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post #751 of 907
10/15/08 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
So am I to understand that it is "loony lefties" who are making pornographic moves with Sarah Palin lookalikes in an effort to influence the election? I want to make sure I understand the logic here.
What is actually quite funny about this in a sick twisted way.......

I was at the local watering hole shortly after McCain picked Palin as his running mate. Please note that this watering hole is in a very deep red state and had to be at least 90% republican. A conversation erupted at the bar about how Palin looks like she came right out of a porn movie. Not the star of the movie, but the secretary that gets ushered into the scene. One person brought it up and every last man in that bar agreed with him. It was actually painfully graphic.

So my point here is this. I wouldn't blame this on "lefty loonies". The right obviously has lusty thoughts about her also.

My opinion on the bars reaction? They are all a bunch of pig dogs.

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post #752 of 907
10/15/08 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Sorry, folks, but you were warned more than once that if you didn't stay on topic in the "Thank you, John McCain" thread, it would be "thrown into the MOAT" (Mother Of All (political) Threads).

The threads have now been merged.
@ MOAT!
post #753 of 907
10/15/08 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
@ MOAT!
I was wondering why it took so long to get here.
post #754 of 907
10/15/08 at 5:09pm
after reading several other forums, i think i finally have this Fiq out.
The main reason many women seem to dislike palin is, that she is better looking then they are.
post #755 of 907
10/15/08 at 8:43pm
One thing to remember, unlike William Ayers the unrepentent terrorist, G. Gordon Liddy served his time and paid his debt to society.

And the bloggers mean nothing.

I have read blogs that say, "I have an Alien Baby," I'm sure that will be hitting the mainstream media any time now.
post #756 of 907
10/15/08 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
after reading several other forums, i think i finally have this Fiq out.
The main reason many women seem to dislike palin is, that she is better looking then they are.
Well, that's certainly why I don't like her.


Not a thing to do with teaching creationism in schools, letting her husband run her administration, being incapable to separate public service from self-service (I certainly understand the impulse to get her sister's ex fired, but not the indulgence to do so). Not a thing to do with her inexperience, complete lack of intelligence (unless she's hiding it), or secessionism.
post #757 of 907
10/15/08 at 9:19pm
I didn't know Sarah Palin is a teacher. Learn something new every day.

She isn't for Alaska leaving the union either, but nice try.

I wish Creationism was taught in school also, so no problem there, if that is true.

She is certainly smarter than you or I as she has done pretty good with her life and is governing a state. Not to bad IMO. Approval rating over 80%.
Took on corruption in her own party, that takes guts. I admire guts a lot.

And the "inexperience" factor is a joke considering your candidate has none.

Did you give her an IQ test?
post #758 of 907
10/15/08 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
(I certainly understand the impulse to get her sister's ex fired, .
i still say, they could have fixed that whole thing, by inviting the guy out on moose hunting trip......
post #759 of 907
10/15/08 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I wish Creationism was taught in school also, so no problem there, if that is true.

sorry no different style of thinking is allowed in school these days. Just throw up at test time everything your teacher has said.
post #760 of 907
10/16/08 at 3:30am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post

I wish Creationism was taught in school also, so no problem there, if that is true.
I do too, especially the Iroquois creation, with the world on the back of the giant turtle. I think that one is pretty cool.

Of course, the Norse one with the universe being inside the skull of a slain giant is pretty neat too.
post #761 of 907
10/16/08 at 5:20am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Well, that's certainly why I don't like her.


Not a thing to do with teaching creationism in schools, letting her husband run her administration, being incapable to separate public service from self-service (I certainly understand the impulse to get her sister's ex fired, but not the indulgence to do so). Not a thing to do with her inexperience, complete lack of intelligence (unless she's hiding it), or secessionism.
Someone's been reading those nasty leftist blogs again.
post #762 of 907
10/16/08 at 6:50am
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I do too, especially the Iroquois creation, with the world on the back of the giant turtle. I think that one is pretty cool.

