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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...E%7D&dist=hppr


And if I may be so bold to ask, why is it that Congress is not releasing the details of any resolution to us, the American people, who are expected to pay for it before they give our money away.

Personally, I don't want a dime of my tax dollars going to Obama's phony ACORN agenda. This is disgusting.

Yeah right, let's make a resolution and fill it full of pork and not tell the public, they will suck it up.

I am glad McCain went to DC, he did do the right thing. This is turning into a scandal of gigantic porportions. I feel sick. Get ready, it is going to crash come Monday, Congress will pass no resolution.

Here is a blast from the past.
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/...-congress.html

From October 23, 1999

I can't take this anymore tonight, I'm going to bed.
post #92 of 100
Now now, Cindy, didn't you watch the parade of Democratic leaders and strategists last night? McCain's the one upset the cart, things were rolling along fine til he showed up.



Talk about not playing well with others.
post #93 of 100
well i hope someone comes long and stop the FAT from getting into the program. Gee, what do school loans, car loans, etc have to do with it.
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well i hope someone comes long and stop the FAT from getting into the program. Gee, what do school loans, car loans, etc have to do with it.
FAT CHANCE.


I am still waiting to see what this all means to everyday people.
post #95 of 100
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Wow. If that post didn't just prove my thoughts correct that I stated in the last paragraph of my post. It's so polarized that it doesn't matter what is actually said, it comes back to the same talking points of the party no matter what. Even what was at one time a fairly safe haven to be able to actually debate policy is so full of vitriol that it's no longer even palatable.

No where in that post did I mention VP choices. No where did I mention patriotism. But somehow that's what words were put in my mouth, or fingers as the case may be. Somehow it comes back to the same counter-arguments used from 2002 forward.

I realize that Obama supporters won't see it this way, but I think that McCain used a poor choice of words. (Obama did that too with his "lipstick on a pig" thing, or that's what was argued anyway.) I do believe that is what he meant to say, it just didn't come out right. But I guess that's just my little opinion. Doesn't matter in the slightest.
But why does it matter to you? You've made it very clear who you're voting for no matter what McCain says in the debate. Besides, the topic of this debate is "Foreign Policy", the economy is covered later. That's the topic that Obama has been preparing for, for the past 4-5 days, so I'm sure that's what he wants to talk about. I'm not picking on you in particular...I know who I'm voting for and it doesn't matter to me how pretty of a speech Obama gives at these debates. So whether or not they hold them is irrelevant to me.


I don't think my post stands out as particularly partisan. You singled me out with your question so I answered but most of my post was not directed toward you. I felt since you directed the first part of your post to me that I needed to clarify what I felt. Nothing more than that.
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And perhaps y'all don't think that the basis of our economy is sound, but I happen to agree with McCain. I do think that our economy is fundamentally sound. Yes, we are in a crisis right now. Yes there were some major mistakes made on the part of both parties through at least 5 administrations going back to and including the Carter administration. But the basis of our economy, the fundamental backbone of our economy being capitalism based on the work ethic and ingenuity of Americans, IS strong. No matter what happens with this crisis, we will recover and we will build a stronger economy out of it, just like we have with all of the economic crises of the past. If you don't believe that we can recover, then you can make fun of McCain for saying that our fundamental economy is strong. And you are more than welcome to find a better economy elsewhere in the world too.
I am not as optimistic as you. And if that last sentence was a veiled "if you don't like it then leave," then I can't say I care for that.

Both my husband and I have our own small businesses in the manufacturing sector and from what I see, things are changing and not for the better of the US. More and more goods are being produced in China - raw materials, parts, assemblies and that means jobs being lost forever. The way things typically work is that of someone has a new design, they will make prototypes and short runs on a small scale to make sure it is feasible, but as soon as it takes off and they need quantity, off to China it goes. Large companies set up their own factories. Small companies (< 20 people) go through brokers to outsource to China in order to save cost and be competitive. Today we laugh at the poor quality but given them 10 years and they will have figured out how to produce quality goods, the same way that the Japanese did.

As a country we have to get off our high horse and stop thinking we have some kind of inherent advantage over other countries. Our schools have been dumbed down to the point where many small companies who want to hire workers can't. The kids don't have simple skills like being able to handle fractions and simple arithmetic that they need to work on machinery. When the current workforce that is 50+ retires they are going to be in trouble. At the same time the Far East has been aggressively pursuing improvements in their educational system. This kind of thing scares me long term:
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The scores from the 2006 Program for International Student Assessment showed that U.S. 15-year-olds trailed their peers from many industrialized countries. The average science score of U.S. students lagged behind those in 16 of 30 countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that represents the world's richest countries. The U.S. students were further behind in math, trailing counterparts in 23 countries.

"How are our children going to be able to compete with the children of the world? The answer is not well," said former Colorado governor Roy Romer, chairman of Strong American Schools, a nonpartisan group seeking to make education prominent in the 2008 presidential election.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120400730.html

If this keeps up we are going to be a nation of citizens who sue each other and sell each other insurance because those will be the only jobs left. My belief is that the fundamentals of the economy rest in part on a solid educational system. And the current state of our educational system troubles me very deeply.
post #97 of 100
Well, just a quick FYI. Wall Street isn't happy about WaMu's demise. Turns out JP Morgan is buying most of the assets and liabilities of the bank (paying $1.9 billion for $307 billion in assets, and will have to write off $31 billion in bad loans) but none of the bank's holding company. Depositors are protected. Bondholders and stockholders are going to take the pain.

Laurie
post #98 of 100
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Well, just a quick FYI. Wall Street isn't happy about WaMu's demise. Turns out JP Morgan is buying most of the assets and liabilities of the bank (paying $1.9 billion for $307 billion in assets, and will have to write off $31 billion in bad loans) but none of the bank's holding company. Depositors are protected. Bondholders and stockholders are going to take the pain.

Laurie
Thank you for making all of this clearer. I am a little overwhelmed by the daily deluge of news. It is leaving me gobsmacked.

2dogmom-could not agree with you more. I push math and science on my daughter. Her school is math based and she is already learning fractions. I have looked at the lay of the land and I want her to be able to compete in 20 years.
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gobsmacked.

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That's such a wonderful word!!!!!!
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That's such a wonderful word!!!!!!
Thanks. I like it too. Kind of fits the situation.
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