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post #121 of 907
10/7/08 at 9:35pm
You think that's bad, did you hear Palin say "gosh darn" in the VP debate- I thought I was going to rip her head off for that one! OMG!!!!! That's almost as bad as someone saying "soda pop" down here in the South- ahhhh!!! I don't know what that makes me want to be violent, but it does It's just the phrase- it drives me nuts, nothing against her at all as a person, just the phrase!

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post #122 of 907
10/8/08 at 4:54am
It drove me nuts too. Right up there with Palin winking at me.
My mother says it sounds sinister when he says it and very patronizing. Slightly sarcastic.
post #123 of 907
10/8/08 at 5:05am
I had friends playing a drinking game to that.


One had to sleep here.
post #124 of 907
10/8/08 at 5:10am
I think he got it from FDR.
And it was just a speaking "bridge." Instead of saying "ehmmm" or "ahhhh" McCain says "my friends."
post #125 of 907
10/8/08 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
I think he got it from FDR.
And it was just a speaking "bridge." Instead of saying "ehmmm" or "ahhhh" McCain says "my friends."
Well, he needs to knock it off and find something new. FDR was 60 years ago. Not exactly trying to relate to the young folk I guess. Both he and Palin do some strange things when they are communicating.
post #126 of 907
10/8/08 at 5:44am
I'll take McCain's "my friends" over Obama's stuttering and stammerng any day. I had to actually tell him to "spit it out" many times last night. At least "my friends" is coherent.
post #127 of 907
10/8/08 at 6:22am
I've already heard from some very disappointed friends this morning. Nashville is only 54 miles from here, and several of them were going to the debate. But, there was a huge pileup of like 14 or 15 cars on Interstate 65 between here and Nashville. They weren't able to get there, plus weren't able to watch, as they spent the debate time working through traffic and getting home.
post #128 of 907
10/8/08 at 6:38am
I feel McCain and Palin bring out the best in supporters.
I have talked to many people that are so energized to be able to vote for a ticket that has two honest people on it. A ticket that doesn't have to resort to underhanded tactics such as voter fraud and lying to win.
post #129 of 907
10/8/08 at 6:40am
Yeah, I know what you mean, that friendly stuff has got to go, it needs to stop now.
post #130 of 907
10/8/08 at 6:49am
That is so disgusting Neet. What is worse is Obama supporters don't seem to care about free speech anymore.
post #131 of 907
10/8/08 at 6:55am
Voter Fraud in my home town by the illustrious A.C.O.R.N. and ten other states. Imagine that.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/30613864.html

Quote:
Alleging fraud, authorities raid voter group

ACORN's canvassers filled out forms with fake names, addresses, officials say

Nice group this ACORN, the group Obama was an attorney for.
Isn't this a George Soros group?
post #132 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:00am
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
Hey - I just helped to host the Kansas City movie premiere party for the stars in All Roads Lead Home. I guess I'm good pals with all those stars now!!



NOT

Operative words in the above post is: "helped" and "star(s) plural, and one important question,
was it in your own home Momofmany?

Big difference I would say. LOL
post #133 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ CNN on ayers.
and some of the anti american groups the money ment for education went to.
Isn't there a thread elsewhere that this would fit better into?
post #134 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:33am
Palin's husband has clear ties to a fringe party in Alska - he was registered with them (proof positive from their home page)
http://www.akip.org/

This group advocates "Indepdendence" from the US (but let's please not call it secession ) again, I'll cite their very own website:
http://www.akip.org/grege.html

but it's right there on their homepage near the bottom, they want to vote among four options:
Quote:
  1. Remain a Territory
  2. Become a separate and Independent Nation
  3. Accept Commonwealth status
  4. Become a State
Here are a couple of videos of their party members attending a "Secessionist Convention" (oops there goes the secession word).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc

Please note that these videos are linked directly from the Home Page of the AIP - look on the right side where it says "AIP speaks out at Seperatist (sic)convention" they are linked as Part 1 and Part 2.


