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We go on and on about ourselves. I am curious to know what the lay of the Canadian land is politically right now. What seems to be happening? Has it gotten downright silly yet or are our northern neighbors behaving themselves?
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I was thinking they were about to have an election.

Canadian Rivals square off over economy

Apparently they're having health care problems:

http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/desperatel...ngdoctors.html
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We go on and on about ourselves. I am curious to know what the lay of the Canadian land is politically right now. What seems to be happening? Has it gotten downright silly yet or are our northern neighbors behaving themselves?

Five weeks ago the Prime Minister approached our Govenor General and asked her to dissolve Parliment due to non confidence issues. We currently have a minority government and the Prime Minister feels that he can't do his job so long as he is constantly being second guessed by the opposition. So he's taking his chances in an election hoping for a majority government.

Personally I think the US could take a lesson from Canada. The US elections are a year long and end up turning into a circus side show, with this latest one being the absolute worst one that I've even seen. IMHO there is absolutely no need to run an election for a year. Up to 3 months is more than enough time. Five weeks? Well that's pushing it

The other day I got a survey call. If I have the time I don't mind taking them, but I always ask how many questions and how long it will take now because sometimes they can be 30 minutes or more long.

Anyway, it started off with whether or not I though Canada was moving in the right direction. Then she started to ask more pointed question, which I really couldn't answer because I haven't been really paying attention to the election. IMHO they all make promises to get into the job, not knowing exactly how easy or difficult or even impossible it is to achieve their "promise", and then once in they conveniently forget or side step what they were campaigning about. Besides, most people pick a party and stick with it, good or bad, and vote for that party in each election throughout their entire lives.

I finally came to see that the survey was being conducted by one of the political parties, but I don't know which one. We got to a question where "unsure" wasn't an option. You had to pick a political party. I finally told her that I can't pick a party without lying because I haven't listened to any of their campaign promises. She kept insisting. Finally I told her that I don't think I'm a good candidate for the survey because I'm not "politically inclined", at which point she thanked me for my time and hung up.
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Apparently they're having health care problems:

http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/desperatel...ngdoctors.html
We've been having health care issues/problems for decades. However, in the last decade it's gotten much worse. It's nearly impossible to find a family doctor these days and many people don't even have one. I have one but he's a complete idiot and should have his license revoked, but I can't find a new doctor!

Part of the problem is that Canada won't recognize the education from other countries except for a few select countries. Which means that if a doctor comes here from a country that is not recognized by the Canadian Medical Association, the person literally has to repeat their education. They can't simply take an exam, or even a competency course of some kind, they have to take the entire medical program again.

Now I understand that education is not the same everywhere, but really, the human body works the same no matter where you live and the fixes for conditions are pretty much the same. Yes, there could be a difference in technology, but that is easy to get up to speed with through seminars.

I've met cardiac an neurosurgeons working as taxi cab drivers or waiters. I went to school with a cardiac doctor from Somalia who couldn't work in her field here so she went into nursing instead. I worked with another doctor who was working as a health care aide because he wasn't qualified to work here either.
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Personally I think the US could take a lesson from Canada. The US elections are a year long and end up turning into a circus side show, with this latest one being the absolute worst one that I've even seen. IMHO there is absolutely no need to run an election for a year. Up to 3 months is more than enough time. Five weeks? Well that's pushing it
ONE year? It lasts four years. I guarantee you that the day after the election in November, we will see the next crop starting to maneuver for position for the next election! In fact, I dare say the convention is where the next crop make themselves known; Obama spoke at the 2004 conventions, and Bill Clinton spoke at the 1988 convention.
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Part of the problem is that Canada won't recognize the education from other countries except for a few select countries. Which means that if a doctor comes here from a country that is not recognized by the Canadian Medical Association, the person literally has to repeat their education. They can't simply take an exam, or even a competency course of some kind, they have to take the entire medical program again.
Why is there a shortage of Canadian educated physicians??
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Why is there a shortage of Canadian educated physicians??
Because doctors find that they can often make more money elsewhere and we lose a good number to the US where they are paid fee for service instead of flat rates. We have a universal health care system up here that is government regulated.

Here an attending doctor in the ER will make between $30,000 (about $240 per hour) and $33,000 per month. A family doctor gets paid something like $35.00 for a patient's visit, regardless of whether that visit is 1 minute long or 1 hour long.

In the US hospitals and doctors pretty much set their own fees, which gives the doctor the ability to make hundreds of thousands of dollars more per year than they can here. But at the same time it affects the average person who has to pay thousands of dollars per year to access the health care system, and if they don't pay, they can't get health care.
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Also (at least in Ontario) the system is set up to limit how many doctors graduate each year. They only train a set number each year, regardless of need, so as the population has increased there hasn't been an increase in doctors allowed to train, and the gap widens every year.
It's absolutely ridiculous how Canada doesn't recognize the professional qualifications of so many other countries. There has got to be a better way of testing people here so they can join the Canadian workforce in their chosen careers rather than facing all these hurdles.
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Here an attending doctor in the ER will make between $30,000 (about $240 per hour) and $33,000 per month. A family doctor gets paid something like $35.00 for a patient's visit, regardless of whether that visit is 1 minute long or 1 hour long.
If the huge discrepancy in pay between family docs and other specialties is creating a shortage of family docs, why don't the raise the fees of family docs??? Supply and demand, you know. It sounds like a problem with an obvious and unavoidable solution.

