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post #1 of 26
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ew-york-times/

I realize that anything goes in this political arena, and especially this election season, but I guess basic taste has been thrown out like the baby with the bath water. Is Hollywood really this desperate to get Obama elected? Wait, don't answer that. I already know the answer...
post #2 of 26
Disgusting. The Fey/Poehler skit was funny, but this is just trash.
And it is even more tasteless than John McCain's joke about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because Janet Reno is her "father."
post #3 of 26
Just to be clear on that McCain joke, by the way, I have no doubt that he said it, but there is no recording of it anywhere. However, it was so widely reported, with the same words, that either everyone got it wrong from the same source, or they all got it right, which is the likeliest explanation.

And McCain apologized to Bill Clinton for it in person.
post #4 of 26
You're right! It looks as though they've managed to reach a new high; in low!
post #5 of 26
That's way too below-the-belt. I can understand them lampooning the NYT, but not in that manner. It's too tasteless to even describe.
post #6 of 26
This country is going downhill fast and we have no one to blame for it but ourselves. No morals, no ethics, no care for our fellow man, just a bunch of spoiled rotten, whiners, yes, whiners.

Yep, just like the Roman Empire, the Decline and Fall of the American Empire.
post #7 of 26
lol..Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Last time I checked SNL has never been polictically correct and racey, and if this is what people want to nit pick about. Find an issue that actually has to do with something.

Who cares.
post #8 of 26
I guess I'm just not an "anything goes" kinda girl. I just believe there are lines that shouldn't be crossed.

I look at this kind of stuff as the product of people with little or no breeding and parents that did not raise their children.
post #9 of 26
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lol..Some people have way too much time on their hands.

Last time I checked SNL has never been polictically correct and racey, and if this is what people want to nit pick about. Find an issue that actually has to do with something.

Who cares.
There's a point where being racy and on the wrong side of PC is funny, and then there's a point that crosses the line of decency. Saying flat out that someone in the public eye is having an incestuous relationship with their daughters is wrong, and I don't care who said it or who it's against. They missed their mark if they were trying to lampoon the New York Times or Sarah Palin, and instead just insulted Todd Palin and his daughters.

Maybe SNL should find an issue that "actually has to do with something". This isn't "nitpicking" it's a flat out disgusting and FALSE accusation that is insulting to Gov. Palin's FAMILY. Barack Obama has enough class to leave family out of it. Apparently his supporters in Hollywood lack that class.
post #10 of 26
Now I remember why I haven't watched SNL for the longest time. Good satire gives a fresh view or amplifies the folly of the target. This is adolescent and stupid. I don't know what they planned to accomplish. I'm not even sure it was to convince anyone to vote for Obama. Just someone with his mind in the gutter. A Beavis and Butthead maneuver.
post #11 of 26
That kind of twisted humor is just tasteless and trashy imo. Very out of line.
post #12 of 26
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Maybe SNL should find an issue that "actually has to do with something". This isn't "nitpicking" it's a flat out disgusting and FALSE accusation that is insulting to Gov. Palin's FAMILY.

They don't have to. It's stupid satire show that comes on at 11:35pm on Saturday nights. And yes it is nit picking I have been watching the show for years, and seen all kinds of offensive stuff. I think anyone with at least 3 brain cells knows that it was false (that's television, the people in the box can't talk back to you) Which come to think of it, are you saying that people actually believe that what's on Saturday Night Live is true? And if they do, do you really want them on your side? Cause I wouldn't. Yikes.

Now if I saw the press covering more stories rather than what Sarah Palin's diet habits are, I would be a happy camper.

The economy is in a state of crap and this is what making headlines. I just took in a dead dog at the shelter yesterday because his owner lost the mortgage on his house. He first wrote the suicide note on the wall, then took a gun blew his dogs brains out, and then his.

So yeah. I liked to start seeing the media and polititians talk about what they are going to do to fix this country. Not what Saturday night live is going to do to stop offending people.
post #13 of 26
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No, actually the economy is making headlines. Most all of the headlines, actually. There's already a 20 page thread on that. And I'm very sorry that you had to witness that scene with the poor dog and the man's desperation at loosing his home. I truly am. I wish no one was going through that, but those stories are being covered and covered thoroughly. That doesn't mean that nothing else is reported on.