Governor Palin was not a member, but she obviously has a warm spot in her heart for the Alaska Independence Party. Here is a video of her addressing one of their conventions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

"Mainstream" coverage here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26524024/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us...l?ref=politics

Seems pretty odd to me.
post #135 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:40am
yea, so ? Indepdendence" or "secession" is a state right.
Ask vermont, texas, calf

it does not compare to the hate that comes out of obama and his thugs.
post #136 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:42am
lol of course, there is cheating. should not be shocking to anyone.
post #137 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
That is so disgusting Neet. What is worse is Obama supporters don't seem to care about free speech anymore.
Obama supporters believe in free speech as much as anyone else. The original article has nothing to do with free speech in America anyway and Obama is not the one to deport this guy from KENYA.

I guess some people just don't care if someone is elected or not elected based on lies. That's a way to win isn't it? I guess if it ok to say what you want even if it is an outright lie then it should be ok for people to advertise lies like hey lets let the cigarette companies say that smoking a cigarette a day help prevent breast cancer. Or lets allow any and as much profanity on television as the producers or networks or what ever want. Even if Obama wasn't for free speech just because you are for someone doesn't mean that you are for everything they believe in. You usually just think they are best for the job. Which Obama isn't against free speech anyway every thing that has been presented that was from a valid source about it never lead me to believe that. People just take what they want out of something and make up there own interpretation. Kind of like the Bible. One person can read it and take out of it something totally different either because that the way they do interpret it or that is the way they want to interpret it to make them selves feel better about who they are what they do and what they believe.
post #138 of 907
10/8/08 at 7:53am
I don't understand why you are bringing up those states. There are plenty of nutsos in VT but none of them are having pillow talk with a VP candidate.
post #139 of 907
10/8/08 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Yeah, I know what you mean, that friendly stuff has got to go, it needs to stop now.
Don't take it as an attack on your party, it's just annoying when they say it over and over and over.
post #140 of 907
10/8/08 at 8:11am
The right has found a convenient scapegoat for when they don't want to accept something, they blame someone else.
The Rolling Stone has also been known for doing some good investigative journalism.

A majority of people are not buying the Ayres connection because it is so exaggerated and taken out of context.
McCain was vacationing with Keating directly. They were actual good friends. Meanwhile that man fleeced senior citizens out of all of their savings.
One of the other senators is now coming out and saying that McCain's role was never scrutinized enough because he was the only one really close with Keating. The reason McCain was not censured as strongly was because he was a Representative at the time and not a senator. It wasn't because he was more innocent:
http://www.politickeraz.com/evanbrow...five-fair-game
You will find no such relationship between Obama and Ayres. They didn't vacation together or spend lots of time together. As was pointed out other people sat on that board with Ayres too. Including some Republicans. Should the students who took his classes be suspect too. Or how about the bank teller where he did his banking? Ayres committed his crimes 40 years ago and then turned himself in. It is old news and most of which has been debunked. His detractors hang on it because they have no new ideas for our problems.
post #141 of 907
10/8/08 at 8:14am
Did anyone notice that Mccain was kinda walking funny? HE kinda looked like a robot to me.
post #142 of 907
10/8/08 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by calico2222 View Post
I'll take McCain's "my friends" over Obama's stuttering and stammerng any day. I had to actually tell him to "spit it out" many times last night. At least "my friends" is coherent.
Me too, although both are annoying.
post #143 of 907
10/8/08 at 8:59am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazycatlover View Post
Did anyone notice that Mccain was kinda walking funny? HE kinda looked like a robot to me.
Have you ever watched the news or read a newspaper? He was tortured for 7 years as a POW during the Vietnam War.

on October 26, McCain was making his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his plane was hit by an antiaircraft missile. Forced to eject, breaking both arms and a leg in the process, he landed in a lake near Hanoi and was captured. He spent the next five and a half years as a prisoner of war (POW) at the sarcastically nicknamed "Hanoi Hilton."

