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post #1 of 33
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All I have to say is... wow.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
post #2 of 33
We were just discussing those very people in another thread
post #3 of 33
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Oops... is it a duplicate? I looked but it didn't seem to be posted yet.
post #4 of 33
No, not a duplicate. It doesn't even have the video. Just very similar mindsets of the people involved.
post #5 of 33
Their sentiment is very, very disturbing.
post #6 of 33
The fellow at point 0:25 is an absolute peach, isn't he. When one votes against recognizing civil rights icons and supports flying confederate battle standards over state houses, he's the kind of person one is pandering too.
post #7 of 33
These people scare me.
post #8 of 33
On the other hand, these people make as much sense as the Hollywood crowd saying they are moving out of the country if McCain wins, because lynchings, back-alley abortions, and book burnings will be coming back.

Heaven knows the silly e-mails have gotten even sillier!
post #9 of 33
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
On the other hand, these people make as much sense as the Hollywood crowd saying they are moving out of the country if McCain wins, because lynchings, back-alley abortions, and book burnings will be coming back.

Heaven knows the silly e-mails have gotten even sillier!
Actually, I don't see the similarity. The celebrity types that claim they'll leave the country are merely playing russian roulette with their own egos. They think people will miss them if they leave. Which, I'm sure some will, but not nearly to the extent they think.

Some of the people interviewed in this video however, are bordering on dangerous.
post #10 of 33
A couple weeks from now, I will feel sorry for these people as they explode in rage. There's not really an excuse for that kind of ignorance.

This guy hung a 'ghost' from a noose with an Obama sign on it (above his McPalin sign) because he doesn't want an African-American (doubt that's the word he used) running the country... dangerously close to my hometown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbbcVNOMqSk&eurl
post #11 of 33
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
A couple weeks from now, I will feel sorry for these people as they explode in rage. There's not really an excuse for that kind of ignorance.

This guy hung a 'ghost' from a noose with an Obama sign on it (above his McPalin sign) because he doesn't want an African-American (doubt that's the word he used) running the country... dangerously close to my hometown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbbcVNOMqSk&eurl
He's also got the Star of David on the "ghost's" head.
post #12 of 33
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
The fellow at point 0:25 is an absolute peach, isn't he. When one votes against recognizing civil rights icons and supports flying confederate battle standards over state houses, he's the kind of person one is pandering too.
I don't think John McCain's record indicates he's pandering to this group at all. Since you live in a hotbed of KKK activity, I'm sure you see more of it than the rest of us do. But I seriously doubt the people in that video are getting McCain's message.

Making an holiday for MLK and banning the confederate flag won't affect these people at all.
post #13 of 33
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
I don't think John McCain's record indicates he's pandering to this group at all. Since you live in a hotbed of KKK activity, I'm sure you see more of it than the rest of us do. But I seriously doubt the people in that video are getting McCain's message.

Making an holiday for MLK and banning the confederate flag won't affect these people at all.
No, it will not. But NOT making a holiday for Martin Luther King and NOT banning the confederate standard was apparently his ploy for getting their votes. It looks as though he only abandoned those stances when he finally realized that they weren't enough.
post #14 of 33
Just to be clear, the MLK thing was at the request of the state of Arizona, who calculated what it would cost to add another holiday to the state's payroll and rejected the idea. Since McCain is their senator, the state government was completely within its rights to ask him to reject the idea.

I've lived in the south too long for the Confederate deal to mean much to me. In fact, I'm usually on the other side (Colorado, my home state, wasn't a state until 11 years later, but when the Coloradans fired their guns during the Civil War, it was to keep the Texans from taking over their mines).

I'm going to guess you don't want me to link to any video of Obama supporters being equally offensive, but let me give you a hint: Some reporters went to Harlem, asking the people there if they supported Obama's policies. Only trouble was, they used McCain's policies as Obama's, and they got a very positive response.

On the other hand, reporters might have trouble finding very many Americans who can find Harlem on a map.
post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Just so you know, the MLK thing was at the request of the state of Arizona, who calculated what it would cost to add another holiday to the state's payroll and rejected the idea. Since McCain is their senator, the state government was completely within its rights to ask him to reject the idea.
Very true. But it seems as though a maverick and "party bucker" would do what he thinks is right. That just doesn't sound very mavericky, does it?

And please, feel free to post what you like. Just don't get too offensive.
post #16 of 33
Offensive? I can't see anything like that that I've posted. And it's possible he didn't think it was right, in a time when the U.S. was reducing two President's holidays (Lincoln's and Washington's birthdays were, at one time, official holidays) to one "President's Day," to be putting another holiday back in the calendar. I don't want anyone left with the impression he just got a wild hare and opposed the MLK holiday. He says now that he regrets it, but that it was at the request of his state.

I'm an independent, and up to this point, I don't have a dog in this fight. But I have to say the posts are running about 8 to 2 here against McCain, which is odd, when he's only a couple of points behind in the polls.