Of course, the Norse one with the universe being inside the skull of a slain giant is pretty neat too.
When I was in high school (back in the dark ages), I actually took a literature class that covered a lot of the religious books from all over the world, including the bible. The class was taught by a woman who was raised in a convent. Guess what she called the class? Mythology.

The argument against teaching creationism is not that it is taught in schools, it is that it is taught as a science. I didn't have a problem with it taught in literature as a comparison to other similar books.
post #763 of 907
10/16/08 at 8:24am
http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html

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October 15
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded
By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
Staff Writer


SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him†when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.
Why does this not surprise me?

The lies are getting so tiresome.
post #764 of 907
10/16/08 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
When I was in high school (back in the dark ages), I actually took a literature class that covered a lot of the religious books from all over the world, including the bible. The class was taught by a woman who was raised in a convent. Guess what she called the class? Mythology.

The argument against teaching creationism is not that it is taught in schools, it is that it is taught as a science. I didn't have a problem with it taught in literature as a comparison to other similar books.

You know, that's a very good point. If she wants creationism taught in schools, then a comparative course in creation mythology would be the way to go about it.
post #765 of 907
10/16/08 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
You know, that's a very good point. If she wants creationism taught in schools, then a comparative course in creation mythology would be the way to go about it.
And btw - she did cover the giant turtle story.
post #766 of 907
10/16/08 at 12:42pm
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You know, that's a very good point. If she wants creationism taught in schools, then a comparative course in creation mythology would be the way to go about it.
Ours actually called it "comparative religion through history"

Laurie
post #767 of 907
10/16/08 at 2:55pm
I found something entertaining which might add spice to the MOAT so I'm tossing it in. I'm assuming anything is on topic here.

The son of William F. Buckley has decided—shock!—to vote for a Democrat.

Christopher Buckley, in an exclusive for The Daily Beast, explains why he left The National Review, the magazine his father founded.

The second link contains one bad word, attributable to William F Buckley Jr.
post #768 of 907
10/16/08 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
I found something entertaining which might add spice to the MOAT so I'm tossing it in. I'm assuming anything is on topic here.

The son of William F. Buckley has decided—shock!—to vote for a Democrat.

Christopher Buckley, in an exclusive for The Daily Beast, explains why he left The National Review, the magazine his father founded.

The second link contains one bad word, attributable to William F Buckley Jr.
I've been following that story. It's very indicative of how "objective" The National Review now is(n't). Still, it's better than some of the other extremely questionable sources I've seen cited here in an effort to convince everybody that Obama is akin to the Anti-Christ, bin Laden, etc.. I guess some people think liberals are extremely gullible.
post #769 of 907
10/16/08 at 4:53pm
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As a Christian, he may well believe it. I don't get the scandal here at all. I mean - this is LOUIS FARRAKHAN you're talking about. !!
I just gotta correct this. I can't sleep thinking that this man's name is used in the same sentence as Christian.

http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9291850

Black Muslim leader. Born Louis Eugene Walcott on May 11, 1933 in the Bronx, New York. He grew up in Roxbury, Massachusetts, and was converted to the Nation of Islam by Malcolm X. Following Malcolm X's defection (1963–4), Farrakhan became the national representative for Elijah Muhammad.

When Elijah Muhammad's son allowed whites to join the movement (after 1975), Farrakhan split away and formed a revitalized movement, Final Call to the Nation of Islam. An eloquent and persuasive speaker, he continued to work for black separatism and black economic power. Although he denied being anti-white or anti-Semitic, he often employed an abrasive rhetoric that alienated such groups, as when he made derogatory statements about Jews during the 1984 presidential primaries on behalf of Reverend Jesse Jackson.
post #770 of 907
10/16/08 at 5:30pm
I stand corrected. It doesn't change my point though. Let me rephrase that:

As a Muslim, he may well believe it. I don't get the scandal here at all. I mean - this is LOUIS FARRAKHAN you're talking about. !!

My point was - it is someone else claiming Obama is the Messiah - it is not Obama claiming he is the Messiah.

I believe we've already established that the candidates cannot be held personally responsible for their supporters' behavior.

