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post #1 of 40
10/20/08 at 8:43am
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...to-suppor.html


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Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables"
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ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.
post #2 of 40
10/20/08 at 8:49am
With all the anti-Israel rhetoric that likely will abound, we'll probably called to intervene somewhere. Question is will it be for or against our good friends.
post #3 of 40
10/20/08 at 11:22am
Hmmm.... after a little more pondering, is this maybe an extension of the Cloward Piven strategy? I'd suspected it was in play as a result of the whole mortgage meltdown.... but could realistically be broad enough to include a foreign crisis.
post #4 of 40
10/21/08 at 10:04am
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When MSNBC and Dan Rather notice the double-standard, you know there's a problem with the MSM.

Not even a whisper from any Obama supporters on this site. Hmmmm

For the video of Joe Biden and comment by Dan Rather and MSNBC

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=202343


They bring up a very good point, if Sarah Palin had said, what Biden said, about John McCain, the media would be going nuts.

Ahhh the hypocrisy of the media.
post #5 of 40
10/21/08 at 10:34am
He's gonna be here in town Thursday. Maybe I'll snag a free ticket and ask him.

Wonder if he'll be as candid as BHO was with Joe the Plumber.

No wait.

I can't afford the scrutiny.

I'll just take Biden's word for it that something bad will happen and we'll have to wait while BHO and the crew figures out what to do.

We thought the Bay of Pigs went badly. I can hardly wait.
post #6 of 40
10/21/08 at 8:58pm
The speculation is Afghanistan is about to get out of control. Bush is shutting down his presidency and letting some things slide right now. It doesn't matter who picks up the presidency, they are going to have some ugly things to deal with right off the bat.

I'm too tired tonight to look for links about what Bush is dropping and will try to do that tomorrow.
post #7 of 40
10/21/08 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
The speculation is Afghanistan is about to get out of control. Bush is shutting down his presidency and letting some things slide right now. It doesn't matter who picks up the presidency, they are going to have some ugly things to deal with right off the bat.

I'm too tired tonight to look for links about what Bush is dropping and will try to do that tomorrow.

Iraq has been pretty quiet lately but Afghanistan has been heating up recently. I think a lot of it has to do with the foreign fighters leaving Iraq to hook up with the losers in Al-Cowards and the Taliban.
post #8 of 40
10/22/08 at 9:02pm
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I think the bad guys have heard enough about McCain, they don't need
to test him to see if he has steel in his spine. LOL
He does.
post #9 of 40
10/23/08 at 4:12am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I think the bad guys have heard enough about McCain, they don't need
to test him to see if he has steel in his spine. LOL
He does.
Not according to Leiberman. It doesn't matter who the new president is, it could be done regardless.
http://www.drudge.com/news/113959/li...rists-test-new

I doubt anyone who would strap a bomb around their body and blow themselves up is afraid of our President, no matter who it is.
post #10 of 40
10/23/08 at 10:01am
Biden says dumb crap all the time. Always has. The media isn't covering it because of the four characters in this election, he's the most boring by quite a bit. Think of the recent 'gaffes'. Palin claimed that only some of America likes America, Biden claimed that foreign leaders like to push the limits with the new kids on the block. One of those gets ratings, the other gets channel changing.

Did anyone really think we should be relying on our media for anything but entertainment? I don't. That's why I like the Daily Show-- Jon Stewart doesn't pretend he isn't just doing a half-comedy half-sorta-news show. Oh, and the comedy part is funny.

Though I will say I enjoyed Schieffer's debate moderation, and am looking forward to Brian Williams' interview with McCain and Palin together. I think he's pretty fair, he gave the address at my graduation and it was amazing and encouraged us to be active in this election regardless of who for.
post #11 of 40
10/23/08 at 5:43pm
Biden is smart enough to know, that obama is no way shap or form ready for the job.
that why he keeps giving stuff to mccain.
post #12 of 40
10/23/08 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Biden says dumb crap all the time. Always has. The media isn't covering it because of the four characters in this election, he's the most boring by quite a bit. Think of the recent 'gaffes'. Palin claimed that only some of America likes America, Biden claimed that foreign leaders like to push the limits with the new kids on the block. One of those gets ratings, the other gets channel changing.