I think the "maverick" thing is overblown, but without going to Olympia Snow or Lincoln Chafee, you can't get any farther away from the Republican establishment than McCain. After all, even Ann Coulter said she would vote for Hillary over McCain (somehow I doubt that she actually would have).
post #17 of 33
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And please, feel free to post what you like. Just don't get too offensive.
I actually asked Heidi about a link that was the most hateful thing I think I've seen posted, there was even a copy on BHO's website. But her good decision-making ability said not to, and I defer to her wisdom. I agree with what she told me, that it would just be somehow spun anyway.
post #18 of 33
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Offensive? I can't see anything like that that I've posted.
I was referring to videos you were talking of linking too, you said some of them were of supporters being offensive.

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I'm an independent, and up to this point, I don't have a dog in this fight.
And, honestly, I don't either. I'm still undecided between Nader and Ellen DeGeneres. I just wanted to see how long I could keep the subject from being changed. If you bring up one dark past, your bring out them all. Vis a vis
post #19 of 33
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I actually asked Heidi about a link that was the most hateful thing I think I've seen posted, there was even a copy on BHO's website. But her good decision-making ability said not to, and I defer to her wisdom. I agree with what she told me, that it would just be somehow spun anyway.
That was what the "don't get too offensive" part was about
post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
I was referring to videos you were talking of linking too, you said some of them were of supporters being offensive.
Some of them are hateful, and there's some really nasty stuff going on, including a porno movie starring a Palin lookalike (at least...I'm going to assume that it's a lookalike, since I believe it's still in production!) and some very nasty T-shirts.

I think any teacher knows that when you get people together in a crowd, it lowers everyone's intelligence about 50 points.
post #21 of 33
wow that is really sad. I can't believe people are that hateful. I wouldn't even want these people to support me if I was Mccain. I wish they would have posted people that werent so rude though. That way it doesnt make it like all Mccain suppoters are like that.
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by Krazycatlover View Post
wow that is really sad. I can't believe people are that hateful. I wouldn't even want these people to support me if I was Mccain. I wish they would have posted people that werent so rude though. That way it doesnt make it like all Mccain suppoters are like that.
They're not, honest. You can find just as many eloquent and well presented videos supporting either candidate as you can hateful ones. It just the nature of the beasts.
post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by Krazycatlover View Post
wow that is really sad. I can't believe people are that hateful. I wouldn't even want these people to support me if I was Mccain. I wish they would have posted people that werent so rude though. That way it doesnt make it like all Mccain suppoters are like that.
Bless your heart Krazycatlover for being so nice.
You are talking about Al Jazeera, that was the whole point, to make all McCain supporters look like that.

Most Middle Easterners, news organizations included apparently, would love to see Barack Obama elected. Hamas has endorsed Obama, Fidel Castro has endorsed Barack Obama, Hugo Chavez has endorsed Obama, Qaddafi of Libya has endorsed Obama, there are more but I can't remember the rest right now.
Pretty much all the bad guys are on board for Obama, I wonder why that is?
post #24 of 33
I"m not against Obama cause of his race. I'm against him for what he believes in and supports! His morals and mine are not anywhere close!
post #25 of 33
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I"m not against Obama cause of his race. I'm against him for what he believes in and supports! His morals and mine are not anywhere close!
Which makes perfect sense.

But you have to wonder about people who feel comfortable at a rally saying that stuff as if they feel that they are surrounded by like minded people.
post #26 of 33
I don't believe John McCain is a racist. At least I hope not. But his willingness to cater to his supporters that are racist has actually appalled me. It was especially bad when Sarah Palin was speaking. It was atrounding to me that she was not even slowed down, much less stopped, by the hatred and anger being expressed by the crowds. Instead she just continued to whip them up.

It's good to see that McCain has pulled back from this approach. It redeems him somewhat in my eyes. Of course, I would never vote for him anyway, so I'm not who he's trying to reach. I was just grateful that most people were equally disturbed by these rallies and so they stopped them.
post #27 of 33
You know, I really have no problem with people making an informed decision on who to vote for. I DO have a problem with people voting based on race, sex, religion, etc. But, I can't change it. There will be the informed, and the emotional, in any election.

I'm just going to keep my head down for the next couple of weeks, cast my vote, and be proud that I did so. I'll be ignoring any offense on either side of the aisle, as neither candidate has 100% well-behaved "followers."
post #28 of 33
The sad thing is too many people are "blinded" to the truth of what the candidates are saying and their intentions. Those that support one or the other are quick to defend whatever they say. Personally, I'm not for either of them - they both have too many underlying things that are more disturbing in the long run.

You will see massive changes in the US - and not for the better. I pray that God will still protect most of us; but his punishment will start soon. Only so much a Father can take from disobedient children.
post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
The sad thing is too many people are "blinded" to the truth of what the candidates are saying and their intentions. Those that support one or the other are quick to defend whatever they say. Personally, I'm not for either of them - they both have too many underlying things that are more disturbing in the long run.

You will see massive changes in the US - and not for the better. I pray that God will still protect most of us; but his punishment will start soon. Only so much a Father can take from disobedient children.
Huckabee picks McCain.
post #30 of 33
Yes, he does Neet. Huckabee would tell you to vote for McCain Golden.

Golden, he does have a regular show every weekend on Fox now. I like Huckabee now that I have gotten to know him better.
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