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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
There are many condos that allow small pets and many that don't allow any pet. I would never buy something if I could not keep the pet. That's why I never understood condos (IMO they are glorified/overpriced apartments that you buy).

I would take the contract and have a lawyer go over it. IF the contract doesn't say anything about not having pets, then they can't enforce a "no-pet building" as far as I know. But the lawyer would know for sure.
Well, since all I can afford here in the city is a "glorified overpriced apartment", I have some knowledge in the area. That kind of stipulation is probably not in the contract. It's in the rules and bylaws of the condominium association.
post #32 of 44
Even if its not in the contract, if its in the rules/bylaws of the condo association, I think you still need to abide by those rules. When we had our house in Maryland, we had to go by association rules (certain type of fencing, no antennas on the roof (for tv), had to have approval from the association if you changed the shingles or siding on the houses, etc.

Both are enforced in court. That's why the OP needs to have a lawyer go over exactly what she signed now. It will be very costly for her in the future if she doesn't!
post #33 of 44
Before we bought our House we were looking at Condos also.
You always have to check the bylaws.
Our Real Estate Agent we fired lied to us about condos.
She said they would take 4 cats and they would only take two.
Some here do not take pets either.
post #34 of 44
My vet told me that the place they lived in while finishing school only allowed one cat, so she adopted cats that all looked alike. That way the only way anybody would know was if more than one was up in the window at the same time. Other than that, when they came for inspections she would just say "hold on a minute" and run the vacuum. All the cats would hide under the bed, and the landlord just assumed she was a neat freak.


At any rate, I would suggest reading your paperwork VERY carefully. If there is nothing in writing, they don't have a leg to stand on. If there is, you need to investigate your options, and unfortunately, a lawyer will be your best bet for assistance.
post #35 of 44
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Well, What's done is done, i cant change anything happend before. I didnt really pay attention to this no-pet rule when i signed the purchase agreement, no one told me about this, i didnt think it could be such a big deal. i still cant believe indoor cats are not allowed here....actually no livestocks ever are allowed in this building..
since this already happend, i have to solve this problem. i really want to keep the cat and live in this nice condo at the same time. I will give them a letter indicate that I have removed my pet permenantly from my unit on monday. but i think i will keep my cats secretly, the chances they catch them are not big i think, they always stay indoor, and never make any noise, if the mantainance guy come over, i will lock them in my laudry room which is pretty spacious for that day. I will put them in a big purse when i take them to the vet. i don think there are other ways for them to find out I still have the cats,
what do you think? I want to take a chance see if this will work out, for the worst case, if they find out the cats are still here later on, i will worry about it then.
post #36 of 44
You might have missed my post (look back, I posted a website)....... but I am pretty sure in Ontario it is your right to own a pet, there are laws. Buildings say no pets, but they can't enforce it.. atleast if you're renting.
post #37 of 44
I have always lived in places that said 1-2 cats...At one point, I had 7 cats and 2 dogs, my neighbor downstaris had 5 cats, and we fostered cats in our basement. (Landlord did know about that and was ok with it) Plus, we had a "hallway" cat. . LOL Mine were always in the windows. No one paid enough attention to notice they changed. Not telling you this is the right thing, just sharing.
post #38 of 44
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Originally Posted by lmunsie View Post
You might have missed my post (look back, I posted a website)....... but I am pretty sure in Ontario it is your right to own a pet, there are laws. Buildings say no pets, but they can't enforce it.. atleast if you're renting.

Hi thanx for the post, I bought the condo,not leasing, and i checked the link you provided, they said you dont have to get rid of the pet unless the boards told you to,
In the letter they gave me it did mention the board of directors require me to remove the pet.......
so I think this might not be the case you are talking about. but i really hope i am wrong.
post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by emilyasweetie View Post
Well, What's done is done, i cant change anything happend before. I didnt really pay attention to this no-pet rule when i signed the purchase agreement, no one told me about this, i didnt think it could be such a big deal.
You need to read through everything when you buy something as important as a condo. This is why at my shelter we ask for landlords permission, or if they're a condo owner, proof that they can have a cat.

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but i think i will keep my cats secretly, the chances they catch them are not big i think, they always stay indoor, and never make any noise, if the mantainance guy come over, i will lock them in my laudry room which is pretty spacious for that day. I will put them in a big purse when i take them to the vet. i don think there are other ways for them to find out I still have the cats,
what do you think? I want to take a chance see if this will work out, for the worst case, if they find out the cats are still here later on, i will worry about it then.
I think your cats will sit in the window, and you won't be able to hide them for that reason. I think you need to go before the board, tell them you didn't realise that pets were not permitted, they don't go outside, and that the cats are your family, and you will not just dump them. You need to find out why cats are not allowed, and maybe take proof of vaccinations and spay/neuter, maybe a letter from a previous landlord saying the cats caused no problems.

