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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I agree with you. But a lot of people find it harder to be bigoted when they realize that being gay is not a choice people make just to be offensive to their delicate sensibilities.

When people realize that gay people can't make themselves straight anymore than a straight person could make himself gay, a lot of the "arguments" go right out the window.
It's hard to stay judgmental and bigoted sometimes, esp. if you believe in the Bible, and read that Jesus says "Judge not......"
It's interesting to read about the theories on finger length...my ring finger is longer than my index finger and although I'm not lesbian, I HATE shopping & house decorating and my male co-workers told me that I was like working with a "F'n" guy (they meant is as a compliment). I'd rather wear baggy men's clothes and be comfortable, than a "flattering" outfit that reveals to whatever man sees me, the accurate size of my bust and whether or not my "bootle" portrays me as a "goer" I rarely wear make-up, or nail polish.....but I do love it when a gentleman holds the door open for me
post #32 of 43
My ring finger is also longer than my pointer finger. My mom is a lesbian, so I guess I come by it naturally, lol. I am decidedly hetero, but I am not overly girly, either. I dress appropriately at work, but I like to joke that I dress like I'm homeless when I'm off the clock. My boyfriend doesn't seem to mind too much. My ex-husband also never seemed to have a problem with my overly long ring finger. He probably never read the study. My mom's ring finger is shorter than her pointer finger. Yikes. This is all getting very complicated. Maybe I'm the lesbian, and she's just confused.
post #33 of 43
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Originally Posted by boringjen View Post
Yikes. This is all getting very complicated. Maybe I'm the lesbian, and she's just confused.
What a wonderful sense of humor
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I agree with you. But a lot of people find it harder to be bigoted when they realize that being gay is not a choice people make just to be offensive to their delicate sensibilities.

When people realize that gay people can't make themselves straight anymore than a straight person could make himself gay, a lot of the "arguments" go right out the window.
I agree completely. Why is it thought to be a "choice" that a gay person is attracted to the same sex, but it is thought to be innate when a straight person is attracted to the opposite sex? Just because it is the "statistical norm" to be attracted to the opposite sex? Something deviating from the statistical norm does not mean that it is "wrong" or a "choice." (And don't even get me going on the "biblical argument"! )
post #35 of 43
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Originally Posted by kaete View Post
Essentially, yes; I think that's what's being said. Some people just don't belong to the reality-based community. It has a well-known liberal bias, you know (To quote Stephen Colbert. Ha.)
kinda reminds me of when ppl thought the Earth was flat ... anyone who disagreed with them based on early scientific knowledge was hung out to dry . Sir Issac Newton was nearly turned inside out by the Catholic Church for his unproven ( at the time ) theory of gravity.... and we all know as we are floating around our PCs how that turned out.
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
I've always felt that trying to identify personality traits by physical attributes was a tad off kilter myself. I think that body and brain chemistry is where they will finally find their answers. I won't use the word absurd though, because humanity routinely does today what was "absurd" a mere 100 or so years ago.
I think that the statistical correlations are fascinating because they can lead researchers in a direction to search for more causative facts. Whatever causes the fingers to be different lengths might be related to the causes for homosexuality for instance.

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The ring finger length is a statistical fact. It's true for lesbians, as well, except with lesbians, the ring finger is longer than the index in something like 70% (don't quote me on that; I don't recall the exact percentage), while in the heterosexual female population, it's usually shorter (it's interesting that that relates to testosterone; it makes sense that it would have the opposite effect in women.) I happen to have ring fingers and index fingers that are the same length (go figure; always the odd one out ), but believe it or not, it's something we lesbos often compare. Ha. So I have anecdotal evidence to back up the scientific.

There's also a statistical correlation between homosexuality and left-handedness - it's higher in homosexuals than in the general population.

And I can tell you straight up that it's innate. All this scientific mumbo-jumbo (which I guess is necessary to debunk the "it's a sinful choice" nonsense), when all you have to do is ask

Yes. Yes, I was born this way. It's in my genes, my DNA, my index and ring fingers, my hormones, whatever. It's who I am, and it's who I've been since Day One. The research is interesting, but all it does is confirm what we already know.

PS: For anybody who says "My father had 19 older brothers and he's straight" or "my sister doesn't HAVE a ring finger, and she's a lesbian" or whatever... the research isn't saying that it's always that way. It's saying there's a correlation. Having x amount of older brothers doesn't MAKE someone gay... it increases the odds.
Some posters seem to have missed that the finger lengths vary according to your gender. Men's are more nearly equal for homosexuals, but according to Kaete. women's ring finger is longer in lesbians.

I'm not sure where the pointer finger comes in. My index finger is longest, then my ring finger, then pointer, last pinkie and I'm hardly sexual at all.
post #37 of 43
I just really took a look at my hands and my ring finger is longer than my index finger. But only slightly.
I am not sure if that means anything but it is an interesting theory.
I have always been very feminine, girly and straight.
I wonder if depending on your fingers it can also indicate how 'masculine' or 'feminine' a person is. I use the terms in the traditional general sense. I do have some stereotypical 'masculine' traits as well.
Has anyone been studying their hands and thinking too much?
post #38 of 43
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There's also a statistical correlation between homosexuality and left-handedness - it's higher in homosexuals than in the general population.
There is also a higher correlation of left handedness with people in the arts. It has to do with which half of the brain is ruling. The right half of the brain has language and creativity. The left side of the brain rules with math and logic.
post #39 of 43
My first husband and my current husband are both left handed. First husband was really smart at math and mechanical design. My current husband is also really good at math. Neither one of them would fit into a statistic for left handed gay men. I think the people doing the stats have to much time on their hands..... no pun intended
post #40 of 43
I don't know what this has to do with anything, but Bill Clinton is left-handed.
post #41 of 43
I've edited this post seven times, going in different directions each time. Sometimes it best to quit when I'm ahead.
post #42 of 43
I think left hand goes more toward science. Half of the guys/gals in my Chem class were lefties. Dont know?
post #43 of 43
[quote=lookingglass;2364357]So, people really think that I choose to be Bi when I grew up in small town Ohio where crosses are still burned, and gay people are beat up on a regular basis?


Yeah, that I have loved living my life feeling different, outcast, said to be a "sinner", too! Why wouldn't I "choose" this lifestyle!!!
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