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I know that the first thing I'll do at 5 a.m. CET (11 p.m. EST, November 4) on November 5 is check out all the email "breaking news" reports I get, and the TV, but honestly, this election is so close, and whoever is elected will be faced with so many problems, that I think my reaction will be to shrug my shoulders. My prediction is that there won't be any major changes in U.S. national or international policies in the next four years, because whoever is in office, at the White House or in Congress, will have to concentrate on damage control.

In other words, I just can't get "passionate" about any of the candidates, because if I were in their position, I'd drop out of the race. Talk about a "no-win" situation, and "career killing".
post #182 of 190
Yeah, those polls don't mean to much. I remember the exit polls in 2004 that said Kerry had it in the bag. It ain't over till it's over.
It will be closer. I'm worried about voter fraud. I can handle my guy losing if I have faith it was a fair election. But if we can't even have a fair election anymore in this country what's the use.
post #183 of 190
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I'm worried about voter fraud.

With organizations like http://www.rottenacorn.com/, that's a legitimate concern.
Guess who they endorse? http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campa...=45&pid=289192
post #184 of 190
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Yeah, those polls don't mean to much. I remember the exit polls in 2004 that said Kerry had it in the bag. It ain't over till it's over.
It will be closer. I'm worried about voter fraud. I can handle my guy losing if I have faith it was a fair election. But if we can't even have a fair election anymore in this country what's the use.
I know. Winning fair and square is what makes people come together as a country. But if some people feel robbed then it is hard to make a case for bringing the country together after the election.
Sometimes I wonder if it is about actual governing or about winning.
post #185 of 190
but its only winning fair if obama wins.
post #186 of 190
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but its only winning fair if obama wins.
Not to me. Like I said I may argue some points here but I don't think the kind of candidate I would like will ever be able to be President.

I have done more thinking and more reading and I have come to the conclusion that McCain is going to be nothing like Bush. He is using the evangelicals to get elected and then he will ditch them. He and Cindy are not really conservatives. They are just Republicans. I think there are going to be some really annoyed angry people if he gets elected and it won't just be the left.
I would not be surprised if he decided to settle old scores.
post #187 of 190
haha, and that is the reason many rep,wont get behind him. They dont trust him.

but for what it is worth, the last number had mccain up 15% with independet voters.

Mccain is about as middle of the road as they came(kinda like how i think most people are). bush was far right, kerry was far left, Obama is far left, over all america i think pefer those in the middle. not far right or left.
post #188 of 190
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haha, and that is the reason many rep,wont get behind him. They dont trust him.

but for what it is worth, the last number had mccain up 15% with independet voters.

Mccain is about as middle of the road as they came(kinda like how i think most people are). bush was far right, kerry was far left, Obama is far left, over all america i think pefer those in the middle. not far right or left.
I think you are probably right. The thing is I am personally much more affected by what happens in my state than I am by what happens in Washington.
Some say a McCain presidency will make the Bush years seem like the good ole days.
post #189 of 190
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Not to me. Like I said I may argue some points here but I don't think the kind of candidate I would like will ever be able to be President.

I have done more thinking and more reading and I have come to the conclusion that McCain is going to be nothing like Bush. He is using the evangelicals to get elected and then he will ditch them. He and Cindy are not really conservatives. They are just Republicans. I think there are going to be some really annoyed angry people if he gets elected and it won't just be the left.
I would not be surprised if he decided to settle old scores.

I, respectfully, disagree strongly with your last sentence.
"Settling old scores" is not what John McCain is about.
You are talking about Senator John McCain who was the leader of the pack
when it came to re-establishing diplomatic relations with Viet Nam.
I don't think he gets into "settling old scores"
post #190 of 190
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I, respectfully, disagree strongly with your last sentence.
"Settling old scores" is not what John McCain is about.
You are talking about Senator John McCain who was the leader of the pack
when it came to re-establishing diplomatic relations with Viet Nam.
I don't think he gets into "settling old scores"
Then with all due respect I think you are naive. McCain is not above that. No politician is. Politics is much different than legislating. McCain is known to have a mean streak and to hold grudges. Many of his fellow Republicans have commented on it too. I am sorry but I would not put it past any politician much less him.
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