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post #121 of 135
I didn't think there was such a thing as verification anymore, at least not in this election. But, you're correct, it cannot be verified as it was, supposedly,
behind closed doors. I'm sure he will deny it.
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I'm sure he will deny it.
He does.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09...-nuclear-iran/
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Joe Biden’s spokesman vehemently denied a report in an Israeli newspaper Monday that said the Delaware senator was quoted saying Israel would have to “reconcile†itself with a nuclear Iran.
post #123 of 135
Oh, oh, is Joe Biden priming us for his withdrawal?
Is Obama wanting Hillary to pull his butt out of the fire?
Would Hillary even try?

The plot thickens

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi....html#comments

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September 10, 2008
Categories: Joe Biden

Biden bows to Clinton

Biden, today in Nashua, NH, in response to an inaudible question from an audience member:

“Make no mistake about it Hillary Clinton is as qualified as or more qualified than I am†to be vice president, Biden said. “And quite frankly, she may have been a better pick than me.â€



By Ben Smith 04:40 PM
post #124 of 135
I guess a little dose of humility is a crime nowadays.

I suppose if you aren't reading from note cards, like Sarah Barracuda, you may make mistakes from time to time. They are keep her sequestered because they are afraid she will make much more serious errors.
post #125 of 135
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I guess a little dose of humility is a crime nowadays.

I suppose if you aren't reading from note cards, like Sarah Barracuda, you may make mistakes from time to time. They are keep her sequestered because they are afraid she will make much more serious errors.
Are we name calling here now also? I don't don't understand your post, to tell the truth.

After the way the Media has slandered, lied, trashed Sarah Palin, good for her and McCain. Make the media wait. She will be interviewed tonight so
be happy.
post #126 of 135
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Are we name calling here now also?
I don't think they are name calling her. That was her nickname in highschool when she played basketball.
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I don't think they are name calling her. That was her nickname in highschool when she played basketball.

Yeah they used the Heart song after her speech at the convention.
post #128 of 135
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Are we name calling here now also? I don't don't understand your post, to tell the truth.

After the way the Media has slandered, lied, trashed Sarah Palin, good for her and McCain. Make the media wait. She will be interviewed tonight so
be happy.
Huh? You didn't realize that was her nickname in high school when she played basketball? There was a whole hoopla over Heart not wanting McCain to use their song.
I am not buying the whole media is mean so we aren't talking line. Politicians have to have a tough skin. She has not been treated any worse than than many people in the public eye. Always blaming the media is getting old.
post #129 of 135
She has been treated worse than anyone I have ever seen in the media.
Anyone! By Far! Sexism at its' worst by the media and by women, it is pathetic IMO.

And a "thick skin"? Sure, she has one. But you know, some things are unacceptable, some vile, filthy, rotten, lies are unacceptable. So, if the media doesn't like it, tough. She is not trying to impress the media, I think she has made that very clear. I wouldn't blame her one bit if she never gave an interview.

I really believe that sometimes you have to stand up and say, enough.
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She has been treated worse than anyone I have ever seen in the media.
Anyone! By Far! Sexism at its' worst by the media and by women, it is pathetic IMO.

And a "thick skin"? Sure, she has one. But you know, some things are unacceptable, some vile, filthy, rotten, lies are unacceptable. So, if the media doesn't like it, tough. She is not trying to impress the media, I think she has made that very clear. I wouldn't blame her one bit if she never gave an interview.

I really believe that sometimes you have to stand up and say, enough.
I think it sounds like some women want to maintain a double-standard. It's great to be liberated and women can do anything they set their mind to. However, when it gets to where it's okay to trash the male candidates, but don't pick on the poor little woman - sure does set feminism back a few decades.

Have you heard what Palin said about Hilary Clinton when she was complaining that the press was picking on her? Very enlightning, and I happen to agree with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Y8FKAsxmk

Politics are not for the faint of heart, it appears, based on some of the mud I've heard being slung (and IMO the Republicans are the worst for slinging it). This supposed indignation is only to stir up the "masses" into going out and voting for them. I say if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you want respect, then earn it.

I suspect she's not talking to the press, because they're worried about what she might say (for whatever reason). Also, it gives us all something to talk about and keep her name in the headlines.
post #131 of 135
I really hope she takes her own advice and thumbs her nose at such critics. Also, she shouldn't allow the sexists in either party to persuade her to change her physical image, i.e., "style" her hair or insist she wear contacts to make her "more attractive". There are already enough male chauvinists calling her a "babe".

