Which is better K/D or Purina N/F Kidney?

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Poor Coco! I had one vet that swore by Purina N/F and another that swore by SC K/D. My personal opinion with CRF cats? Give them what they like, as they go thru periods where their appetite is low, and simply eating (whatever the food) is the most important thing for them. Are you feeding wet or dry?
 

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All three of my girls eat the Purina NF wet. They will also eat the Hills k/d minced chicken canned, but will not touch the Hills k/d original flavor. They will also eat the Eukanuba Multi-Stage Renal canned, but I have a hard time finding it in this area. A vet 30 miles away carries it, and was willing to sell to me after verifying with my vet that Cleo has renal failure. Some places will only sell food if they are the ones treating the cat.
 

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Sorry you are going through this. I am not a believer in kidney foods unless in the final stages. Don't know if this type of stuff has been posted before but this my belief. Please check out the crf group
Treatment of Chronic Renal Failure

If your cat is not in final stages, this is not want you want to do. You do not want to put your cat on the
Vets low protein diet. There are simply so many better options out there than to hand the poor cat a low amount of poor quality protein - which often results in a poor appetite and muscle wasting since the body is now robbing its own muscle mass to feed itself a decent quality and amount of protein.
. There are new thoughts on this and the thinking is it is not the amount of protein but the quality of protein that matters.
The Merck veterinary manual [www.merckvetmanual.com] says that cats need "4 g of protein of high biologic value per kg body wt/day". That's about 7 calories from protein per pound body weight per day. If a cat isn't a good eater and consumes, say, 20 calories per pound per day, then 7/20 = 35% of calories can safely be from protein. It must be high quality protein, which means meat, and not grain or soy.
Your cat needs protein as it is a carnivore and cutting down on it will lead to other health issues and may cause faster degeneration.
You want to cut down on phosphorous (no fish allowed now)

The best way to do this is with a raw diet which you can make yourself or buy. (Making yourself is better) link provided at the bottom
If you are unwilling to do that then something like the non fish flavors of Wellness or Merrick with NO grains are good alternatives. Wysong is also a good canned choice. This list gives a breakdown. Remember you want low phosphorous
http://www.geocities.com/jmpeerson/CanFoodOld.html

You should be giving sub-Q fluids as needed.


You also will want to look into phosphorous binders. Something like aluminum hydroxide
Ask your vet or look into calcitrol


You may want to talk to the vet about having injectable Pepcid AC on hand or you can buy it in pill form (ac not plain pepcid) and give 1/4 tab for stomach upset which happens a lot in crf cats due to acid in the stomach.
I hope this stuff helps, here are many links for you
Making cat food
http://www.catinfo.org/makingcatfood.htm
other links. Read, read, read!!!!
http://www.felineoutreach.org/Educat...=KidneyDisease
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/kidn..._to_begin.html
http://www.felinecrf.org/
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/F...ec=group&slk=3
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/F...ec=group&slk=5

About that vets diet. This report is for dogs but applies to cats
http://mousabilities.com/nutrition/c...protein_RD.pdf
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Opera/21...
 
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Thanks To everyone for the help.
I joined the Crf Group a few weeks ago.
I gave her chicken K/D today.
 
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