Your best is to be up front about it. They have made it clear already they don't want pets, and I really don't think trying to hide them will do you any favours.

I don't know what they can do, it's a stupid rule, but I daresay they have some sort of recourse.
post #40 of 44
Here's the deal - this condo purchase was probably the single largest purchase you've made in your life, as a home purchase is for most of us, and it's extremly important you read all the papers - and even more important, have an attorney read all the papers. Did you have a real estate attorney when you purchased? Can you get one now?

Yes, bad things can happen if you just blow things off. If they start fining you, and you don't pay up, yes they can probably put a lien against your unit and eventually evict you. They can sue you if you willfully disobey the rules you, by purchasing, agreed to.

Really, it'll be worth a few hundred dollars to have an attorney specifically tell you what your rights, and your obligations, are, and then request a meeting with the board. I'm assuming there are meetings on a monthly or so basis - it's your right as an owner to attend them and make your case. But, really, you have to know what you signed.

Or, you can start meeting your new neighbors in the association, and seeing if they'd like to modify the bylaws and rules & regs to allow pets. It might be an uphill battle, but the documents are not set in cement - they can be changed if it's the will of a given percentage of the owners (check your bylaws). But, there could be a really good reason your association doesn't allow pets and that other owners abide by the rules.

Also, the management company normally doesn't just make up rules - they're following your association's specific rules & regs, and the guidance of the board of managers - a group of your fellow owners. Hey, this may be a good time for you to think about running for the board yourself next election, and seeing how you might be able to start a few changes.

Good luck - it's a hard situation you find yourself in, but I really think you can't just act as though it doesn't exist - both for yourself and your kitties. You have to find out your legal rights in your association, and no one here can tell you what they are.
post #41 of 44
Oh my goodness I didn't know there were that many rules with condos!!! Why on earth would you buy a condo, that YOU own, and still let other people boss you around and come into YOUR condo whenever they please! Condos don't seem any different than apartments!

Good luck, but I'm afraid you will never be able to have your cats there. It's a rule of their's and reguardless of them seeing you take the cats in, the cats would have been spotted in the windows eventually.
post #42 of 44
Is there any clause in your contract that allows you to opt out if you change your mind within a certain length of time? It might be too late for that, but it doesn't hurt to check. I know with mortgages it's usually only 72 hours.

One more thing you need to take into consideration if you're trying to hide the cats instead of going through proper channels. In addition to the legal ramifications, fines, possible eviction, etc., you could possibly lose your cats anyway. If you have neighbors or board members who are dead set on enforcing the "no pet" policy, someone might call animal control to come and remove your pets from your home. I don't know if that's legal, but it could cost you a lot more--in money and emotional trauma-- than you're prepared to pay.

This is a case where it's better to follow the rules from the beginning.

I know you've invested a lot of money in this condo, a good deal of it nonrefundable. Still, you might want to look into selling it and renting another place until you can afford the downpayment on a pet-friendly house or condo.
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by EnzoLeya View Post
Oh my goodness I didn't know there were that many rules with condos!!! Why on earth would you buy a condo, that YOU own, and still let other people boss you around and come into YOUR condo whenever they please! Condos don't seem any different than apartments!
Which is one of the reasons I'd never ever buy a condominium. Also living in one is no different than living in an apartment building in my opinion. You still have to contend with noisey neighbours on the other side of your walls, and not all condo owners live in their condos, many rent them out, which makes it worse yet because people who rent often don't have any regard for their neighbours.
post #44 of 44
Depending on your stage of life, career needs, or local real estate market, a condo may be a good purchase. For those who travel, for those who don't want, or aren't up to, a lot of outside maintenance, for those downsizing, for those who want to live in city center, and depending on how much single family homes are in the area, condos may be a viable, or even preferable, alternative. Not all associations allow rentals. And, a lot of people do like homeowner associations for single family subdivisions as well.

The key is always to read up on what you're thinking about buying - check your city codes and local laws, check any association rules & regs, and, IMO, always have an attorney to explain what you may not be familiar with.

In Illinois, before the sale goes through, you have an opportunity, usually within 3 days of your initial offer, to go through your rules & regs, as well as have an inspection...assuming your offer was written correctly, you can withdraw your offer without penalty. But, again, the important thing is to know what you are doing before you jump in. I'm sure not one homeowner hasn't realized they neglected to check something before that first purchase, but sometimes the consequences can be tough to live with.
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