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The Brits are trying to be PC!!!

post #1 of 19
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle4458852.ece

Children can not be labeled what they are - obese. Instead, "very overweight" must suffice. Also, they do not need exercise - "physical activity" is what they need instead.
post #2 of 19
The people who come up with this stuff need to be flogged.
post #3 of 19
Don't they have anything better and more worthwhile to do????
post #4 of 19
Even if we question HOW they're doing it, WHAT they're doing seems very worthwhile. It's important to try to deal with childhood "very overweightness" as much as possible. This is a worldwide epidemic and is threatening the health of future generations in serious ways.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by katie=^..^= View Post
Even if we question HOW they're doing it, WHAT they're doing seems very worthwhile. It's important to try to deal with childhood "very overweightness" as much as possible. This is a worldwide epidemic and is threatening the health of future generations in serious ways.
Yes it is a serious issue. I feel sad when I see an obese child or a chubby kid. We didn't have many overweight kids in school growing up. I don't remember anyone being noticeably fat except for one or two kids. I remember one girl in high school who was obese. We thought of it then as something odd and weird because it was so unusual. This is 15 or so years ago. What has happened has happened very quickly and it is scary because these children are starting out life unhealthy and at risk for serious diseases.
My ex who comes from an Italian family that equates food with love is baffled. In his family everyone is thin. He is first generation. His parents were born in Italy. When we go to Italy no one is big like they are in America.
I guess now England is expanding too. Why?

I don't think sugar coating it is going to help though. They need to worry less about the linguistics and more about the problem.
post #6 of 19
honestly if the government put as much energy into actually solving these problems as they do in thinking up a 'nice' word then we would be far nearer a solution.

it is crazy here now with all this political correctness.
post #7 of 19
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I have a solution for helping keep kids thin....

Ban all of those Nintendo things and TV during daytime hours.

Cut back on the pre-processed crap. Large amounts of good food are better than Mickey D's or Lunchables or the fake stuff.

If it is decent day, kick the kids out of the house.

The unfortunate thing is that everybody thinks that their neighbor is an axe murderer or pedophile so people don't let their kids roam free.


***disclaimer***

I don't have kids, but I have been accused of acting more like my shoe size than my age
post #8 of 19
My comments were directed at the "words" - not the problem. Yes its a problem and should be addressed. Changing the words to be "nice" is the not worthwhile part.
post #9 of 19
The only group of kids I've known that were sent outside to play used to spend their days in the local library because if they went into their local park the bigger kids would bully them, and the estate they lived in was too dangerous for them to play in. In my city, people don't let their kids play in the streets in case they get hit by a car, which is a very real possibility.

Whatever happened to parents taking their kids to the park, or after school football/cricket/basketball/swimming clubs? (Having said that, I loathed cricket club, but was forced to attend)

Children today do much less mandatory exercise compared with my dad's school days. He used to spend whole afternoons playing football or cricket. I spent 50 mins a week shivering by the side of a cockroach infested swimming pool.

I think sports need to be made more accessible. The overweight kids are almost guaranteed to have had a bad experience of sport, and so will not want to take part in something they will probably be bad at, particularly when compared to their slimmer classmates, who are bound to make cruel comments.

Maybe mandatory junior fitness club for children over a certain weight?
post #10 of 19
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I guess now England is expanding too. Why?
Easy, theres too much fast food available these days to when i was a child. I was brought up on fresh vegetables and meat or homemade soups with crusty bread. Now they have quick and easy things like chicken nuggets with chips, sausages with chips, beefburger with chips, and the list of processed food goes on. Kids don't play out as much as i did either because their upstairs on their computers.
post #11 of 19
This is becoming a world-wide problem and the explanations are numerous, although most link to fast-food. I even saw a TV show about overweight children in China. It is becoming a problem in Europe.

Just in the last five years the number of overweight children has become extraordinary. I am in my 60s and only a few children were ever overweight when I was young. People stayed thin generally until their late 30s, when weight would become an issue for many.

