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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Please help keep this from passing!
Here is the actual bill:
http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.u...0710110513.pdf

Page 8 is where it states the pet limit. I have quoted the text:



Quote:
> (d) Section 6(a) (D.C. Official Code ' 8-1805(a)) is amended by
> adding the following: “The Mayor shall impound any dogs, cats,
> rabbits, or ferrets, the combination of which exceeds 4 animals,
> or any dogs, cats, rabbits, or ferrets beyond the number authorized
> in an animal hobby permit issued pursuant to section 10.â€

There is nothing that I can see about the "animal hobby permit" mentioned btw. They are expected to vote tomorrow.

List of council members:

http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/members.html
post #2 of 16
4? Why are they doing this? Here I believe it is 8 which is reasonable. Too bad I am over limit right now.
I will sign.
post #3 of 16
D.C. just loved to pass laws limiting everything don't they?

In my town 3 dogs is the limit.
post #4 of 16
Considering that ALL of DC proper is an urban area, I absolutely agree that 4 is reasonable.

People in the business of breeding responsibly are probably not trying to live within the city limits of DC. Don't forget how small it is.

Also, this is probably in response to the rampant dog fighting that is prominent in most urban areas, as well as a serious problem with people who refuse to spay/neuter.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
Considering that ALL of DC proper is an urban area, I absolutely agree that 4 is reasonable.

People in the business of breeding responsibly are probably not trying to live within the city limits of DC. Don't forget how small it is.

Also, this is probably in response to the rampant dog fighting that is prominent in most urban areas, as well as a serious problem with people who refuse to spay/neuter.
Well, what if a rescuer has 7 cats? Or 5 dogs? Why should they be punished?

I have 2 dogs, 2 cats and three guinea pigs, which is 7 animals. They could very easily do well in a smaller residence in D.C. I live in VA, but why should someone like me have to suffer having their animals SEIZED just because someone like YOU thinks they have too many?? If they are taking proper care of their animals, what is the problem?? There are already laws on the books to deal with animal cruelty issues.
post #6 of 16
For some reason the link doesn't work for me.


But I would really like to know who's going to enforce this law?

Don't they have anything better to do?
post #7 of 16
I can't get to the link or I would sign.
post #8 of 16
The government shouldn't be allowed to tell people how many pets they have. A limit on the amount of pets you can have= more animals being dumped or euthanized. (I'd sign it but the link won't come up)
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Sweet72947 View Post
Well, what if a rescuer has 7 cats? Or 5 dogs? Why should they be punished?

I have 2 dogs, 2 cats and three guinea pigs, which is 7 animals. They could very easily do well in a smaller residence in D.C. I live in VA, but why should someone like me have to suffer having their animals SEIZED just because someone like YOU thinks they have too many?? If they are taking proper care of their animals, what is the problem?? There are already laws on the books to deal with animal cruelty issues.
That's exactly my point-- I don't necessarily think YOU should have yours seized, if you actually have the space for them. From your location, I'm guessing you live in the DC suburbs, which if you read my post I explicitly excluded from my reasoning. No reason for you to get personally offended, as if they tried to extend the law to a less urban area I would be in complete agreement with you.

I would love to have more pets, but I live in a cramped, urban area and realize one is enough for now. Unfortunately, many in similar situations do not realize this, and have too many, and though that doesn't qualify under any existing abuse law I know of, IMO it is abuse.

I suppose I could agree with you that there needs to be something in there about temporary populations and rescues, something that is probably easily fixed by declaring yourself a rescue organization instead of a private home, therefore making the law not apply to you.

We're all on the animals' side here.
post #10 of 16
I live in Arlington, a DC "suburb" (really, a city in its own right). There are plenty of residences in DC larger than mine (an 850sqft apartment). I have four pets (two cats and two ferrets). We're hardly tripping over one another, and the place is clean and smells great. I could easily handle twice as many pets with no problem. The law is arbitrary and absurd.

For the record, I can't stand DC. I think it's an absolute disgrace as the nation's capital. Even if you can overlook its laws, you can't look past the trash, crime, and squalor in so much of the city. Sure, the areas tourists frequent are generally kept up to some degree, but when I can sit at a red light in DC, with the Capitol Building in plain view, and watch drug deals taking place and hookers strolling around, I can't help but be a little disturbed. In my recent job search, I absolutely refused to even consider a position in DC (a five or ten minute commute). I can't stand the place. I've visited many cities that would do a far better job as our nation's capital.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by SportBikeMike View Post
The government shouldn't be allowed to tell people how many pets they have. A limit on the amount of pets you can have= more animals being dumped or euthanized. (I'd sign it but the link won't come up)
They shouldn't be allowed to tell you what type of pets you can own either. This is just another dumb, stupid law to waste our tax dollars.
post #12 of 16
I do know in my city, we have a 3 pet limit, plus if your not a breeder you MUST fix your animals so they can't make more. If you get caught with more the ASPCA comes by & tells you to get rid of them, If they have to come back after the recheck, then they fine you and remove the animals. I know also someone has to turn you in for the ASPCA to come and take a head count. My friend was turned in because she had 12 outside cats that were strays, and the man next door did not like them pooping in his yard, so he called. The city would have leaned her home if she had not delt with the request. Funny thing is, she took them to the city ASPCA, and they had to deal with the cost of the cats anyway. I also know the city will give you a permit, to care for or foster cats/dogs.
K.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
I would just like to update this thread to let you all know that the bill passed, however they changed the pet limit from 4 to 6, and if you have 7 or more you would need to get a hobby permit.

BTW, amassing more animals than you can properly care for is called "hoarding" and I do believe there are laws on the books about that.
post #14 of 16
I have a feeling this is a law that will be on the books in case they need it to take animals that are being neglected. They can't possibly come into every home and do a head count, but if they think something isn't right they have something to fall back on if they feel they need to take animals away because of neglect. Face it, animal neglect laws are hard to enforce, so maybe this is their way of trying to protect them from unresponsible owners permenantly since there will be a limit.

As for rescuers, I'm sure no one is going to separate 6 kittens and a stray mother if they are being well taken care of. If a person is being a foster for a shelter, they will probably be safe as long as the shelter can vouch for them.
post #15 of 16
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They can't possibly come into every home and do a head count,


Yeah, DC would never think of going door-to-door and conducting searches of private citizens' homes. That would be absurd.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031202717.html

I've learned to stop expecting anything approaching legal or sensible behavior from the lunatics who run that city.
post #16 of 16
We have a limit of 4 animals total (cats + dogs). There is no getting a kennel license for more, either. I don't like it personally.

FYI- here it is monitored/regulated through rabies licensing/shots. You are required by the state of Wisconsin to get a rabies shot. The vet sends the info to the county. The county then contacts the city. And if you haven't licensed already, you get a nasty-gram in the mail. Nasty gram also states that if you don't license you will be fined + still have to pay licensing fee. Yeah, that's how I found out about it when I first adopted Raven and Nabu. You wouldn't want to advertise there's a pet limit and licensing required by law ($10/cat btw).

So far rodents/fish/ferrets/bunnies are not regulated.
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