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Helix and the stork....

post #1 of 13
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So my neighbor decided instead of keeping his newly appointed cat (passed on from another neighbor) inside where she couldn't get knocked up, to throw rocks at the stray, the only active male around the building. So I told my hubby I was going to take him in for a little while.

Now this big fluffy tomcat had, had his share of kittens, and I figured it was time to get him neutered and cleaned up. First order of business was getting him inside, piece of cake really, a few 'here kitty kitty's and I had him in a large dog kenel in my bedroom. Then I gave him a bath, and he was amazingly compliant. I put him in a harness and attached the harness to the tap. I have a detachable shower head.

And eventually I got him fixed and released him again. Not much else I could have done seeing as I already had 7 cats of my own to take care of. But little did I know that he would go out with a bang. During his stay one of my females was in heat. Now all my boys have been trimmed and tucked so they are all bang and no buck . But no, I left him in the room for two seconds unsupervised thinking Lucipher, her usually crabby self would want nothing to do with him.

and then these little ones happened.


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v215/bleeding_desires/Cat%20forums%20exclusive/?action=view&current=luciandbabes21-1.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dbabes24-1.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes29.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes03.jpg

just a heads up, this one is a little graphic! pretty good shot though
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes04.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes05.jpg

again, a wee bit graphic.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes10.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes14.jpg

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes18.jpg

this one is my favorite, a little girl i've names Lotus
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...andbabes24.jpg

technically this is her third litter, her first was a still born though, and there was only one kitten. But consistently, for all three she has had a tuxedo for her first, that always comes out breach. With her second litter I helped her out a lot because I was afraid the reason her first little one didn't make it was because it was breach.

Anyone have any clue as to why she tends to 'scream' when giving birth, it also happens when she is 'penetrated'? Just curious.
post #2 of 13
I'm not sure. A quick question, though...is she medically not able to be spayed? It seems like you're a pro-spay/neuter person, so I'm just curious why she's not fixed yet. The kits are all very cute though. Lotus sure is a sweetheart, and what a pretty name!
post #3 of 13
Males can take up to 2 months before they are clean. A newly neutered male can get an unspayed cat pregnant (as you found out). I do question as to why your female is not spayed yet. I hope she will be going in after these kittens.

Thanks for at least getting the tom neutered so he can reproduce any more.

Cats will "scream" because the male's penis has tiny barbs on it. Goes in smooth, but coming out will scrape her and cause the reaction. Its to stimulate her to ovalate the eggs. The only time a female will scream when giving birth is when its too "dry" or the kitten is stuck. My one queen had the sac break before delivery and the kitten was born dry and she had a little problem pushing him out. Was the only time she "screamed" in pain and bit me when I tried to help.
post #4 of 13
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she screams the moment of intercourse, she sounds like shes really mad, it's kinda funny sometimes.

As for her not being spayed, I've seen a lot of females get heavy after being spayed, that was my main reason. And seeing as I have the boys in the house all done there was no need, seeing as everyone is an inside cat

and there is noway she can get out, nor does she have the desire. My boy Buddah went missing for 9 days after i started letting them out. this was last year about this time when i was living with my parents (on their property) and so, ever since my boyfriend and I are very cautious about the windows and doors in our house.
post #5 of 13
Helix's legacy lives!, despite his new lack of... ahem... manhood. Poor girl! How did she get pregnant the first two times?
post #6 of 13
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first time Lucipher got pregnant, I wanted kittens. But it was her sister who had a successful litter of three. And then when we moved to the apartment we are currently in last October, I tried everything to keep them apart (the girls and boys) but i felt so bad locking her up in a cage, or locking up the boys in a cage. we didn't have a whole lot of income at the time, not for lack of trying, and i didn't manage to get the boys neutered until after the third second litter.
post #7 of 13
Oh I see! Now your signature makes more sense ;-)
Unfortunately, spays are no where nearly as cheap as neuters, but she might benefit after this litter. Who knows when another 'Helix' will need your help!

By the way, did you name him after the two cat cartoon characters, Heathcliff and Felix? :P
post #8 of 13
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As for her not being spayed, I've seen a lot of females get heavy after being spayed, that was my main reason.
Lets see...having your cat get heavy vs having unwanted kittens or breast/uterine cancer or infections? Personally, I'll have a heavy cat. There are more reasons to get her spayed than not. In MY opinion. I second having her spayed after the kittens are weaned or as soon as you can afford it.
post #9 of 13
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well, the word was that his name was already Felix, but I had misunderstood the friend that told me and had been calling him Helix (after the band). So after I learned his name was Felix.. I decided I liked Helix better... ever at the vet office though... they called his Felix...<.< they weren't listening very well.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Thehouseofgods View Post

As for her not being spayed, I've seen a lot of females get heavy after being spayed, that was my main reason. And seeing as I have the boys in the house all done there was no need, seeing as everyone is an inside cat
Please, please do your research about cats not being spayed. Unspayed female cats are more susceptible to get ovarian and uterine infections, as well as Cancer.

Pyometra is a nasty disease a very painful disease, that unspayed female is likely to get from going into heat over and over agin. Please research this disease it is very bad and preventable through spaying.

Spaying female can prevent mammary gland tumors, which spreads to the lungs and bones.

Its not just about having kittens or a cat gaining weight, it so much more serious than that.
post #11 of 13
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Males can take up to 2 months before they are clean. A newly neutered male can get an unspayed cat pregnant (as you found out).
See, I have read that all over this site... but when I mentioned that to the vet tech she looked at me like I was NUTS, then went and asked one of the three vets (now that I think about it, I would have asked the other 2 vets myself if I had thought of it) and HE had never, ever heard of that. They both asked me where I heard THAT, lol, and opposed to saying "Oh, on the internet (lol)" I just said "I've heard it from several people, none with DMV degrees though."

I dunno if it IS or ISN'T true, but it doesn't hurt to keep a freshly neutered male away from unaltered females.



Cute kittens, but I have to agree, your girls should be spayed when you have the $$$.
post #12 of 13
Like the others have said, she should be spayed right away. Their was a cat that came into the vets one day. And her Uterus was extremely infected from not being spayed and having two litters about 3 years ago. She was their two days, and passed away the night she got spayed. I'm not trying to scare you, but you should get her spayed as soon as the kittens are weened and you have the money for it. For her health.

There are ways to get an over weight cat back down, make her exercise, weight control foods, est. But you can't always be that lucky with a cat with Pyometra. Or dog for that matter.

Also, the kittens are SO cute! I could just take them all home LOL.
post #13 of 13
Very cute kittens

Be sure to spay your girly as soon as the kittens are around 8 weeks. I'd make the appointment now

Zelda had kittens just before she turned a year. I had planned to get her spayed and then dropped the ball not thinking it was a big deal because she was indoors. Well - she went into heat and as soon as my door opened to the outside world Zelda darted for it and bam - came home pregnant! ( my mistake )

I allowed her to have her kittens. I kept one of them and found the other 4 boys loving homes with the promise ( call to vet and appointment set before taking home ) to get them neutered!
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