Laurie
post #771 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
I just gotta correct this. I can't sleep thinking that this man's name is used in the same sentence as Christian.

http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9291850

Black Muslim leader. Born Louis Eugene Walcott on May 11, 1933 in the Bronx, New York. He grew up in Roxbury, Massachusetts, and was converted to the Nation of Islam by Malcolm X. Following Malcolm X's defection (1963–4), Farrakhan became the national representative for Elijah Muhammad.

When Elijah Muhammad's son allowed whites to join the movement (after 1975), Farrakhan split away and formed a revitalized movement, Final Call to the Nation of Islam. An eloquent and persuasive speaker, he continued to work for black separatism and black economic power. Although he denied being anti-white or anti-Semitic, he often employed an abrasive rhetoric that alienated such groups, as when he made derogatory statements about Jews during the 1984 presidential primaries on behalf of Reverend Jesse Jackson.
Still not quite correct Farrakhan's Nation of Islam aren't true Muslims either. True Muslims consider the Nation of Islam to be totally heretical. The Nation of Islam believes that God lived in New York in human form in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
post #772 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:32pm
Skippy, you are kidding, right? Ali was a member of the Nation of Islam, I don't if he still is but I knew he followed Elijah Mohammad. I can't believe he would believe that.


Barack Obama addressed the issue of him being the Messiah at the Alfred E Smith Charity Dinner tonight in NY. He officially said he was not born in a "manger"

I guess we can put that one to rest now.
post #773 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Skippy, you are kidding, right? Ali was a member of the Nation of Islam, I don't if he still is but I knew he followed Elijah Mohammad. I can't believe he would believe that.


Barack Obama addressed the issue of him being the Messiah at the Alfred E Smith Charity Dinner tonight in NY. He officially said he was not born in a "manger"

I guess we can put that one to rest now.
Not all all. Nation of Islam believes that another Muhammed that lived in New York in the late 1800's and early 1900's was God in human form. He disappeared in the 30's or 40's, and they claim he had "ascended" . I'll find something on it here in a few and post a link.
post #774 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:41pm
Ok, figured out what I was doing wrong. I was looking for William F. Muhammad, but his name was actually Wallace.

Wallace Fard Muhammad and the Nation of Islam

Oh, and it wasn't New York, it was Detroit. My apologies
post #775 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:49pm
I remember that name but didn't know the details. Wild
post #776 of 907
10/16/08 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Barack Obama addressed the issue of him being the Messiah at the Alfred E Smith Charity Dinner tonight in NY. He officially said he was not born in a "manger"
And he also said that the October surprise was that his middle name is actually "Steve".

Actually, I caught both McCain and Obama's speeches at that dinner. They were both absolutely hysterical.

McCain roasting Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82lhqiAF-M

And Obama roasting McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SWQJWm6Tg
post #777 of 907
10/16/08 at 8:02pm
Yes, it was a VERY welcome respite.

Hillary was in hysterics, so was I.
post #778 of 907
10/16/08 at 8:04pm
Momofmany, could you BELIEVE guy who was sitting behind McCain eating and chewing his cud all the while McCain was doing his routine?

I wanted to yell at him.
post #779 of 907
10/16/08 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Momofmany, could you BELIEVE guy who was sitting behind McCain eating and chewing his cud all the while McCain was doing his routine?

I wanted to yell at him.
No kidding. It was totally rude.

I'm going to start a different thread with the links. Not everyone is going to wade into the MOAT to find them.
post #780 of 907
10/16/08 at 8:48pm
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Still not quite correct Farrakhan's Nation of Islam aren't true Muslims either. True Muslims consider the Nation of Islam to be totally heretical. The Nation of Islam believes that God lived in New York in human form in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
OK, I stand corrected again!

Thanks for the link on Wallace Fard Muhammad. Now that you've jogged my memory, I actually did know Farrakhan was Nation of Islam and was converted by Malcom X. I'd forgotten that little bit of history. Did not know about Wallace Fard Muhammad.

Laurie
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