I have yet to see any news stories about what Sarah Palin's dietary habits. Maybe it's where you're looking for news?

But you know, since anything goes perhaps I'll pitch SNL an idea about a sketch about Barack and Michelle as slaves, and selling their little girls, or portraying them as Muslims with Michelle strapping bombs to their kids. That carries the same level of humor, IMO. And I sure don't consider it to be satire or social commentary. Just sick, adolescent, immature humor.

When the New Yorker crossed the line with portraying Barack and Michelle as Muslim terrorists in their cover cartoon that also completely missed the satire mark, it was reported on in the news. And we had a thread about it here too. Is this just different because of who was being portrayed?
post #14 of 26
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Is this just different because of who was being portrayed?
Nah..I really don't care either way. Which by the way I don't want to go back and quote but I did think that McCain joke whether he said it or not was funny. I have a sick sense of humor. lol. It's probably why stuff like this doesn't faze me.

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But you know, since anything goes perhaps I'll pitch SNL an idea about a sketch about Barack and Michelle as slaves, and selling their little girls, or portraying them as Muslims with Michelle strapping bombs to their kids. That carries the same level of humor, IMO.
But yet as sick as you think that is, you are the one who thought of it. So does that make you question yourself in anyway? Just curious.

Weird and probably unruly stuff crosses my mind all the time. It doesn't mean I believe it or at that give it a second thought. So I am not trying to upset you, more than I am curious.

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I have yet to see any news stories about what Sarah Palin's dietary habits.
Do I want to find that article? hmmm..lol. You know I saw it the day she was announced VP and I was pretty offended by it. It was my morning Associated Press news though. Top headlines, they were...


I actually did "get" the New Yorker's point. It made sense to me about the point they were trying to get across. But once again it's just one of those things that I don't care about.

I just wish these attacks back and forth would just quit by a conversational standpoint. I can't and you can't help what is put out there but I believe as an American we have got to keep the focus on what's really important. Everyone here is just so quick to point the finger and loop peoples into the whole lot when that's just not true. It's still this me vs. them mentality and as adult I have outgrown that.

On that note. I am going to the mall. I need to do my part and boost that economy!
post #15 of 26
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Is this just different because of who was being portrayed?
Nah..I really don't care either way. Which by the way I don't want to go back and quote but I did think that McCain joke whether he said it or not was funny. I have a sick sense of humor. lol. It's probably why stuff like this doesn't faze me.
So true- just like if I watch "Family Guy" or "Southpark", I have to remind myself to keep my hackles down because no one's forcing me to watch, and knowing the reputation of those shows, I do know what to expect


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On that note. I am going to the mall. I need to do my part and boost that economy!
Good for you!
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...ew-york-times/

I realize that anything goes in this political arena, and especially this election season, but I guess basic taste has been thrown out like the baby with the bath water. Is Hollywood really this desperate to get Obama elected? Wait, don't answer that. I already know the answer...
what you mean hoolywood is expected to be act like real human beings? not going to happen.
You should know by now, there are different sets of rules. depending on who you vote for.

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And it is even more tasteless than John McCain's joke about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because Janet Reno is her "father."
as already said that was 10 years ago, and not a lie, she is ugly.

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Just to be clear on that McCain joke, by the way, I have no doubt that he said it, but there is no recording of it anywhere. However, it was so widely reported, with the same words, that either everyone got it wrong from the same source, or they all got it right, which is the likeliest explanation.

And McCain apologized to Bill Clinton for it in person.
always sounded like something that came from, i overhead someone say they where at party where someone said, that mccain said that.
post #17 of 26
I saw this, and it was about a reporter attempting to dig up dirt about Todd Palin at the NY Times. It was funny because he was stretching to connect him to something that wasn't even close to being true.

I think being offended kind of misses the point of the joke. It was lampooning the media not the Palin family.
post #18 of 26
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I really do have a sense of humor...but I just don't think that incest is one of those things that can be used for a joke. Just like I don't think rape or kiddie porn should be used for a joke. I would say it's just me, but obviously it's not because even SNL decided not to put that skit online, and it is being reported as "falling flat".

