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post #31 of 52
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Relax Skippy, it means different things to different people. No one is crossing the separation between church and state line on this thread.
(The anti-God police can withdraw and regroup now)
post #32 of 52
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Exactly - God doesn't always mean Christianity. But that's not the issue here. 92% of people isn't ALL people. And so having it in there doesn't cover everyone.

And you let me nitpick Cindy. I feel nitpicky today!

You know majority rules. It doesn't mention Christ in the Pledge, Sarah.
Just that pesky three letter word that scares people to death.
post #33 of 52
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Relax Skippy, it means different things to different people. No one is crossing the separation between church and state line on this thread.
(The anti-God police can withdraw and regroup now)
I'm quite relaxed If you have me in the anti-god category, you've misread me entirely though.
post #34 of 52
The word `God' doesn't scare me to death at all.

And if majority rules, Cindy, how would you feel if the majority of Americans were Muslim? Would you be happy to conform, then? Yes it's a hypothetical question, because the majority of American's aren't Muslim - but what if they were?
post #35 of 52
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I would move.
post #36 of 52
Well that's fair enough. Just out of curiosity, would you suggest that as a solution for people like me, who aren't sure of our religious or spiritual position but would prefer for our society to cater for everyone and not just those who are of a certain faith?
post #37 of 52
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I would move.
Interesting

Move to where? Your choices are several Kingdom's, Islamic Theocracies or Secular Societies; or, you could buy an island.
post #38 of 52
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Well that's fair enough. Just out of curiosity, would you suggest that as a solution for people like me, who aren't sure of our religious or spiritual position but would prefer for our society to cater for everyone and not just those who are of a certain faith?
Saying, "Under God" in the pledge doesn't "cater" to anyone.
post #39 of 52
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Saying, "Under God" in the pledge doesn't "cater" to anyone.
But it does discriminate against very many This is not one nation under God, it is a nation under Gods; or not. Except to those that believe God encompasses all, then it becomes something like God as a nation; or something; anyway....
post #40 of 52
Why on earth does it matter what God they are or aren't talking about? It doesn't belong in a pledge to be loyal to a secular country.

That's probably why it wasn't there in the first place.

I, personally, just don't say that part.
post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by KitEKats4Eva! View Post
Well that's fair enough. Just out of curiosity, would you suggest that as a solution for people like me, who aren't sure of our religious or spiritual position but would prefer for our society to cater for everyone and not just those who are of a certain faith?
I suggest that people leave out "under God" if they are offended by it. Even though I'm not religious, I don't care enough to be bothered by the phrase being in there, I still leave it in.
post #42 of 52
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****Off Topic Alert****

To get back on topic.

More people bummed at Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/us...fw&oref=slogin
post #43 of 52
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
****Off Topic Alert****

To get back on topic.

More people bummed at Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/us...fw&oref=slogin
He's probably more interested in winning over former Hillary backers than in keeping far-left supporters.

According to the latest Wahington Post - ABC News poll, people don't seem very concerned about any perceived flip-flopping by either candidate. Maybe both campaign staffs should drop the wearisome accusations thereof.

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Neither candidate has been successfully tagged as a "flip-flopper," at least not more than the other: Forty-nine percent said Obama has been flip-flopping on the issues, while 47 percent said the same about McCain. Asked who has been more consistent on his issue positions, 45 percent said Obama, and 43 percent said McCain. It is unclear how much such charges would hurt: Nearly 8 in 10, 78 percent, said it is more important for a candidate to adjust positions to changing circumstances than to stick to his original stands (18 percent prioritize consistency).
post #44 of 52
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He's probably more interested in winning over former Hillary backers than in keeping far-left supporters.

According to the latest Wahington Post - ABC News poll, people don't seem very concerned about any perceived flip-flopping by either candidate. Maybe both campaign staffs should drop the wearisome accusations thereof.

You are probably right, he only needed them to secure the Democratic nomination, now he can throw them under the bus, they will suck it up I'm sure. And good luck on getting all those Hilary supporters, those women do NOT give up easily.

New website" PUMA = Party Unity My A** (I love it)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-t..._b_111461.html

From the Left's favorite website.
post #45 of 52
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I suggest that people leave out "under God" if they are offended by it.
I agree

In fact, we should also include mention of Mithras. After all, he is the God of Contracts, and a pledge is a contract of sorts. I also think there should be something in there about the Goddess Bast, because I think she's a hotty!

Anyone that doesn't like them, can just leave those parts out.
post #46 of 52
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
I agree

In fact, we should also include mention of Mithras. After all, he is the God of Contracts, and a pledge is a contract of sorts. I also think there should be something in there about the Goddess Bast, because I think she's a hotty!

Anyone that doesn't like them, can just leave those parts out.

Are you immune from the off-topic rule Skippy? Do you have some special dispensation that I am not privy to?

You could start your own thread about the Pledge, I know it is near and dear to your heart.
post #47 of 52
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Are you immune from the off-topic rule Skippy? Do you have some special dispensation that I am not privy to?

You could start your own thread about the Pledge, I know it is near and dear to your heart.
Not at all But I've not yet been told by any Mods that I'm off topic.

Wasn't there something about the pledge and Obama that people were upset about?
post #48 of 52
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Not at all But I've not yet been told by any Mods that I'm off topic.

Wasn't there something about the pledge and Obama that people were upset about?
No, there wasn't. I wasn't aware that forum members are allowed to post off topic until told not to. I thought I read it in the rules.
post #49 of 52
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No, there wasn't. I wasn't aware that forum members are allowed to post off topic until told not to. I thought I read it in the rules.
Sure there was; here it is right here.

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/265357.aspx
post #50 of 52
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Sure there was; here it is right here.

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/265357.aspx
Skippy, not in this thread.

So, what are you saying, that because something is on the internet somewhere, it can be posted on any thread regardless of the subject?
post #51 of 52
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Skippy, not in this thread.

So, what are you saying, that because something is on the internet somewhere, it can be posted on any thread regardless of the subject?
Isn't this about being bummed at Obama?
post #52 of 52
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
That is what it does say. Atheists have taken it much further than that.

Some want to take "Under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance for goodness sake.
Judging by the above post, Cindy, you were the one who brought up the Pledge of Allegiance, and there have been several posts on the subject in this thread.
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