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post #1 of 14
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I just saw this and am not even sure what to think. I'll throw it out to you guys since there are always so many thoughtful insights expressed here.

WALL-E's 'fattist' satire angers fat pride groups
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WALL-E has garnered rave reviews for its satire on consumer culture, in which future humans are depicted as a group of obese gluttons who never leave their padded floating arm chairs.

But one group is not amused - the swelling ranks of fat pride groups, who believe the film propagates anti-obesity hysteria comparable with the quest for the perfect body by the eugenics movement in Nazi Germany.
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As the WALL-E controversy hit the headlines, the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (Naafa) was last week holding its annual convention in Los Angeles, a celebration of so-called "flabulous figures", seminars on fat discrimination, a fat fashion show, podgy pool parties and entertainment from weighty singing group The Fatimas.
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They seek to reclaim the word "fat", dismissing terms like "overweight" and "obese" as morally loaded.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...de-groups.html
post #2 of 14
You know, that's one thing that really gets my goat. So what if you're fat and you don't care? Not many other people care, either. It's great if you have a positive body image, it's so important. But to promote being overweight as a desirable way of life is just irresponsible, and certainly nothing to be proud of. Obesity is a health issue - not an image issue. And this is coming from someone who used to be obese so I'm not soap-boxing from my thin person bandwagon. Before I became so overweight I didn't give it much thought, but I tell you it's nothing to promote or be proud of. In my (humble) opinion, this kind of thing is just denial, and nothing more.
post #3 of 14
I think it is good to help people build self esteem and awareness about the issue but promoting it unhealthy. Obesity causes health problems. I think it is good that overweight people are taking a stand against being second class citizens but there has to be some responsibility there as well.
I used to be overweight due to health issues and it is not a great feeling. People are mean and treat you like you are invisible.
I saw Wall E and the thing I saw was the message that sitting around and not exercising will make you overweight. Obesity is a crisis in this country and children are among its victims but it is a sensitive issue too. I don't think they were making fun.
I don't think making fun of fat people is at all acceptable and fat jokes aren't funny. So I understand the sensitivity and feeling ok about who you are and where your at but the fact remains that obesity is a problem.
post #4 of 14
Fattism!? That is absolutely ridiculous. I am a big woman, trying to lose weight am trying for health reasons. I could care less what other people see when they look at me. These just sound like angry people looking for something to complain about.
post #5 of 14
Oh Come on!!!! Wall-E is a cute movie. I love how people read way too much into things all the time.
post #6 of 14
I thought it was cute too.
Sedentary lifestyle, loads of calories will lead to weight gain. It is a fact. They aren't making it up to be mean. It is true.
post #7 of 14
It's one thing to advocate accepting yourself and other people the way they are, but it's going too far to be offended by a story in a movie!
post #8 of 14
My Dr. gave me 4 years until I would have a heart attack, that was at 260 lbs
Blood lypids were over the top. I was killing myself. My 2nd grandchild was due, and I wanted to see her grow up. I was 42 years old. Lost 100 lbs, and feel much better. Keeping it off is a B****. But so is being dead.
K.
Get healthy, we all worry about what our cats eat & do, how about US.
post #9 of 14
I think it's insensitive to make fun of a person's physical characteristics, but this "fat pride" is just way too much: it's throwing it in your face and asking for a retort.

Maybe I'll start a toe-jam-pride movement. My feet stink and I'm proud of it!! I dare you to say anything offensive about my toe-jam!! We're going to petition Congress for a National Dirty Socks day. Any one caught wearing clean socks on that day will be ostracized from society!!

I think some common sense is in order: recognizing when something is just humor and when it's offensive. Can't we laugh about things any more?
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by coaster
I think some common sense is in order: recognizing when something is just humor and when it's offensive. Can't we laugh about things any more?
No, because it's not politically correct to allow common sense to prevail.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
No, because it's not politically correct to allow common sense to prevail.
there is a major prejudice against overweight/fat/obese people... many people simply assume that EVERYONE who is obese is so because of overeating/sedentary lifestyle. this is true for the majority of obese people - but there are those for whom it is NOT true.
regardless of WHY people are obese, being fat is not a character flaw. it's a physical condition, which may or may not respond to conventional reduction methods.
my problem w/"fattism" is when people assume that, because you're fat, you're also lazy & stupid [& they do assume that latter!] & unable to be a contributing member of society. i've heard remarks, trust me.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
No, because it's not politically correct to allow common sense to prevail.

things that are not PC, and open to be made fun.
Fat people, white men, Christian. put a fat white christian male on any prime time show and there you go the butt of all jokes.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
things that are not PC, and open to be made fun.
Fat people, white men, Christian. put a fat white christian male on any prime time show and there you go the butt of all jokes.
you said it....that we can agree on!!
post #14 of 14
There's nothing wrong with being "fattist"/anti-fat. Or anti-cancer. Or anti-diabetes. That doesn't mean you hate or even dislike the people who are fat, have cancer, or have diabetes.

I know people with cancer. I like them. I certainly don't encourage cancer as some sort of desirable lifestyle.
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