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But yet as sick as you think that is, you are the one who thought of it. So does that make you question yourself in anyway? Just curious.

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I actually did "get" the New Yorker's point. It made sense to me about the point they were trying to get across. But once again it's just one of those things that I don't care about.
The difference between that skit and what I sarcastically proposed is that the writers of the script apparently thought it was actually funny to use incest like that. I was thinking of what could possibly be the most repugnant situation to put the Obamas in, that some sick would think funny.

I "got" the New Yorker's point, but it wasn't an obvious point that they were bashing the Right and not just portraying Obama like that. Well, to anyone who isn't familiar with the New Yorker anyway because they lean so far Left they are almost laying down.

But a lot of people aren't familiar with the New Yorker, and some people still do think that Obama is Muslim. And some people buy into the claim that Rush and McCain agree on illegal immigration. So yeah, there are people out there who probably would believe the claims of incest, or would at least want to believe it. Unfortunately that's the political climate right now.
post #19 of 26
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Unfortunately that's the political climate right now.
Yeah and that's the worst part of it for me. Too bad we all can't just get along! lol.

Ah, I can't wait for November 5th. Then we will have more fun things to talk about.

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On that note. I am going to the mall. I need to do my part and boost that economy!

Good for you!
Thanks! I feel I did my part. I am planning a trip to New Orleans in 4 weeks, and then I will be doing my part even more!
post #20 of 26
I watch SNL sometimes and I saw that skit and thought ooooh that was low but nothing beyond that. It was a politically incorrect joke taken one step too far.

Why is anyone taking a writer from SNL and equating that to Obama? As far as I know he has no part in writing the scripts. He has been lampooned on the show too during the primaries. SNL likes to try to shock people. Sometimes it can be tasteless. Which is why I don't watch Southpark or those types of shows because I find them too tasteless too often.
post #21 of 26
Bill O'Reilly had a piece on last night, they beleive that MN Governor candidate Al Franken (D) was involved in the piece. Make if that what you will.
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Bill O'Reilly had a piece on last night, they beleive that MN Governor candidate Al Fraken (D) was invovled in the piece. Make if that what you will.
No, I read that he was involved in the opening number with McCain, not the controversial skit.
post #23 of 26
I find a lot of things funny, and while I'm sure I might have laughed had I seen it, the topic of incest is really taboo. The insinuation that Todd Palin impregnated his teenage daughter is sick enough, but to say that he's "done it" with both daughters is highly disturbing. Yes, it's supposed to be funny and satirical and it's highly unlikely that anyone thought they were serious about the accusations.

However, the ramifications that the show might have had on victims of incest, (yes VICTIMS) is disturbing to me. While topics of incest might offend some, victims could have been traumatized by the show. There is a difference between being offensive and causing trauma.

I agree with valanhb, making topics like incest, rape, molestation, kiddie porn, etc. "funny" should be off-limits. People should not be afraid to watch a humor show.
post #24 of 26
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No, I read that he was involved in the opening number with McCain, not the controversial skit.
Not what I gathered from the report I watched. Apparently he's being credited with contributing several scenes from Saturday.

Regardless of which, it's highly inappropriate of someone running for office to participate in such.
post #25 of 26
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Not what I gathered from the report I watched. Apparently he's being credited with contributing several scenes from Saturday.

Regardless of which, it's highly inappropriate of someone running for office to participate in such.
Franken is a dolt. I have never liked him. I doubt he had a hand in that skit but he is still a dolt.
post #26 of 26
To be fair, I haven't seen the clip, but the descriptions make it sound like SNL was making fun of the NYT for going so far out in left field to uncover/invent dirt on the GOP candidates. Several previous posters (who did see the clip) have indicated they got the same impression.

So, you've got SNL making fun of NYT staffers for being such a bunch of twits that they would invent some sort of unlikely, unsubstantiated, and especially taboo incest angle in their rabidly pro-Democrat coverage...? Right?

Haven't we been accusing them of that all along (the part about the Dem-loving media)?
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