Originally Posted by Momofmany
I have done a lot of reading about the equality movement since it began in the 1800's. In its early stages, the people (mostly women) who demanded equal rights did so on behalf of both women and those enslaved. I'm not sure when black men got the right to vote, but I want to say it was in the 1870's-1880's, many years before women got the same right. Susan B. Anthony was very close friends with Frederick Douglas when they both fought for equal rights for all. Their friendship had a falling out when he stopped supporting the women's equality and fought solely for black male equality. He knew that both causes could not win together because the country was not yet ready to allow women to vote.
Now over 100 years later, we are seeing a similar situation. The country's ingrained double standard against women has reared its ugly head. While we all would like to think its history, it isn't. If history repeats itself, we're still at least 20 years away from seeing a woman in the Oval Office.
Interesting about Frederick Douglas.
I think there is some sexism out there and I do think women in traditional males roles have a harder time. I never thought I would see an African American male have a real shot of being President to be honest. His wife has had to endure some potshots too for being such a strong woman.
I can't support a woman for being just being a woman. Maybe it is because in my mind that isn't fair either. In order for equality to work a woman should stand on her merits and her achievements and not her gender. Then we can look at her as a human being with her sex as a secondary thought.
Women are free to make any choices they want to as a career and you see more and more women in positions of power. Which I think is a good thing.
But to say criticizing a woman as a parent diminishes a role I am proud of. I am proud to be a mother and good or bad I find that just as important as being a former executive, or an Ivy League graduate, or any of the other things I have achieved. I think the old style feminism is dead. Women are free to embrace the choice of being a full time Mommy and be just as strong and important as Carla Fiorina or Hillary Clinton or Susan B Anthony. Men can take backseat roles without a question to their masculinity as used to be the case. Both of my grandmothers were exceptional women. One got a graduate degree while raising small children and the other devoted her life to her family. One was a business woman who became successful in a time when women didn't do those things. I am talking in the 40s. The other was a country woman of humble origins who raised children and is proud of her role as mother and grandmother. Both raised three children who went on to become very successful by society's standards. Each deserving of admiration for their strength.
It takes strength to be a good parent and if I am judged as a mother so be it. It takes strength to be a good father and they should be judged the same. To me my mothering is a reflection of who I am and it gives me more joy than a 6 figure salary ever could have.
So I do see children as a reflection of their parents. If it were Todd Palin in the same position with the same family I would think the same exact thing which is what I think feminism is about.