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Ted Stevens, guilty on 7 counts

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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...SCGcgD94328P80

He's running for Alaska's senator right now. And he's guilty of felony charges. Each charge could bring him 7 years in prison (35 years max time). Should he step down from office right now, or ride thru the election until they hand down sentencing? Unless immediately pardoned by Bush, he wouldn't be able to serve his term in office, as he would be in prison.

It's not entirely far out that he could win the election. He's the longest seated senator in Washington and has been popular in his state. Remember that Mel Carnahan beat out John Ashcroft in Missouri a few weeks after he died (yes, a dead person won that election). Anything can happen in an election year.
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...SCGcgD94328P80

He's running for Alaska's senator right now. And he's guilty of felony charges. Each charge could bring him 7 years in prison (35 years max time). Should he step down from office right now, or ride thru the election until they hand down sentencing? Unless immediately pardoned by Bush, he wouldn't be able to serve his term in office, as he would be in prison.

It's not entirely far out that he could win the election. He's the longest seated senator in Washington and has been popular in his state. Remember that Mel Carnahan beat out John Ashcroft in Missouri a few weeks after he died (yes, a dead person won that election). Anything can happen in an election year.
Actually, I think he has an excellent shot at an appeal. To have a juror dismissed during deliberations of all times, cast a very dubious light on the entire thing.
post #3 of 19
I think he has proved himself to be a not so honourable man, and should step down. I like how he came out and blamed his wife for it as well... Like he didn't know he was being given free stuff!
post #4 of 19
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McCain asked him to step down today. It doesn't look like he wants to have anything to do with it.
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1 down, 534 more to go.
True dat!
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Alaska seems to tolerate a little more corruption than other states do. I think it is because of the oil money they have. It makes for an atmosphere ripe for corruption.
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Alaska seems to tolerate a little more corruption than other states do. I think it is because of the oil money they have. It makes for an atmosphere ripe for corruption.
I don't agree with that at all. It has nothing to do with a particular state, people who are open to corruption will fall to it wherever they are. Look at the scandals in New Jersey, New York, Illinois.
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Alaska seems to tolerate a little more corruption than other states do. I think it is because of the oil money they have. It makes for an atmosphere ripe for corruption.
Seems to me that many, if not all in Congress (and politics in general) practice the old "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" policy so I don't know how you can single out Alaska as being more tolerant of it than any other state. Two words; term limits.
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Seems to me that many, if not all in Congress (and politics in general) practice the old "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" policy so I don't know how you can single out Alaska as being more tolerant of it than any other state. Two words; term limits.
I remember a Harrison Ford movie, the title of which I can't remember, where the "President" told Harrison Ford it was called "the Potomac two-step"
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Seems to me that many, if not all in Congress (and politics in general) practice the old "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" policy so I don't know how you can single out Alaska as being more tolerant of it than any other state. Two words; term limits.
I would agree with most of what you are saying but I watching a journalist from Alaska talk about how there is a tolerance of a certain amount of corruption in Alaska and went down a list of different scandals and politicians involved. He made the statement about there being so much money there for a relatively small population.
I believe it because how else can you explain Stevens, winning his primary and being so close in the polls? I can't imagine him being in the running anymore in many places. Certainly not here. Not with that amount of scandal.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connel...67_joel30.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,4616462.story

I am not alluding to Palin's ethics issues when I said that about Alaska. Stevens, Murkowski, Stevens' son and a few others were on my mind when I made that comment.
post #12 of 19
Aw, Palin must be so sad. Completely biased: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...981/755/579946
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Aw, Palin must be so sad. Completely biased: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...981/755/579946
Hey - did you hear that Palin got her start in politics in the living room of a convicted felon?
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I agree with that but I watching a journalist from Alaska talk about how there is a tolerance of a certain amount of corruption in Alaska and went down a list of different scandals and politicians involved. He made the statement about there being so much money there for a relatively small population.
I believe it because how else can you explain Stevens, winning his primary and being so close in the polls? I can't imagine him being in the running anymore in many places. Certainly not here. Not with that amount of scandal.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connel...67_joel30.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,4616462.story
There is, "a certain amount of corruption" EVERYWHERE, not just in Alaska.

What about the citizens of New Orleans? Re-electing that idiot Nagin that threw them under the bus during Katrina.

What about that idiot Senator in LA that they found $90,000 in bribe money in his freezer. Funny, how you never hear about that guy isn't it?
I think the moron even sits on a committee that has to do with National Security. Only in America.
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Aw, Palin must be so sad. Completely biased: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...981/755/579946
Want to talk about scrubbing websites, let's talk about Obama's weekly scrubbing of his.
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Hey - did you hear that Palin got her start in politics in the living room of a convicted felon?
Long before he was a felon.

Unlike THE ONE who got his start in the living room of a self proclaimed terrorist who is proud of his terrorist activities AND said terrorist activities had ALREADY happned when Obama was his good buddy.

But I'm sure some will say I am "splitting hairs"
post #17 of 19
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Long before he was a felon.

Unlike THE ONE who got his start in the living room of a self proclaimed terrorist who is proud of his terrorist activities AND said terrorist activities had ALREADY happned when Obama was his good buddy.

But I'm sure some will say I am "splitting hairs"
Come on Cindy, we could go tit for tat all day long!
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Come on Cindy, we could go tit for tat all day long!
I think I am in one of those silly moods today.
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I think I am in one of those silly moods today.
We're all getting punch drunk from the election!
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