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post #1 of 9
10/23/08 at 7:35pm
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"Editor's note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism."

at least someone is missing real journalism.

http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html
post #2 of 9
10/23/08 at 9:05pm
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post #3 of 9
10/23/08 at 9:24pm
It's going to be dark for a long time, Bruce. Not just about the financial crisis, but about anything political. The time of Woodward and Bernstein and Deep Throat is long gone. Well, maybe not completely gone since it was a Republican President that they took down. But considering the amount of respect that was given to the President and members of his Administration as well as to members of Congress - just because of who they were, not dependent on their political philosophy.

The only thing is that he is actually wrong about when it started - the beginnings of those regulations actually started under Carter, continued and grew under Reagan and Bush 41, but then were expanded to the point of the catastrophe that is our current financial crisis under Clinton. The truth would take a whole lot more than one column to explain, which is probably why he went for the condensed version. But it's not all the Democrats' fault, though in the time that it was the worst and could have been fixed it was the Dems who blocked any possible reformation of the regulations. And I'm sure that not all Republicans wanted to reform the regulations and hold Fannie, Freddie and the banks accountable for the horrid accounting practices that made this possible.
post #4 of 9
10/24/08 at 3:20am
A lot of people miss it.
Cable news and newspapers have all dumbed down the information and no one does investigative reporting anymore. The news is corporate owned and usually there is a bias involved. Neither the left or right are happy with the reporting anymore.
We are living Citizen Kane and don't even know it. The right and left point fingers at each other but the problem is beyond political parties, left or right or anything. It is about good old fashioned well researched reporting. If I pick up a Harpers I can read some interesting articles. I have to search a bit for the powerful stuff but it is getting harder to find.
I will read non fiction books on subjects instead.
post #5 of 9
10/24/08 at 7:08am
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A lot of people miss it.
Cable news and newspapers have all dumbed down the information and no one does investigative reporting anymore. The news is corporate owned and usually there is a bias involved. Neither the left or right are happy with the reporting anymore.
We are living Citizen Kane and don't even know it. The right and left point fingers at each other but the problem is beyond political parties, left or right or anything. It is about good old fashioned well researched reporting. If I pick up a Harpers I can read some interesting articles. I have to search a bit for the powerful stuff but it is getting harder to find.
I will read non fiction books on subjects instead.
Absolutely agree. All media does today is pick up sound bytes around them and report them as news. Then other members of the media amplify them if it sounds like a good sound byte. If you watch journalists today, a good majority of reporting is simply "he said this". Any good journalist worth a grain of salt is repressed by their companies philosophical views when they try to bring up fact based information. Think of what happened to Dan Rather a few years back.

I personally read scientific magazines.
post #6 of 9
10/24/08 at 7:52am
My degree had a specialization in Journalism, although the college I went to didn't have a specific Journalism degree at that time. So I know people in the business, and where their attitudes came from.

By the way, Orson Scott Card's "Enders Game" is one of the truly classic science fiction books.
post #7 of 9
10/24/08 at 7:58am
IMO, it was the death of the Fairness Doctrine that allowed anyone to broadcast/publish anything they wanted without any recourse. It allowed the media to start to dumb down its message, as it allowed "anything goes".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

And for the record, its not that I support its resurection, I just feel that it triggered where we are in journalism today.
post #8 of 9
10/31/08 at 11:13am
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...GNhMTc3ZjYyMWM


The End of Journalism
Sometime in 2008, journalism as we knew it died, and advocacy media took its place.
post #9 of 9
10/31/08 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...GNhMTc3ZjYyMWM


The End of Journalism
Sometime in 2008, journalism as we knew it died, and advocacy media took its place.
may it rest in peace
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