Did anyone really think we should be relying on our media for anything but entertainment? I don't. That's why I like the Daily Show-- Jon Stewart doesn't pretend he isn't just doing a half-comedy half-sorta-news show. Oh, and the comedy part is funny.

Though I will say I enjoyed Schieffer's debate moderation, and am looking forward to Brian Williams' interview with McCain and Palin together. I think he's pretty fair, he gave the address at my graduation and it was amazing and encouraged us to be active in this election regardless of who for.
Well isn't that priceless? Why aren't the people who are scared to have Palin as VP in case McCain croaks the day after he's inaugurated, just as scared to have a man who says "dumb crap all the time" and "always has" as VP?

FTR, Palin didn't say that, you twisted her words IMO. She didn't say that at all.
post #13 of 40
10/23/08 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Well isn't that priceless? Why aren't the people who are scared to have Palin as VP in case McCain croaks the day after he's inaugurated, just as scared to have a man who says "dumb crap all the time" and "always has" as VP?

FTR, Palin didn't say that, you twisted her words IMO. She didn't say that at all.
The difference between saying stupid things at press conferences and having ideas that terrify the pants off people is so huge I don't know how to explain it to you.

If Palin just said things occasionally, but had the same record as Biden, the conversation about her would be quite different. Biden doesn't think before he speaks. Palin doesn't think.

And, yes, Cindy, she did say that, and it's pretty irrefutable that she did. She even apologized for it.
post #14 of 40
10/23/08 at 7:24pm
I dont think he his saying stupied, i think he is giving mccain talking points on stuff he should be saying.

I am starting to think he really wants obama to lose.
post #15 of 40
10/24/08 at 7:14am
McCain's campaign is taking another turn of tactics. They created an attack ad with Biden making his statement about Obama being tested. I betcha you can catch it on your Fox news station.

Does this mean that the campaign is no longer pushing Ayres?
post #16 of 40
10/24/08 at 7:35am
Judging at how he's done so far, I'd say Biden is preparing us for another 4 years of Dan Quayle as VP.
post #17 of 40
10/24/08 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Judging at how he's done so far, I'd say Biden is preparing us for another 4 years of Dan Quayle as VP.
Versus Ms. Palin, who still hasn't figured out what a VP is supposed to do?

I bet you that both of them can spell potato.
post #18 of 40
10/24/08 at 8:26am
I think the pot is cooking to have the US screw over Israel if BHO/Biden gets elected, as Jesse Jackson spoke of last week. And Biden's use of the words "manufactured crisis" wasn't coincidental.
post #19 of 40
10/24/08 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
I think the pot is cooking to have the US screw over Israel if BHO/Biden gets elected, as Jesse Jackson spoke of last week. And Biden's use of the words "manufactured crisis" wasn't coincidental.

I totally agree.
post #20 of 40
10/24/08 at 10:04am
Excerpt from "Negotiating Arab-Israeli Peace", authored by Daniel C. Kurtzer and Scott B. Lasensky. Kurtzer is a chief foreign policy advisor to BHO, along with the "resigned" but certainly still active Samantha Power.

"Washington needs to formalize and add permanence to U.S. positions on the core endgame issues of Jerusalem, refugees, security, and territory..."

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Article...8-456E795029F1

Excellent review of the content of the book, along with counterpoints.