Injured and ill, McCain was denied medical assistance until his captors learned that he was an admiral's son, and even then treatment was rudimentary. His father's position also prompted the North Vietnamese to offer him early release in June of 1968. McCain refused, as the U.S. Military Code of Conduct required that prisoners accept release on a first in/first out basis, and there were more than 100 POWs ahead of him. His refusal resulted in a round of torture that included knocking his teeth out, hanging him by his broken arms, and beating him almost around the clock for a week.


http://www.answers.com/topic/john-mccain

I rather doubt anyone expects him to be on stage dancing or in a marathon.
post #144 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:03am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by calico2222 View Post
I'll take McCain's "my friends" over Obama's stuttering and stammerng any day. I had to actually tell him to "spit it out" many times last night. At least "my friends" is coherent.
Much better than uhmmmm... uh. uh uh....

One would think such an educated lecturer would do better at public speaking. One of the biggest no-no's is saying "uh".
post #145 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:07am
Thread Starter 
WOW. Right on their homepage.

Contrary to initial reports, Vice-President candidate Governor Sarah Palin was never a member of our party. We stand corrected. We issued a press release today. It is posted here to those members of the media who did not recieve it.

Todd Palin was registered as a member but never participated in any party activities aside from attending a convention in Wasilla at one time.



AND

The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

So they want to exercise their right to NOT be aborbed into the US as they didn't get a choice in it in 1958? I'd be for that. Who's to stop a Country from just going in and buying another? I hear Iceland is in financial trouble, maybe we should make an offer? Surely the citizens there don't deserve a say-so.
post #146 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:15am
Thread Starter 
How about an explanation as to why even though BHO was a resident of Chicago during MANY years of reporting on Ayers's past he would fail to conclude that this man wasn't all goody-goody.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...U4M2NiZDg0NjQ=

Young, very smart and hyper ambitious politicians like Obama tend to read the local paper (never mind the New York Times, which ran a couple dozen stories mentioning Ayers and his terrorist ties between 1990 and 2004). The political class in Chicago knows who everybody is, where they came from, what they believe. They tend to learn about people who give them jobs, money and political opportunities. And, people like Ayers don't exactly keep their views or radical past a closely guarded secret, particularly when they remain unreprentant.



And anyone who believes Ayers is reformed, I got some prime real estate for you. Cheap.
post #147 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
So they want to exercise their right to NOT be aborbed into the US as they didn't get a choice in it in 1958? I'd be for that. Who's to stop a Country from just going in and buying another? I hear Iceland is in financial trouble, maybe we should make an offer? Surely the citizens there don't deserve a say-so.
That brings up an intriguing point - if Alaska were to withdraw from the US, does that mean that Sarah Palin would no longer be a US citizen?
post #148 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:29am
There's enough wrong with her by herself without even bringing this up, but Sarah Palin is truly a case of the more you know, the less you like.
post #149 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:46am
Thread Starter 
Another bit on Ayers, for those of us who care to listen.

From Innvestor's Business Daily

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...08271974461547

If Ayers was just another nutty professor, we'd be lucky. But he wields great influence in academic circles and has had Obama's ear. He's the author or editor of 15 books. Chicago's current mayor, Richard M. Daley, has employed Ayers as a teacher trainer for Chicago's public schools and consulted him on the city's education-reform plans.

Just last month, Ayers was elected vice-president for curriculum for the 25,000-member American Educational Research Association. AERA is the nation's largest organization of education-school professors and researchers.

In a recent interview on Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," Obama upgraded Ayers' status from "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" to "somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know."



Say hello to your next Secretary of Education, unless you make your vote count and stop the madness.
post #150 of 907
10/8/08 at 9:53am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CC12 View Post
The problem is that they are targeting heavily democratic districts. Therefore trying disenfranchise their votes.
Well, maybe if the cheating would be in primarily Democratic precints they'd not have to bother with this at all.
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