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I have a young (about 6 months old) kitten. He started as the calmest, laziest little thing, but he soon became a rael demon. He'll throw everything on the floor, he's constantly running after me and jumping on me, he tears to shreds everything he can lay his paws on and most importantly he constantly goes in places where he isn't supposed to go.
Now, I know all cats start like this and need to be taught what not to do. My mom has a cat (now ten year old), and she started out that way too. But she'll at least respond to discipline. She doesn't like it, and she breaks the rules whenever she can, but she clearly knows what she shouldn't do.
My mom made it a habit of yelling "NO!" when she went to places where she wasn't supposed to go, and she occasionally slapped her on the ass when she did something really bad. Nothing really violent, just a jolt to remind her not to do that again. It didn't take long before she learned that when she got yelled at she had to stop what she was doing, and in the rare occasions when she gets slapped she'll instantly run away and not repeat the offense for a while.
My cat is not like that.
If I yell at him, je just looks at me for a moment, then resumes whatever he was doing (actually he might not even bother to look). If I slap him, he thinks I want to play and launches himself on my hand, claws and teeth ready for action. And he absolutely will not understand that there are places where he must not go.
It's not like he understands but does it anyway; he just doesn't get it. He assumes every place is free for the walking, and ignores any attempt at teaching him otherwise.
My mom's cat will, of course, go to places where she shouldn't if she thinks nobody's looking. And that's fine with me, really - unlike my mom, I have no illusions of managing to keep the cat away from the kitchen table even when I'm not in the room.
But I do want my cat away from my workshop/bedroom table and computer desk, because I have a lot of sensitive electronics up there and I don't want him throwing it all on the floor. And since I lock my room when I'm not in it, I'd be perfectly fine with him only behaving when I'm nearby.
But he doesn't behave. He's completely insensitive to discipline.
He jumps on the desk, I grab him, yell "NO!" and put him down. He does it again, and I drop him down again after slapping him. Repeat about ten to twenty times (and no, I'm not making up numbers). What puzzles me is that he doesn't even change his attempts. He doesn't even wait for me to get distracted or go away. He gets dropped down, turns around and just jumps back up, again and again and again, until I get tired and lock him outside the room. At which point, of course, he starts meowing incessantly, to the point where I sometimes have to put on earplugs if I hope to be even slightly productive (I work at home).
It's come to the point where I've gotten a water sprayer. Before you eat me alive, I'll say that I am very aware that it's an evil thing that I shouldn't ever use on a cat, but it's the one thing he reacts to. I only ever use it when he truly infuriates me, and I cringe every time I do; fortunately after the first few sprayings he got afraid enough of the thing that he runs away when I just point it at him without spraying.
But even that is an extremely short term solution; after five minutes (sometimes less) he'll have forgotten everything, and he'll resume his attempts at getting on the table/desk.
Believe me, I'd want nothing more than to toss the sprayer in the trash and never ever have to subject my cat to it again. Whenever I have to use it I feel like the worst piece of excrement on the planet.
I'm at a loss. All other (non-wild) cats I've seen show varying degrees of obedience to their owner's orders, but at least they show something. Mine just ignores me, utterly and completely, unless I threaten to spray him.
I don't know what to do.
I've been told he'll calm down once he's neutered, but I'm afraid he'll just go from "utterly and hopelessly insane" to simply "insane".
Help.
Now, I know all cats start like this and need to be taught what not to do. My mom has a cat (now ten year old), and she started out that way too. But she'll at least respond to discipline. She doesn't like it, and she breaks the rules whenever she can, but she clearly knows what she shouldn't do.
My mom made it a habit of yelling "NO!" when she went to places where she wasn't supposed to go, and she occasionally slapped her on the ass when she did something really bad. Nothing really violent, just a jolt to remind her not to do that again. It didn't take long before she learned that when she got yelled at she had to stop what she was doing, and in the rare occasions when she gets slapped she'll instantly run away and not repeat the offense for a while.
My cat is not like that.
If I yell at him, je just looks at me for a moment, then resumes whatever he was doing (actually he might not even bother to look). If I slap him, he thinks I want to play and launches himself on my hand, claws and teeth ready for action. And he absolutely will not understand that there are places where he must not go.
It's not like he understands but does it anyway; he just doesn't get it. He assumes every place is free for the walking, and ignores any attempt at teaching him otherwise.
My mom's cat will, of course, go to places where she shouldn't if she thinks nobody's looking. And that's fine with me, really - unlike my mom, I have no illusions of managing to keep the cat away from the kitchen table even when I'm not in the room.
But I do want my cat away from my workshop/bedroom table and computer desk, because I have a lot of sensitive electronics up there and I don't want him throwing it all on the floor. And since I lock my room when I'm not in it, I'd be perfectly fine with him only behaving when I'm nearby.
But he doesn't behave. He's completely insensitive to discipline.
He jumps on the desk, I grab him, yell "NO!" and put him down. He does it again, and I drop him down again after slapping him. Repeat about ten to twenty times (and no, I'm not making up numbers). What puzzles me is that he doesn't even change his attempts. He doesn't even wait for me to get distracted or go away. He gets dropped down, turns around and just jumps back up, again and again and again, until I get tired and lock him outside the room. At which point, of course, he starts meowing incessantly, to the point where I sometimes have to put on earplugs if I hope to be even slightly productive (I work at home).
It's come to the point where I've gotten a water sprayer. Before you eat me alive, I'll say that I am very aware that it's an evil thing that I shouldn't ever use on a cat, but it's the one thing he reacts to. I only ever use it when he truly infuriates me, and I cringe every time I do; fortunately after the first few sprayings he got afraid enough of the thing that he runs away when I just point it at him without spraying.
But even that is an extremely short term solution; after five minutes (sometimes less) he'll have forgotten everything, and he'll resume his attempts at getting on the table/desk.
Believe me, I'd want nothing more than to toss the sprayer in the trash and never ever have to subject my cat to it again. Whenever I have to use it I feel like the worst piece of excrement on the planet.
I'm at a loss. All other (non-wild) cats I've seen show varying degrees of obedience to their owner's orders, but at least they show something. Mine just ignores me, utterly and completely, unless I threaten to spray him.
I don't know what to do.
Help.