expectations. That goes for both candidates.
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