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http://www.geo.tv/10-26-2008/27599.htm


"LAS VEGAS: Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama has said that if he were voted into power, then he would not only change America, but the entire world also."

Modest, ain't he?

from a Pakistani paper Seems to say, ‘Behold, the king has arrived.. I shall lead the world out of darkness. this guy has a real issue.
post #2 of 27
Many of us in other countries think Obama will make many changes - all for the good.
post #3 of 27
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lol yea right sure. The only thing obama has ever changed in his life, his speechs based on what city he is in

out side of that, he has done nothing.
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Well, it won't be long now and we shall see. Apparently a poll was undertaken and most Torontonians would vote for Obama if they could vote in the American election. Interesting.
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of course, they would. A weak person in that seat, is good for everyone else.
Like clinton signed nafta.

if obama gets elected I'm just waiting for him to realize that people like Putin, and the leaders of China and Iran couldn't care less what he thinks. I hope we can survive his shock if it comes to it.
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Don't be so naive to think that the policies in the U.S. don't affect a great part of the world. If any president changes our internal policies, the rest of the world will change. Why do you think that so many countries outside the U.S. are rooting for Obama? They hate what 8 years of "W" has done to them.
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Don't be so naive to think that the policies in the U.S. don't affect a great part of the world. If any president changes our internal policies, the rest of the world will change. Why do you think that so many countries outside the U.S. are rooting for Obama? They hate what 8 years of "W" has done to them.
Bingo!

It truly is naive to think that anyone outside the US is not keenly interested in what is happening within the US. Most of us realize that changes in the US can and will impact on other nations. I don't think you'll find many people who have any respect left for George W and I personally see McCain as just another George in a different body.

As for NAFTA - that treaty only benefited the US. Canada and Mexico got mostly nothing out of it so I wouldn't even bring that up.
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Don't be so naive to think that the policies in the U.S. don't affect a great part of the world. If any president changes our internal policies, the rest of the world will change. Why do you think that so many countries outside the U.S. are rooting for Obama? They hate what 8 years of "W" has done to them.
And who's preaching the loudest for Change?

And in case you haven't noticed, the rest of the world is a tad more Socialist than the US, so I reckon they'd feel most comfortable with what they hear from BHO.
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And who's preaching the loudest for Change?
I have no idea what you are implying here. Both candidates are stating that they will change Washington.
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All I'll say is R E V E L A T I O N.....and change NOT for the better! Remember that Obama IS out of Musilum roots - no matter what he claims.
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All I'll say is R E V E L A T I O N.....and change NOT for the better! Remember that Obama IS out of Musilum roots - no matter what he claims.
It's "Muslim", but may I ask what his father being Muslim that has to do with this?
post #12 of 27
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All I'll say is R E V E L A T I O N.....and change NOT for the better! Remember that Obama IS out of Musilum roots - no matter what he claims.
Which makes absolutely no difference. Even if he were a Muslim now, it's quite legal and socially acceptable in the United States. As Powell said, we have Muslims fighting and dying for this country right now.
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Which makes absolutely no difference. Even if he were a Muslim now, it's quite legal and socially acceptable in the United States. As Powell said, we have Muslims fighting and dying for this country right now.
Just as blacks fought and died in past wars for the US and Canada. If they are good enough to fight for the country then they have as much right as anyone else to run for office in that country.

I really don't see Obama winning many states in the deep south but hopefully he'll do well in the rest of the US.
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Just as blacks fought and died in past wars for the US and Canada. If they are good enough to fight for the country then they have as much right as anyone else to run for office in that country.

I really don't see Obama winning many states in the deep south but hopefully he'll do well in the rest of the US.
I don't know how many there are in actual numbers, be Obama has a really vocal following in Kentucky, and at least a couple of large concentrated groups. They're even going after McConnell's seat this time, and are so close that he's actually out campaigning. He hasn't had to do that in about 12 years.
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Us hicks in America aren't to thrilled with NAFTA either.

