So, who's going to win the election on Nov. 4?

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OK please don't bash me for saying this people but McCain gives me the creeps. He has a weird evil, troll look about him. Yes I know he was tortured as a POW and all that stuff but he just weirds me out. Sorry
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Yes I know who and I'm not saying, but America will be in for disaster like you never saw because of who is in there.
So what you're saying is that you think McCain's going to win?
 

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Originally Posted by mrblanche

...the main change will be one of attitude, rather than substance.
But attitude generates substance -- massively!

Eight years ago, my brother claimed that it didn't really matter who was President, and I said at the very least, it matters because of Supreme Court appointments. My brother insisted that court decisions didn't really affect us in our daily lives.

At that time, I hoped and prayed that he was right and I was wrong -- but eight years later, my brother is just as passionate about this election as I am. I don't know of another time in history when the critical importance of our Presidential choice has been so starkly obvious.
 
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Originally Posted by LaRussa

The man who gets the most votes, that's who will win :-)
You are so right!
 

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Originally Posted by CarolPetunia

Eight years ago, my brother claimed that it didn't really matter who was President, and I said at the very least, it matters because of Supreme Court appointments.
The problem with Supreme Court appointments is that they are unpredictable. Nixon appointed some very liberal justices, and a number of those appointed by Republican Presidents have turned out fairly liberal.
 

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Originally Posted by CarolPetunia

But attitude generates substance -- massively!

Eight years ago, my brother claimed that it didn't really matter who was President, and I said at the very least, it matters because of Supreme Court appointments. My brother insisted that court decisions didn't really affect us in our daily lives.

At that time, I hoped and prayed that he was right and I was wrong -- but eight years later, my brother is just as passionate about this election as I am. I don't know of another time in history when the critical importance of our Presidential choice has been so starkly obvious.
That is the reason there are so many new voters registering for the first time. They have seen what the last 8 years was like and more are determined to get out and vote!
 

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Originally Posted by Duchess15

That is the reason there are so many new voters registering for the first time. They have seen what the last 8 years was like and more are determined to get out and vote!
Oddly enough, that's what a lot of people said in '94, '96, 2000, 2004, and 2006. I guess it depends on what your guy has done for you lately, right?
 

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Originally Posted by mrblanche

Oddly enough, that's what a lot of people said in '94, '96, 2000, 2004, and 2006. I guess it depends on what your guy has done for you lately, right?
Well, on the deadline to sign-up this year, they had 3,000 people register which was the total number they had in the last month and a half. I wasn't aware that they had said that in current years.
 

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I'm voting for McCain, and got my fingers crossed it will be him. I'll be sick if Obama becomes president. I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. (And that's not at all!)

I haven't been paying attention to any of those polls though, since the only one that matters is the outcome of the polls in November.
 

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Well, I'm trying to stay Lounge-worthy here, but surely this much is permissible in the interest of Truth:

If anyone here is under the impression that Barack Obama is an Arab or a Muslim, or that he's "palling around with terrorists" (quoting Sarah Palin), please seek out reputable media sources and investigate those claims. They are absolutely and entirely false.

Even McCain himself has now admitted that Obama is "a decent family man" and "not a person you have to be scared of as President of the United States."

You only have one precious vote. Please... make sure you're basing it on the truth.
 

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I would say me but the humans of this world are not yet ready for my divine Imperial leadership.
 

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oh I hope its Obama. I'm pretty hopeful, but I live in a state that almost always votes for the rep....
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

As Caesar said to his wife when he was confronting Jesus at his trial "what IS truth?"
That would have been Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judea, who reportedly said that, not Tiberius.
 

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In this context, "truth" can be defined as verifiable fact... as opposed to lies, half-truths, misrepresentations, mischaracterizations, disinformation, and spin.
 

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Thanks Essy - you are right. I keep getting them mixed up sometimes. Pilate was the one that said it. Was not thinking clearly.
 

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

Thanks Essy - you are right. I keep getting them mixed up sometimes. Pilate was the one that said it. Was not thinking clearly.
You're welcome. In my World History class we learned a little about the ancient history of the Hebrews. We don't get into a whole lot of religious discussion unless it is brought up but that is why it was still fresh in my mind.

Roman governors had the authority to govern their provinces as they saw fit (for the most part), and that included the administration of punishment. I don't think Tiberius really had anything to do with it. If I remember correctly it wasn't until Nero became emperor that Rome actively and violently persecuted the Christians.

Sorry for the thread hijack. I could talk history day and night.
 

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I'm writing in Dr. John P. "Jack" Ryan.

Or Bill D. Cat and Opus.

Any of these three would be better options than what we have to choose from.
 
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