BTW: It isn't necessay to "explain" the US health care system to me. I live here. I'm quite aware of how it works.
post #10 of 23
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If the huge discrepancy in pay between family docs and other specialties is creating a shortage of family docs, why don't the raise the fees of family docs??? Supply and demand, you know. It sounds like a problem with an obvious and unavoidable solution.

BTW: It isn't necessay to "explain" the US health care system to me. I live here. I'm quite aware of how it works.
Tax dollars only go so far.

We are actually moving to a 2-tier medical system. There are private clinics opening up that require the person to pay up front, and it's not covered under our health care system. Some people opt to do that instead of waiting their turn for tests and/or procedures.

A 2-tier system is actually the ideal health care system because it allows everyone access to health care, even if you don't have the ability to pay.
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Tax dollars only go so far.

We are actually moving to a 2-tier medical system. There are private clinics opening up that require the person to pay up front, and it's not covered under our health care system. Some people opt to do that instead of waiting their turn for tests and/or procedures.

A 2-tier system is actually the ideal health care system because it allows everyone access to health care, even if you don't have the ability to pay.
I have always thought the British system was a better model than either France or Canada.
post #12 of 23
What's happening in Canadian politics right now? Compared to the US I would say not much.
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
What's happening in Canadian politics right now? Compared to the US I would say not much.

True! For a while it was lies, sex, scandals and deceit.

http://www.economist.com/world/ameri...ry_id=11586048
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I'm leaning more and more toward Jack Layton.
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I have always thought the British system was a better model than either France or Canada.
Having spent time in all three, they all have their flaws.

As for the election, I just wish they would all get back to work so my life would be normal!

Harper not attending functions for fear of his life is plain stupid when he is still going out to gala dinners. Since he was the one who wanted to call the election, they have been very quiet in his campaign compared to previous elections. Maybe they are actually acting on the mistakes Tory made here and not messing it up for themselves. However I know two of our local candidates and am surprised neither of them have been door to door yet as I do have questions on their policies. I have never liked Dion and as much as he goes against my political beliefs, I must say that Layton is not doing too badly.

I have been turned off the election this year after being harassed on the GO Train by supporters of a local candidate (not the candidates themselves who I would happily speak to). I don't mind them coming to my door etc as you can ask them to leave but when they are on the train daily it wears thin quickly.
post #16 of 23
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You guys do have a racy past I read somewhere about the someone's wife running off with Mick Jagger.
I am not surprised about the steamy happenings in Quebec.
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You guys do have a racy past I read somewhere about the someone's wife running off with Mick Jagger.
I am not surprised about the steamy happenings in Quebec.
Ahhh yes! The wife of our greatest Prime Minister ever, Pierre Trudeau. His wife Margaret (Maggie) did run off with Mick Jagger
post #18 of 23
I have a Sirius radio, so I try to catch "As It Happens" from the CBC whenever possible. I haven't caught it a lot lately; I need to figure out when it's replayed later in the night.
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I have a Sirius radio, so I try to catch "As It Happens" from the CBC whenever possible. I haven't caught it a lot lately; I need to figure out when it's replayed later in the night.
Don't know if it's useful to you, but you can also listen online at http://www.cbc.ca/listen/# .
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Ahhh yes! The wife of our greatest Prime Minister ever, Pierre Trudeau. His wife Margaret (Maggie) did run off with Mick Jagger
My memory is bad I admit, but were she and Pierre still a "couple" when she went to the Stones concert in Toronto and became enamored with Mick? Although what anyone finds attractive about him is beyond me.

But then it can work 2 says - think of all the sympathy votes Pierre could have gotten from that escapade.
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My memory is bad I admit, but were she and Pierre still a "couple" when she went to the Stones concert in Toronto and became enamored with Mick? Although what anyone finds attractive about him is beyond me.

But then it can work 2 says - think of all the sympathy votes Pierre could have gotten from that escapade.
While she was married she had an affair with Ted Kennedy. The day she went to see the Stones, is the day she claims that she left Pierre for a "temporary" separation.

I believe she later flew to New York to meet up with them again.

Both Mick Jagger and Ronnie Woods from the Stones have published in books that they each did have a romantic fling with Maggie, but she denies it in her book.

She was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder in 2000, and has apparently been bipolar all of her adult life, including the time she was married to Pierre, so that would account for her actions, at least in part. People in their manic phases will do pretty much anything because their inhibition is impaired.

At any rate, she was a wild one!
post #22 of 23
She was pretty young when Pierre married her and there was a big difference in their ages. I think part of the problem was that she was just too young and naive to be able to cope with being Canada's "first lady".
post #23 of 23
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I have to admit I have a soft spot for Canada. I absolutely love it there. If I were ever leave the states that is one place I would consider.

I found Ontario to be a little stiff though I loved the villages, lake area and the sheer beauty. Montreal is sexy and fun. It feels like Europe. Winnipeg was cute. I was not crazy about Calgary. They had some drug issues and too many homeless people. I did like Edmonton and I fell in love with BC. Very nice people and it was a refreshing place to be. I had never met so many nice people in my life. I ate my way across Canada. The game meat in Alberta was out of this world. The Winnipeg zoo was fun for my daughter.

But your PM seems erm uh odd.
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