I have Type II Diabetes and as the population gains weight, it has become an epidemic. It's not unusual for the high school students in my daughter's classrooms to have Type II Diabetes or high blood pressure now. If almost a whole generation has health problems as children what will happen to that generation as they get older? Will the life expectancy start to go down? It's a frightening equation.

I read Fast Food Nation by Eric Schollser. It isn't about how bad fast food is for health, but about how fast-food restaurants have changed the whole way we eat -- the times we eat, even whether we use utensils -- and the way the food is grown, processed and prepared. It's a hard book to read, way too many facts, very dense with them, but it showed me how much how world has changed, and how bad it's been for us.
post #12 of 19
I am very strict about the food that comes into my house and into my daughter's body. We don't eat microwave meals, we don't do fast food and we don't eat junk. I cook fresh from scratch meals nightly and if we do eat out or get take out it is from places that cook wholesome meals.
It takes extra effort but it pays off in the end.
I control portion sizes too because portions have gotten ridiculous.
I am fortunate that my daughter is able to play in our yard safely and she is very active. I have to work harder to make these happen than my mother did when I was a child.
post #13 of 19
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I am very strict about the food that comes into my house and into my daughter's body. We don't eat microwave meals, we don't do fast food and we don't eat junk. I cook fresh from scratch meals nightly and if we do eat out or get take out it is from places that cook wholesome meals.
It takes extra effort but it pays off in the end.
I control portion sizes too because portions have gotten ridiculous.
I am fortunate that my daughter is able to play in our yard safely and she is very active. I have to work harder to make these happen than my mother did when I was a child.
Your last sentence says it all. Parents have to work very hard to raise their children now. Much harder than their parents worked to raise them. It seems to get harder with every generation to do the most basic things -- namely providing food, shelter, clothing, education and medical care.
post #14 of 19
Personally, as a "BBW" or "Obese Person" or "Heavy", or whatever the PC term is today, I'd rather just be called "Fat", which is what it is that is making me "BBW" or "Obese" or "Heavy"

I saw on the news the other day that there is some place in Canada that is looking at doing BMI on each child at the start of the year and putting the results on each of their report cards.
post #15 of 19
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I saw on the news the other day that there is some place in Canada that is looking at doing BMI on each child at the start of the year and putting the results on each of their report cards.
The Brits seem to have taken the BMI of entering children and 10-11 year olds, but then they got namby-pamby about telling the parents exactly what they were measuring. The article says something about the parents not understanding what the BMI is. If you're going to do this, you need to carry through with educating the parents and helping the families eat more nutritionally and to exercise.

The problem is even though it seems obvious that diet and exercise are involved, no one seems sure what is causing so many children to become "fat."
post #16 of 19
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The problem is even though it seems obvious that diet and exercise are involved, no one seems sure what is causing so many children to become "fat."
Could it be the fact that kids these days aren't as active as they were 2 or 3 decades ago because now the activity of choice are computer games and television?
post #17 of 19
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Could it be the fact that kids these days aren't as active as they were 2 or 3 decades ago because now the activity of choice are computer games and television?
That's exactly it!, that and processed foods.

I'm 49 now, but neither myself or my friends were overweight as kids because we were out playing all the time.
post #18 of 19
That, and the tendency to eliminate P.E. in a lot of the schools. A lot of parents are justifiably frightened to allow their children to play outside unsupervised.

I remember our parents making us go outside. We used to have to ask to be allowed in to go to the bathroom! Our mom's would tell us, "No, I'm cleaning now!" It was considered unhealthy to read too much! "Always got her nose in a book," they used to say -- and that was a bad thing.
post #19 of 19
Yes, lack of physical activity is a big problem (pardon the pun) but one of the biggest problems IMO is the fact that junk food is so cheap and healthy food is expensive. Parents who are struggling financially will automatically go for the cheaper alternative, especially if they are lacking the common sense to know how bad these foods are for their kids.

The other problem is that kids want, kids get these days. When I was younger we got a glass of 7up on sundays. My mother would give us one or two sweets at a time. It has given me good habits for life. Mothers are more than likely out of the home nowadays as well so they have less time to cook healthy meals. They also may have a guilt complex about not getting to spend much time with their kids as they are working so much, so they respond by spoiling them.
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