Maybe it's just me, but I felt that Hillary was, to her detriment, overstyled and made up during the primaries. Her male opponents were, too, but obviously it wasn't much of an issue with them.

Nobody has commented on Todd Palin's clothing, but Cindy McCain's wardrobe and jewelry get a lot of press.

I'm not a Palin fan, but I was really annoyed today when I read in a German news magazine that her hairstyle was "deliberately casual". Excuse me? She's the working mother of five children, the oldest of whom is barely out of his teens, the youngest an infant, and is on the campaign trail. Is she supposed to make the time to have a personal hairstylist do her hair x number of times a day, despite the fact that the way she wears it really suits her?
Are superficialities the only things that count nowadays?
post #132 of 135
Thread Starter 
Do you remember my post that said this?

Unfortunately, I think the Biden choice may eventually be seen as the first big nail in the coffin of Obama's campaign. After all, in 2004, Biden supported McCain as a VP pick for Kerry, and that was AFTER the Iraq war had already started going sour

It was about 4 pages back, in this thread.

Today, even Biden seems to be saying this, and I have heard it from several Democratic strategists. Now, I think this is a little bit of a panic stampede for the doors, but it is ironic, isn't it?
post #133 of 135
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I think it sounds like some women want to maintain a double-standard. It's great to be liberated and women can do anything they set their mind to. However, when it gets to where it's okay to trash the male candidates, but don't pick on the poor little woman - sure does set feminism back a few decades.

Have you heard what Palin said about Hilary Clinton when she was complaining that the press was picking on her? Very enlightning, and I happen to agree with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Y8FKAsxmk

Politics are not for the faint of heart, it appears, based on some of the mud I've heard being slung (and IMO the Republicans are the worst for slinging it). This supposed indignation is only to stir up the "masses" into going out and voting for them. I say if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you want respect, then earn it.

I suspect she's not talking to the press, because they're worried about what she might say (for whatever reason). Also, it gives us all something to talk about and keep her name in the headlines.
I listened to the YouTube of Sarah Palin. FTR, Sarah Palin has no "perceived whine," we have been whining for her.

As far as pubs slinging more mud than dems , I can't agree on that, haven't anyone saying Michele Obama had an affair or that Obama's kids aren't really his or Michele is a product of incest or any of that kind of scummy remarks but hey, we all perceive differently.
post #134 of 135
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I listened to the YouTube of Sarah Palin. FTR, Sarah Palin has no "perceived whine," we have been whining for her.

As far as pubs slinging more mud than dems , I can't agree on that, haven't anyone saying Michele Obama had an affair or that Obama's kids aren't really his or Michele is a product of incest or any of that kind of scummy remarks but hey, we all perceive differently.
I am not understanding why people think it is alright for someone who wants to be vice president to dodge the press. I can't fathom why this is okay. How can you put your life into someone's hands that you have only known for 2 weeks! How in the world does she have the luxury to stay out of the press except for one interview!
I have never heard of anyone doing this and then the public accepting it.
She gets to dodge the press because there were some nasty stories about her? This is not an actress or a celebrity this is someone who will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
She has been reciting the same lines over and over from a speech someone else wrote for her.
But somehow I am supposed to just accept her. Just because.

At least with the other three we are familiar with them whether we like them or not. We want this woman to potentially be in charge of our military and to make important executive decisions. I would not let someone that I had only known for two weeks babysit my daughter or even cat sit my cats. But I am supposed to make the leap of faith to trust that she has all of the qualities that make a good president. Based on what? Based on what pundits and politicians say?

At least with Biden he has to answer questions about his voting record or history. You can disagree with him based on substance.
post #135 of 135
"Based on what?"

Based on her past performances as a Mayor, based on past performances as Governor, based on testimonials of her colleagues in politics and personal life.
Based on her achievements while in office.

I saw part of her interview last night.

But, as predicted, ABC edited her interview. For a more complete and honest view, watch it on Nightline, it was not as edited from what I am hearing.

Now, when Barack Obama had his five part interview with Bill O'Reilly on Fox
(which, incidentally, will be shown in its' entirety this Sunday 9-14)
Bill O'Reilly told Obama the interview would not be edited. When interviews are edited they can be made to seem different than they really are. But, O'Reilly is more honest than the MSM.
Palin should have gone to O'Reilly for her first interview and to heck with the MSM. IMO that is.

Remember, she was only chosen two weeks ago to be McCain's VP nominee.
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