I'm inclined to think that many voters don't consider the implications of a battle in which we place ourselves against the Israelis. I know I'd be scared to sleep at night in a country that had alienated them. They above anyone know the meaning of "innocent victims of war" and understand that is a price that sometimes must be paid.
post #21 of 40
10/24/08 at 2:06pm
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Not according to Leiberman. It doesn't matter who the new president is, it could be done regardless.
http://www.drudge.com/news/113959/li...rists-test-new

I doubt anyone who would strap a bomb around their body and blow themselves up is afraid of our President, no matter who it is.
That may be the case but Lieberman doesn't leave us questioning whether or not McCain would handle the situation properly unlike Joe Biden who says,

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"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
Doesn't really instill confindence.
post #22 of 40
10/24/08 at 2:11pm
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Thank goodness for the internet, huh?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10222008...ias_134700.htm

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Barack Obama's choice of Joe Biden as his running mate prompted a small wave of warnings about Biden's propensity for gaffes. But no one imagined even in a worse-case scenario such a spectacular bomb as telling donors Sunday to "gird your loins" because a young president Obama will be tested by an international crisis just like young President John Kennedy was.

Scary? You betcha! But somehow, not front-page news.

Again the media showed their incredible bias by giving scattered coverage of Biden's statements.

There were a few exceptions. On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," co-host Mika Brzezinski flipped incredulously through the papers, expressing shock at the lack of coverage of Biden's remarks. Guest Dan Rather admitted that if Palin had said it, the media would be going nuts.
post #23 of 40
10/24/08 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
Versus Ms. Palin, who still hasn't figured out what a VP is supposed to do?

I bet you that both of them can spell potato.
As could Quayle, by the way. It was misspelled on the teacher's flash card, but I'm willing to bet you didn't hear that at the time.
post #24 of 40
10/24/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
Versus Ms. Palin, who still hasn't figured out what a VP is supposed to do?

I bet you that both of them can spell potato.


Versus Mr. Biden who not only doesn't understand the job of the VP but also doesn't know which Article of the Constitution defines the role of the vice presidency?
post #25 of 40
10/24/08 at 3:38pm
A few opinions on conservative sites brought up an interesting theory:

Occam's Razor. The simplist explaination is usually the correct one.

Biden was briefed on some "hot spots" that the campaign thinks are potential disasters waiting to happen, and Mr. Intelligence Insider couldn't keep his mouth shut about what might happen. Like a little kid who knows about a surprise party, he has to tell SOMEONE.

Meanwhile, drums are beating in the background. Cue the music.
post #26 of 40
10/25/08 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
That may be the case but Lieberman doesn't leave us questioning whether or not McCain would handle the situation properly unlike Joe Biden who says,



Doesn't really instill confindence.
I would not vote for Obama if I didn't feel secure in his abilities.
post #27 of 40
10/25/08 at 11:06am
He tries to explain what he meant here, along with explaining some other subjects.

to Barbara West. Asking the tough questions.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html
post #28 of 40
10/25/08 at 12:15pm
And awwww.... they hurted someone's feelings with their questions.... cancelled Mrs. Biden's appearance on the same show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/servi...5927037.column

In a statement Friday, Adrianne Marsh, Florida spokeswoman for Obama's campaign, said the station, in talking with Sen. Biden, was "both combative and woefully uninformed about simple facts."In a statement Friday, Adrianne Marsh, Florida spokeswoman for Obama's campaign, said the station, in talking with Sen. Biden, was "both combative and woefully uninformed about simple facts."

BTW, John McCain was interviewed on the station previously.
post #29 of 40
11/5/08 at 11:21am
Hmmm, might it be this????

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...-election.html


Bani Ershaid said that his party, the political arm of the influential Muslim Brotherhood movement, was "cautiously optimistic" over the change promised by Obama and believed that the "starting- point for this change should find expression in a correction of the US foreign policy on Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan."

"A real change in the US policies cannot materialize without rectifying the erroneous attitude considering Israel an ally, withdrawing troops from Iraq," he said.
post #30 of 40
11/5/08 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
A computer in the basement does not a journalist make. They didn't even spell Barack correctly. This is where you are getting your information about the world?
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