Sorry, but this has been covered before, I could care less who the people of Toronto think should be elected.
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Us hicks in America aren't to thrilled with NAFTA either.

Sorry, but this has been covered before, I could care less who the people of Toronto think should be elected.
Well, we care enough for all of us and you folks too.
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Us hicks in America aren't to thrilled with NAFTA either.

Sorry, but this has been covered before, I could care less who the people of Toronto think should be elected.
Actually, this hick is quite happy with NAFTA. At the moment, our domestic market is softening a tad, while one of our most lucrative contracts is with a company called H.E.B.; in Mexico.
post #18 of 27
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I have no idea what you are implying here. Both candidates are stating that they will change Washington.
Erm, no. BHO says he will "change the world."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ml?mobile=true
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Erm, no. BHO says he will "change the world."
So are you saying that the "maverick" party is going to keep it the same as Bush?
post #20 of 27
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So are you saying that the "maverick" party is going to keep it the same as Bush?
This thread's about your candidate, not mine.
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This thread's about your candidate, not mine.
Actually, all the political threads are being made comparisons, by one camp or the other. There's no reason to stop now.
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Actually, all the political threads are being made comparisons, by one camp or the other. There's no reason to stop now.
A good debate has positions expressed from multiple points of view. It's the only way you can contrast an argument. And I think we are all doing a fine job with our opinions.

If Obama plans to change the world, what are the mavericks claiming to do? Every president will change the world in some form or fashion.
post #23 of 27
I can do without Obama and his brand of change.

Increase the taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year? Go for it. What kind of message does that send? If you're successful I'll punish you for it? Please. The majority of people who make over that amount are more than likely small business owners, who also employ the majority of Americans. Doing that could hamper their ability to hire new employees which will lead to less jobs being available. The consumers will also feel the brunt of it by the increased cost of goods and services.

I didn't even mention Congress yet. Think they would really go for it considering most of them probably earn more than $250,000 in income every year? I don't. That cuts into their money and that's a pretty greedy lot of people.

Health care? In no way shape or form do I want the government in charge of health care. It might start out okay but it in a few years it will morph into the same thing that everything else run by the government does. A tedious, cumbersome, bureaucratic nightmare that is more concerned with politics and red tape than providing help or services. You want the government involved in health care? Just look at the VA. Everything the government touches turns to .

Obama will have to raise taxes for his increases in social welfare, not just taxes for the "rich". He may not mess with income taxes for half of Americans but he'll find some way to increase taxes on everything that is already taxed and make up some new ones to boot. I'm not against helping those who legitimately need help. I know what it's like to struggle to make ends meet and put food on the table (or to decide between the two). I have a good job now but I still live paycheck to paycheck and until recently have worked two or three jobs to try and make ends meet. I don't want anything from anybody. Share the wealth? Share . There is no such thing as a classless society and there never will be.

Notice I didn't say anything about McCain being a better option. To be honest I don't know if we could be any better off under McCain but I think Obama can make things a lot worse. No thanks.
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Good post, Bryan.
post #25 of 27
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http://www.geo.tv/10-26-2008/27599.htm


"LAS VEGAS: Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama has said that if he were voted into power, then he would not only change America, but the entire world also."

Modest, ain't he?

from a Pakistani paper Seems to say, ‘Behold, the king has arrived.. I shall lead the world out of darkness. this guy has a real issue.

I don't understand why you think that is a bad thing. Right now the whole world is having problems and a lot of the world relies on how the us is doing. Look at what the bad economy here has done to other countries. Not only that if Obama can change the view many countries have on America why would that be a bad thing?
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
All I'll say is R E V E L A T I O N.....and change NOT for the better! Remember that Obama IS out of Musilum roots - no matter what he claims.
and??????? Who cares if he does have muslim roots. Muslim is one of the largest religion so many people are bound to have Muslim roots. Even so it doesn't matter there is nothing wrong with being Muslim
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This thread's about your candidate, not mine.
So people have the right to make a comparison when they feel someone else is making ridiculous accusations about on candidate.
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