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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
This article made me so angry and I wanted to know what all of you thought.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100162

It think the second girl is just as cute!!!

Manda
post #2 of 18
They are both cute little girls and I do feel bad for the little girl who didn't get to perform, but the Chinese wanted everything to be perfect. It is like movie casting, if an actor doesn't quite fit what the director envisions, then the director finds a different actor. It is done all the time.
post #3 of 18
Yeah, but you don't get the second actor to lip-sync to the first's lines! I think its sad, and the little girl was cute, although maybe less cute than the one they replaced her with.
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
I would be ok with it if it had been a total switch, but the fact that the girl who sang didn't get credit for it or get to stand up there is very sad.

Manda
post #5 of 18
I thought the kid was cute. I didn’t think the other kid was cuter. Maybe prettier, but on a cute scale I thought they were the same. That’s not very nice =( I just hope the kid is too young to realize just how superficial that was and not take offence.
post #6 of 18
It didn't suprise me when i read this story- China has already admitted to faking part of the fireworks during the opening ceremony, i'm not suprised that the music in this instance was not genuine eithor.

I feel sorry for the little Yang Peiyi she should have recieved the credit she deserved for her hard work and talent. She is a cute child too.

Nothing like communism to make things more interesting

Heaven forbid China actually put an effort towards getting the little girl proper dental care, instead they just hide her and don't give her the credit she deserves. Sad. They really manipulate their people.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by cata_mint View Post
Yeah, but you don't get the second actor to lip-sync to the first's lines! I think its sad, and the little girl was cute, although maybe less cute than the one they replaced her with.
doesn't happen much anymore w/o credit, but it has in the past - Audrey Hepburn did NOT do her own singing in My Fair Lady.
post #8 of 18
I am not sure what the big deal is. China had a beautiful opening ceremony and if there were some areas they smoothed over a little bit, who cares? Frankly when I saw all the fireworks going off I thought it a bit excessive and dangerous. I am glad some of it was computer generated didn't take away me enjoyment. As for the little girl, lipsynching happens all the time. As for the real singer not being cute enough well that also happens in show business. Our culture is not any better. Just look at our magazines. See any average looking people in there. No, because it doesn't sell. There are things wrong in China that can be reported but these two stories just seem to be nitpicky to me.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by peachytoday View Post
I am not sure what the big deal is. China had a beautiful opening ceremony and if there were some areas they smoothed over a little bit, who cares? Frankly when I saw all the fireworks going off I thought it a bit excessive and dangerous. I am glad some of it was computer generated didn't take away me enjoyment. As for the little girl, lipsynching happens all the time. As for the real singer not being cute enough well that also happens in show business. Our culture is not any better. Just look at our magazines. See any average looking people in there. No, because it doesn't sell. There are things wrong in China that can be reported but these two stories just seem to be nitpicky to me.
I agree with that to. I do feel badly for the little girl to have been nixed because of her looks though. A shame that society everywhere puts such heavy value on perceived beauty and physical perfection.

So far as the lip synching goes though, I did think it was taped because if you watched her mouth in comparison to the sounds coming out, they didn't match up well at all. I didn't know however that it was someone else singing.
post #10 of 18
Showbusiness is showbusiness. Stunt double in movies get their names on the screen at the end, but they get no fame. They're the ones who do the moves that people pay to see, but they don't have the face, or the acting ability, so someone better looking gets the credit.

I can't believe this is even a news story!

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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
It didn't suprise me when i read this story- China has already admitted to faking part of the fireworks during the opening ceremony, i'm not suprised that the music in this instance was not genuine eithor.
It was only the footprints that were computer generated, and I didn't think they were real anyway. It was a very cool display I thought!

What annoys me, is that if it was say the Sydney Olympics that did the fireworks, it would have been lauded as excellent computer generation. But because China did it, and people want to not like China, it's called "faking", and treated with contempt, and reported in a way that sways the general public to look down on what was a great ceremony. (Nikki, this isn't aimed at you, it's aimed at the media!)
post #11 of 18
The fireworks were only computer generated to make sure people watching on tv would see everything as clearly as someone who was actually there.

I think the switch over of the girls was a snap decision, made by one judgmental official, and can't really be blamed on communism.

I'd completely forgotten about My Fair Lady, good point Laureen!
post #12 of 18
Whether we do it here or not, the practice seems harsh for a small child. I would be equally appalled if America did the same thing. The fireworks I don't care about but this seems kind of mean to do a little girl.
post #13 of 18
Personally, I think a "buck-toothed" 7 yr old would be cuter because she is natural. But, at least China did give her the credit that she deserves (maybe not willingly but they did give it). People will remember her name rather than the name of the "cuter" child that stood in for her.
post #14 of 18
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7736848.story

The L.A. Times had a story on both the little girl switch and the computer generated fireworks. It's got a lot more detail and gives some of the viewpoint of the Chinese people themselves.
post #15 of 18
Like you really believed Lin Miaoke was singing that anyway? Not a chance. Yes she is by far the cuter of the two girls and does look adorable up there as their poster child, so I can see why they did it, but I think it would have made a much better impression to have the actual singer on show. That would have said more than "Look how cute" it would have also said "We like people for who they are"

Don't get me wrong, it was a mean thing to do, but this the Olympics, the entire world is watching. They had to put on a show that lived up to that expectation. They just misinterpreted the fact that the rest of the world would be more appalled by this than by crooked teeth. However if it were two adults, I don't think people would mind so much. Afterall, how many talent shows do we have? And how many adults have not been put through because of their looks? In England it's been a fair few and no one cared.

As for the fireworks, kinda let down on that, I wanted them to have really used all that much gunpowder, but that's probably just the pyro in me. Deep down I thought that was fake too. But it is just a giant show. Of course they're going to fake some aspects. To think that nobody every fakes it is tantamount to burrying your head in the sand.
post #16 of 18
Simple really, don't like what you saw??? Don't watch. Milli Vanilli had us all conned for what, a year? What little outrage was there and yes, the lip syncing was all because the original singers weren't that good looking either!

I think China did an excellent job of the opening ceremony...plus, I doubt whatever world records are tumbling down wouldn't have happened without all the effort that went into creating the most up to date venues available...

I haven't heard anything about the athletes complaining about the situation...

Moral of the story, "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"

Would be interesting to see if London can top the China Olympics opening ceremony...
post #17 of 18
London doesn't have the sheer amount of people to pull off the 2008 drummers.
post #18 of 18
It's China. What did you expect? Everything we are seeing in the Olympics is a charade put on for the benefit of the world. Life in the rest of China isn't any different, and possibly worse, than it was before. People trying to exercise their basic rights as humans are being put in prison. Lucky for this little girl, she just got called "not cute enough." We should be grateful they didn't throw her in prison to keep her quiet.
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